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Sparky
Posted on Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well, in town anyhow.

Tesla showed its new Model S, a 4-door all-electric luxury sedan to the public at its development facility at the SpaceX rocket factory in Hawthorne.

teslas

How enticing:
Looks like a Maserati
Seats seven, 5 adults & 2 kids
17 inch dashboard screen 3G & internet compatible
Standard S performance: 0 to 60 in 5.5 secs
All electric
300 mile range
Fully Rechargeable in 4 hrs, QuickCharge in 45 min
Battery changeout in 5 mins
$49,900

More details here and here.

I could want one.
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Toona
Posted on Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 08:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Does anyone else think it's funny that a guy with the moniker "Sparky" starts a thread about an electric car?

BTW, wishing Tesla best of luck!

Is there a 3rd row seating that I can't see for the 2 kiddo's?
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Midknyte
Posted on Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Those are finally some respectable numbers
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 10:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

4 hrs at 220 volts which is doable with house power. I read 440 volt charging will be available. That's an odd voltage, even for a commercial application.
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86129squids
Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 12:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Imagine a targa top or convertible, running Deal's Gap- silently.

Except for the relentless howl of the tires whilst drifting thru each turn.

GIMME!
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Who ever invents a "forever" battery will be rich. The 7 year life just doesn't get it for long term...........let alone,what is the disposal fee on 1,200 pounds of batteries. That could be a shocker!
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Unibear12r
Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No it's not Ferris.
440 is the lower voltage system of the nominal 460 volt equipment nameplate rating and is a Delta transformer connection. The 460 equipment rating is there to be within 10% of both 440 & 480 and show that it's use able for both voltages. 440/240 is still common in many industrial systems. 480/277 is a Wye transformer connection and became popular for commercial applications (and now much more so for industrial) because it provides three single phase legs (277vac) instead of just two (for a Delta,240vac) that are mainly used for lighting.
The same relationship exist for the lower voltage series of 120/208 Wye and 120/240 & 440/220 Delta connections with the nominal nameplate rating of 230vac but it has been only recently that the majority of the 230vac rated motors have been able to operate on 208vac without burning up.
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86129squids
Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 01:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

GEEK!
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Unibear12r
Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 03:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

True.
But that's a funny statement considering the subject of this thread!


(Message edited by unibear12r on March 29, 2009)
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Unibear12r
Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 03:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's a very nice looking vehicle with good stats but I would prefer it to have the on board recharge ability of the Chevy Volt for long distance travel too.
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 04:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I see brown outs.....blacks outs after the football games.
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Corporatemonkey
Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 04:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Tesla S is going to come standard with a 160 mile battery, with a 300 mile version available.

The battery itself is easily removed, and recycled.

From what I understand when you initially buy the car you get your first battery pack, at anytime you can lease/rent a replacement or a temporary larger pack for longer journeys.

If they can swing the DOE grant this week, this will be a game changer in the auto business.

I personally know 2 people who are twitching with deposit money to burn.
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Sparky
Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 05:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Toona, I get that all the time, although personally, I'm hoping for the equivalent 2-wheel topic of interest to be big news!: )

So, why can't they come up with a new fangled sci-fi electric transportation system that provides real-time charging while underway in a vehicle? It wouldn't have to be tied to a pantograph system but could be setup to charge batteries while stopped at signals or magnetically linked through transducers in the roadway. Gene Roddenberry, where are you when we need you now?
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ferris von B.

For YOU those are odd voltages, for most of the rest of the civilized world, they're pretty standard.
220-240v single phase & 420-450v triple phase are the norm in Europe & Scandinavia.
I expect Court could give you more info on this as it used to be his business.
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Unibear12r
Posted on Sunday, March 29, 2009 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sparky, about ten years or so ago some people tried to pick up an induced voltage from a road way to a moving vehicle. The test program ran for a while and then just faded away. My guess is that it didn't function reliable enough.
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