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Court
Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We have any here?
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Hosephnj
Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You mean like Green building? I took the beginer course but I am an electrical contractor and not an architect. I heard its a really hard test. If thats what your asking.
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Skinstains
Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 01:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I put a hoist on a green building in Hoboken.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm an electrical contractor too . . .but figured it would be a good thing to have so I'm glad to have it out of the way.

The toughest part of it was that it's just not intuitive. When I sat for exams like my pilots license and my California C-31 license, you could study ahead, sit in the exam and easily ace it. This thing required pure memorization so I spent 4-14 hour days locked in the bowels of Butler reading and rereading several thousands pages of technical data.

The funny part is that (and they basically strip you to jeans and shirt and put everything else in a locker before you go in, put the hearing muffs on and sit there being videotaped) the test people have a cute sense of humor . . . I got through and it pops up and asks "would you like to take a short survey". I almost blurted out . . . "Hell no, I want my results!".

I can help but think this stuff is going to make it's way to power plants and power lines and March 31st is the last day for the current test. The new criteria will require 2 tests and something like a year or two documented full time employment on a LEED project. Hopefully this, along with my various safety and NYC DOB (the toughest ones to get) licenses will be a good thing if I ever decide to get a real job.

: )
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Wags
Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I scored a 185 a few months back. I'm glad it's over. Every question is like a "trick question" with more than one possible answer. All the Civil Engineers and EIT's in our office have passed it.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>Every question is like a "trick question" with more than one possible answer.

I'd agree. Each and every question requires REALLY close reading.

Just seemed like a good thing to have and in one of the engineering classes I am enrolled in at Columbia the LEED test was our mid-term on Monday night. I figured "hey, as long as I am studying for it, why not schedule the test the following day".

Certainly can't hurt in construction.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was LEED certified ~5 years ago. I've reviewed a lot of construction plans/specs with LEED ratings in mind.

The Navy talked big about going with LEED ratings on buildings. Of course the LEED people say going green doesn't have to add to the construction cost. In reality, it was always the opposite. Cost estimate over budget- what can we do to fix it? - cut out this LEED crap. IIRC we built one building that was "bronze" certified (the lowest rating available at the time); a fitness center at NAS New Orleans. The A/E firm had to really pull some stuff out of their butts to make even the bronze rating. One thing I remember was getting one point for "ventilating a space containing hazardous chemicals" (something like that). They put in a fan in a janitor's closet and claimed that point to JUST make the bronze rating.
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Rkc00
Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The engineering office I work at just finished the first US Post office Leeds building Last year. It is under construction right now in Southampton, NY. I did the structural design and the other guys in the office did the MEP design.
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Maddiemsu
Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 05:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I will be taking it before it changes over later this month. Not looking forward to the memorization but it has to be done.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I **think** March 31st is the deadline. I sent some of my classmates, who either failed the first time or haven't taken it yet, some of my notes today. If you'd like a copy, drop me a note.
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Maddiemsu
Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not only is this something that the whole industry is going to, at my company this year it is the only way to get a pay increase. An extra 100 a week is well worth the studying that is required. I won't go into my personal feeling about LEED but it is here to stay for awhile.

Court pm sent .
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>Court pm sent .

Enough info sent to keep you busy and off the streets for a couple weeks.

Good luck!
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Hosephnj
Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2009 - 03:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Im all about green building but I dont think I can make the march 31rst deadline. I need to get my paperwork together to take my contractors and inspectors exams first.

I guess ill just stick to installing the stuff and selling it. Im going to see a local board of ed administrator about implementing the Lutron eco system in the schools and offices.Hopefully I can at least talk him into doing a classroom or two, maybe one whole school this year.
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Court
Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2009 - 09:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>Im all about green building but I don't think I can make the march 31st deadline.

It might be prudent to try to as the new testing protocol is going to be much more difficult. About 34% who sit for the test pass it at this time, it is predicted that this number will move closer to 20%.

The new credential requirements will require TWO tests (LEED and a specialty practice) as well as actual experience on a LEED project (one or two years, I don't recall).

I wanted to get it out of the way since I work for one of the largest publicly held utilities and with 15,000 employees I don't think anyone else in the company has passed the test and we have $7B of construction on tap through 2028 and I'm betting that LEED will become a requirement (having a LEED AP on the project) in the near future.

If you decide to sign up before March 31st (have to take the test prior to June 30th or something) let me know and I can share my study material. I had about 2,500 page of crud in 2 notebooks but culled it to two sample tests and the V2.2 book. Let me know if I can help.


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GBCI's New Tiered Credentialing System
Q: What is the difference between the current exam system and the new tiered system moving forward?
A: There are three differences between the current exam system and the new tiered system:

There will be three tiers of excellence for a professional to pursue. This improves upon the current exam system by providing a mechanism to recognize knowledge and expertise beyond a basic understanding of green building practices. A tiered credentialing system allows the marketplace to distinguish among practitioners with fundamental, advanced, and extraordinary levels of knowledge.
There are eligibility requirements for all tiers of the new system.
There are credentialing maintenance requirements for all tiers of the new system. As sustainable technologies advance and the LEED Rating System evolves, LEED credentialing needs a mechanism to ensure that LEED Professionals have the latest knowledge and understanding of green building practices.
Q: What is the timeline for introducing the new tiered system?
A: The changes will be phased in throughout 2009 starting with the LEED Green Associate Exam and the LEED AP+ Operations & Maintenance exams, which will be launched in May 2009. (Please see timeline below.)

FEBRUARY 2009
LEED Green Associate Exam - Beta Test (application is now closed)
LEED AP+ Operations & Maintenance Exam - Beta Test (application is now closed)

MARCH 2009
LEED AP+ Homes Exam - Beta Test (application is now closed)
LEED AP New Construction v2.2 – Registration Deadline
LEED AP Commercial Interiors v2.0 – Registration Deadline

SPRING 2009
LEED Green Associate Exam – Launch (May)
LEED AP+ Operations & Maintenance Exam – Launch (May)
LEED AP+ Building Design & Construction Exam – Beta Test
LEED AP+ Interior Design & Construction Exam - Beta Test
New Candidate Application Available

SUMMER 2009
LEED AP+ Homes Exam - Launch
LEED AP+ Building Design & Construction - Launch
LEED AP+ Interior Design & Construction - Launch
New Credentialing Maintenance Program – Launch

2010
LEED AP+ Neighborhood Development

Visit www.gbci.org for announcements and updates.




More info HERE
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2009 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My understanding is there will be a credentialing maintenance requirement, in order to maintain accreditation.
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Court
Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2009 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You are correct. I, to take my newly acquired LEED AP to a LEED AP+ must agree to and sign the disciplinary standards and do 20 CEU's before 2011


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Q: How do I fit into the new system as a current LEED AP?

A: “Legacy” LEED AP: Thousands of LEED APs who pioneered the green building field may continue to bear the
credential as a legacy with inactive status.

To gain active status, they must choose to opt into the new system.
LEED APs who elect to opt in to the new credentialing system should note the following:

Beginning in June 2009, current LEED APs have two years to opt in. For example, if you choose to opt in
December of 2009, you will have until December 31, 2011 to complete you required hours of credential
maintenance.

Opt-in requires signing the disciplinary policy and agreeing to credential maintenance. You will get to use
the new LEED AP+ designation and be listed in the active registry.




http://www.usgbccolorado.com/documents/LEEDCredent ialingFAQ.pdf

http://www.gbci.org/DisplayPage.aspx?CMSPageID=84}
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12x9sl
Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2009 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I agree LEED seems here to stay. However, I don't like it. I'm not against green building, but like has been mentioned already, it is not cheaper to do. The other thing is the end product is not necessarily as good, say nothing about better. The new school we did this past summer, the janitor told me a couple of months ago that the paint was coming off the walls. There is definitely a lack of quality green products. And don't even get me started on bamboo being a green product.

Rant off.
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Hosephnj
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

OK I mean dollar for dollar it costs more but depending on the system and products used the technology pays for itself. The products in the electrical field are very interesting to me. Daylight harvesting, and occupancy sensing are some of the most cost effective systems out and I dont think the up front costs should deter anyone from using them.

Court I am going to look into singing up for the test if I have till the end of june. Ill let you know if,when I can use your help.Thanks.

Kinda scares me setting myself up for three major steps in my life for this year. I think the next contractors exam is in october. Plenty of time.......If my head doesnt explode first...
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 06:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The LEED thing is here to stay. Trust me, those of us in the power plant business were sorry to see sulfur emissions regulated 25 years ago but it's here to stay too.

I'd suggest, but I'm weird that way, getting all the qualifications you can. I sat for my California Contractor's license exam the day of the Sacramento Mile . . .talk about pressure!

In terms of the "it's here to stay" . . . . I recall when there were rumors of the feds getting into the safety business . . . this was taken by my partner the year prior to OSHA. Yeah, I've still got the ones from when I used to shinny out the wire over canyons and put on orange aviation balls.

: )

I'm REALLY getting old!

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