| Author | Message | ||
     Ochoa0042 |
youtube has been cracking down on 'unlicenced music' on several videos.. check out my page in my badweb profile, several videos on my page have been muted by youtube. WHAT'S GOIN' ON WITH YOUTUBE, THIS B/S HAS TO STOP ! ! !  | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Self preservation. As a host of videos utilizing unlicensed music, they can be held liable for copyright infringement and fined. | ||
| Boney95 |
F yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  | ||
| Sparky |
I'm really upset. It's more pervasive than youtube. My favorite internet college radio show "A Day at the Beach" on KCR San Diego State University every Thursday from 4 pm to 6 has temporarily suspended its online streaming radio broadcast because of a certain non-compliance issue with not providing real-time info identifying the artist, song title, album while the song is playing. WTF? Get this: they still broadcast on local cable TV music channels and through the airwaves, but cannot on the internet. I just don't understand why one type of broadcast is OK and the other type is not. We need less governmental bureaucratic meddling!  Ha Ha mental. Yeah, that's it. They're trying to mess with my head. | ||
| Corporatemonkey |
We need less governmental bureaucratic meddling! It is not really the government doing this, it is the copyrights holders that are attempting to protect their property. The music industry is fighting for its life, and except for services like iTunes they have no clue how to survive. Thanks to NBC (Hulu.com) the television industry is attempted to get ahead of their looming problem. So far they are doing it quite successfully. | ||
| Slaughter |
Yeah - the websites are vulnerable to bean beaten up by lawyers if they knowingly allow copyright violations. I know a racer on the WSMC racing board who re-posted after his vid with RUSH YYZ was silenced, he replaced it with a piece of public domain legal music and it was funnier than sh*t. -Originally he had Rush's YYZ but thought he'd post the following instead (on April Fools day to boot)... the music is approved: (Message edited by slaughter on February 17, 2009) (Message edited by slaughter on February 17, 2009) | ||
| Slaughter |
You also need to realize that just because somebody "doesn't need" or "isn't using" their property in your opinion, doesn't mean you have all rights to it. If you think that's the case, I'd bet there are LOTS of times when your wife or girlfriend is home alone and available for use... and as long as we have her consent, you shouldn't have a problem. While we're at it, Where do you leave the keys to your bike? (Message edited by slaughter on February 17, 2009) | ||
| B00stzx3 |
Just repost. If not, use music thats not from RIAA friendly labels (the big ones!). Plenty of good "underground" music thats surprisingly mainstream. I don't see a problem as long as your not making money off of it. I'm sure the underground musicians would love the exposure. | ||
| Danger_dave |
I'm glad You Tube are enforcing their rules. I use rather ordinary music that I make myself - because I respect other artists copyright - and because I agree to the terms of service when I upload. | ||
| Ochoa0042 |
D_dave, has a case of granular vagititus  Just repost tried that, nothing Where do you leave the keys to your bike? huh....  Honestly what are they protecting? There are ways for you do download videos off of youtube, but then you have a video with encoded music.. Now I dont know how many of y'all know how to extract the music from the video, but I bet its slim to none. If WMG is having this B/S argument because they're afraid this is how their music is being stolen; they're not too bright in the noggin, Im sure youtube will be the last place anyone will look to download a song. Too add, even if you got it from youtube, the sound quality of the music is not good. WMG needs to hit puberty because this is childish bullshat | ||
| Just_ziptab |
Who pays the bills for YouTube? I've never spent a dime there or clicked on anything,other than vids........damned great free entertainment. What sucks is some great old cartoons from the 40's being removed for "copyright"..when you can't buy a copy from anybody, anywhere.....yet other great old cartoons stay there ........  | ||
| Ochoa0042 |
ever heard of porntube, thats youtubes' older brother who lives in the basement  | ||
| Oddball |
Moves like that encourage me to not buy any music in any form from those companies and their artists. | ||
| Danger_dave |
>>D_dave, has a case of granular vagititus<< Maybe - I always play by the rules and till now it's been a disadvantage, but more just a case of 'do unto others'. I hate having my stuff used without permission. I won't do it to other artists. I have one 5 second grab from 'King of the Road' which I believe is 'fair use' apart from that it's all original. It's not nearly as good a result, but they don't get yanked and I'm more comfortable with it. | ||
| Danger_dave |
It's working OK too. dangerdavenz Videos Watched: 9,140 Videos Uploaded: 48 Video Views: 519,272 Favorites: 23 Channel Type: Channel Views: 6,254 Subscribers: 77 | ||
| Slaughter |
I don't know about some folks but I think honoring other people's work is a good thing REGARDLESS of how much you think you "need" it to use on your own terms. Maybe having been ripped off in other areas of intellectual property, I'm a bit thin-skinned about this whole "I WANT IT - THEREFORE IT'S MINE TO USE AS I WISH" thing. (Message edited by slaughter on February 17, 2009) | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
There have always been opportunities to infringe upon musical copyrights. It's just that now the quality of duplication is so good and the medium for holding copied music so numerous that they are having to actually track down and combat infringement where previously they allowed it do exist and didn't do much about it. Back in the old days, you could only get pirated music if you were fast enough on the record button to snatch it off the radio. That jerk on the station kept talking over your favorite song. I hated that guy. | ||
| Ochoa0042 |
on most of my own videos.. I do say what song is on there.... and the ones that arnt my videos, I say what user it came from.... wouldnt that be enough? | ||
| Slaughter |
Copyright infringement is as simple as "copy and paste." Yes, its MUCH more common with computers and the internet. It has been very common in the manufacturing industry - especially now with the "DEMAND" for cost-effective production of STUFF that consumers "NEED" and add in the eagerness of overseas manufacturers to disregard our intellectual property (patent and copyright) laws... but hey, folks NEED their stuff... | ||
| Froggy |
Not unless the owner states that it is enough. I am free and open with my photos, I don't care if you use them, just give me credit. Then again my photography sucks and any exposure is good exposure. Many companies have to pay huge royalty fees to use a song in commercials and other media. It is not fair to Best Buy that they just shelled out 500 grand to get a 15 second clip in a commercial, and then some kid on youtube has the whole thing uncut without paying a dime. | ||
| Danger_dave |
>>wouldnt that be enough?<, Probably - if there weren't lawyers involved. | ||
| Danger_dave |
>>photography sucks and any exposure is good exposure. << Nice pun! | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
The problem is that one person buys the CD or downloads the song. They then load it onto Limewire and now 15M people download it. That's 15M opportunities NOT to make money. When you recorded a song off the radio, how many copies did you really make and pass out? My girlfriend made me a "mix" tape. Other than that, I don't think I'd ever had another person pass me a pirated copy. | ||
| Froggy |
Hah I didn't even notice. | ||
| Iamike |
I leave my keys in my bikes in the garage. I figure if they survive my dog, they earned a ride. I guess a lawyer could be a metaphorical dog. | ||
| Old_man |
I checked my list of favorites and found several have been removed. I have these tunes on the original CDs. The visuals added were nice. But, I won't complain, I fully understand. I have a huge music collection. Probably over 4000 CDs. I paid for all of them. | ||
| Littlebuggles |
Funny about youtube, I use that and pandora to find new music, if I like it I go out to buy an album. Maybe some would rather cheat and rip the music and all, but if I listen to it in the 'puter I'd like to be able to listen in my car, or on the stereo at home, or load it to my mp3... ...am I technologically challenged? Do the masses know how to rip the audio from these vids and spread it around to all their buds to ruin the careers of the big music names? I understand and respect intellectual property, copyright laws and all that, but in my case they are loosing exposure that would sell music. | ||
| Bill0351 |
I never really understood the way the owners of intellectual property work to get things removed from Youtube. I think they are shooting themselves in the foot. Here is the process that my daughter follows. It is the same process most of her friends follow. #1 She goes to Yahoo Answers or some other similar site and asks what new stuff people are listening to. #2 She goes on Youtube to see if she likes the band and the sound. #3 She starts hassling me to get her the music. #4 I eventually give in, and she gets the music. In a lot of ways, Youtube is just a ton if free advertising. Limewire is a totally different deal, and I understand them fighting that. I just don't get the reasoning behind the Youtube issue, at least in most situations. | ||
| Edgydrifter |
Even Limewire has it's place. I've used it and similar programs in the past. I'd type in some random word--say "orange" for instance and download everything that came up with orange in the song title or artist's name. I'd spend a few days going through all the stuff I harvested. If I heard something I liked, I'd go out and buy the album it came from. Everything else got dumped to make room for my next random search. I haven't used any of these programs in about a year, and (no surprise) I also haven't bought a single album in that time. Yes, it's only a sample of one, but I think there are enough people like me out there that rigid copyright enforcement online may ultimately harm the artists being protected, particularly lesser-known ones. | ||
| Froggy |
Bill0351, your daughter can do that just fine. Most artists have a youtube channel and several official videos up. No worry about horrible quality MTV rips or songs that cut off. |
