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Lake_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's right....a 1993 Paramount bicycle. I found this for sale on ebay. I wish I had the time and money to invest in this little corner of Buell history. Very cool design collaboration between Schwinn and Buell.

"Buell Bicycle
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Thunder
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 08:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I bought my SASS Paramount/Buell in 1992. The frameset & rockshock alone was $1500.00. I had mine built with Campagnolo group-o components.

I will not part with mine and I'm curious what he may be trying to get for it. Mountain bikes for the most part don't bring much for resale.

This was the 1st full suspension Mtn bike ever produced!!

There were no more than 250 made, I think the Schwinn dealers sold a few more than 200. Most were raced and a few were purchased by collectors.

Definitely Cool stuff!!


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S2rider
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If anyone else wants one of these. I'd consider selling mine. Make me an offer via P/M.

In fairness to BuellieDan, not until after his auction is over.

Randell
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Ferris
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hello Randell : )

FB
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S2rider
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Howdy Ferris,

How's the world treating ya these days?

Want some snow? We got plenty. I'll send ya some if ya want. : )

Randell
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Bads1
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The cranks,Derailers are not XTR and are not original.I wonder what he means by the company he worked for was servicing the paint line???One of my best friends was the guy that painted all of the BUELL framesets.And another guy that I went to school with did all the welding.
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S2rider
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

While I can't speak for Dan's bike, I know that the guy who did all the painting originally repainted mine to original specs about a year and a half ago.

I took this picture of mine about 30 seconds ago. : )
Buell bike standing in the corner


Randell
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S2rider
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dang, I just realized that Buelliedan is not the seller, he is the high bidder. Sorry Dan, I thought you were the seller.

In light of that, anyone know the seller? : )

Most parts on the bike on e-bay are like mine, but the decal on the frame is different. Mine says Waterford bike, not Paramont.
Also mine has Buell American Cycles, Mukwanago, Wi. on the lower run of the swingarm.

I'll check with the guys at Buell who worked for Waterford at the time to see if bikes were done both ways during production.

Randell


Bike pics

hydraulic front brake

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Josh_
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Love the profile Randell.
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Bads1
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 12:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Randall your bike was originally painted by a friend of mine named David Neu.The guy that did the welding for the framesets name was Cameron Towers.Check it out if you like.At the 2001 homecoming Erik and Dave ran into one another and they talked for quite some time about the bikes at Ukes during the send off party.Dave or Cameron I'd have to say haven't worked there since 94 I would say.In the Knowledge vault under the BUELL history thread I posted a pic of the proto type getting hauled off on a stretcher because it snapped at the head tube.24HRS later that bike was due at Schwinn's headquarters in Chicago.They had to make another frameset and paint it on time.
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Bads1
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 12:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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S2rider
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 12:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Dana,

All I know is what the guy told me. As soon as he saw the bike a huge grin crossed his face and he said he painted it the first time around. I didn't get his name. I know Chris who works at Buell now, and worked for Waterford then, also told me this guy did the paint way back then.

I'm sure there probably was more than one painter there at the time.

I also got a chance to talk with the guys who worked with Erik on the project at the time. Cool guys that had several stories to tell about the project. Very interesting stuff for sure.


I think you bring up some interesting points about the bike. I'm a little worried Dan may be bidding on something that is not as original as presented. I suppose it is not impossible that they "customized" it before it was delivered. I hope he is sure, before he makes the deal.

Randell
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S2rider
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 12:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

HAHAHAHA the guy on the far right in that picture, Kelly, does electrical design work on Buells today. : )
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 05:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Quite interesting.

I think there were a number of cosmetic treatments and uniformity was consistent with Buell Motorcycles of the day.

I went to Mukwonago to get mine.

I went to Shawnee, KS to get a handful of the 11"17" brochures touting the "American Design Genius" so I could tanut someone.

I'm sitting in my office one day in Topeka, KS when a large package arrives in the mail with all the leftover paperwork that was going to be tossed from the building on Jefferson Street.

A most interesting project.

I won't sell mine. I have the cancelled check written to Erik Buell.
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 08:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Red Star monitor

Gotta love it.

A year or three ago there was talk of some original Buell/Paramount bicycles still in boxes that could still be had. Though the price was well beyond my means at the time. I'm still hoping to find one at an unaware rummage sale one day.

MikeJ
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Bads1
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 09:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pictured from left to right is Cameron Towers(welder),the kid on the bike was to what I understand a shop grunt,did whatever around the shop.But what he can say is that he broke the first BUELL bike in existance,My Buddy David Neu (painter),and Kelly Gamble at the time he came from TREK as a engineer to work on the BUELL bike line.That photo above I have to return to Dave.Glad this reminded me.BTW he also said there was about 4 to 5 framesets that were painted red and were painted in the same way the others were.Has anyone seen a red one???

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Ferris
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 09:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Howdy Ferris,
How's the world treating ya these days?
Want some snow?


very well, thank you. : )
and
NO, thank you. : )
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Dullorb
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am a little leery of the payment terms. At least PayPal offers some protection.
Nice bike, wish I could get it.
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, the 24 hour pay in full detail is a bit off, coupled with the seller's zero feedback and only being a few months old on ebay lends one to be a little cautious. But the seller(s) lists the location in Texas, so if a Texan wins the bidding and is within 24 hours driving range they could just pick up the bike in person, and if so they've probably already emailed the seller to discuss these options.
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