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B00stzx3
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Its the digital age. maybe downloading/pirating is wrong, but its gonna continue to happen. Itunes is a big hit, It'd be wise for all companies trying to compete and stay relavent in 2009 to follow a similar model. People will download, getting them to pay is a different story. As far as youtube goes, thats ridiculous. The quality on there is sub-par at best, and its free advertising. Some people are using rippers to rip music/movies from youtube, but the quality sucks.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The issue is re-broadcasting it.
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Old_man
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I recently heard a report that the record companies want to be able to charge radio for the right to play their music.

How stupid can they be?
Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Remember the outrage when they paid radio to play their music?
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Bill0351
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"I recently heard a report that the record companies want to be able to charge radio for the right to play their music."

Hasn't ASCAP been doing that for nearly a century?
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes the have been charging radio for a billion years now. It is a fraction of a cent per listener per song. They recently came down on internet streaming radio and increased the rates for them.
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Slaughter
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ASCAP/BMI get a take from any establishment that uses music covered by copyright. If the place has a juke box, they just get a take of the coin... otherwise it's some kind of monthly/yearly payment on a sliding scale. I'm working from memory and since I really DO NOT violate intellectual property laws, I'm not worried but there IS a good discussion on these issues on ASCAP's website for those who DO plan on posting/reproducing/distributing copyrighted materials:

http://www.ascap.com/
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Davegess
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If we all stop paying for creative stuff like movies, music, magazines, books etc the people who create the good ones will take up some other line of work and we all be able to download all the crap we want for free; just wont be any really good stuff to enjoy.
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Edgydrifter
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In college I paid the bills working at a small shop. We had a stereo there behind the counter, on which we'd play CDs to keep boredom at bay while stocking the shelves or reconciling the credit card receipts. I was present on two occasions when a trenchcoated goon from the RIAA came in to shake us down for royalties. Seems our playing CDs constituted a "public performance" because other people in the store might hear the music. Both times, our boss told this guy to get bent and escorted him from the store by the arm. She was a great gal.
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Old_man
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If radio stopped playing their music, they would all be out of work soon.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I stopped listening to the radio 5 years ago.

Just duplicated their playlists on MP3 and did away with ads, DJs and news.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Or you could get XM radio, its cheaper than buying MP3s, and their play lists are better than what I would play. Also commercial free music is a bonus.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

$US1 for an MP3 doesn't bother me - it's portable (I have 4 iPods) - and at least the artist sees some of it.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It will cost over $20k to fill a typical ipod, and XM still pays the royalties anyway when stuff plays. Oh and your Ipod can't play something that you don't have : )
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Danger_dave
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It does play all I want however.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 09:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Current playlist is 203 songs.
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Corporatemonkey
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 02:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They recently came down on internet streaming radio and increased the rates for them.

Last I heard because of the new "internet rates" Pandora is paying upwards of $4 million a month in royalties.

If you break it down per listener, it is several times more than XM, or terrestrial radio pays.

Talk about biting your own hand off.


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Danger_dave
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 03:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah - that's all getting screwy - Converting from CD to MP3 probably constitutes some breach too.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 07:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use youtube as a sampler like most people I know, see what it's about, if it's my thing i'll go buy the cd then load it on the puter so I can convert it to mp3 & load it onto a mp3 player or a jukebox mp3 cd.
I also use Limewire sometimes but to download stuff I already have on vinyl or cassette, I figure I've already payed the artist's intellectual property rights.
I used to use Pandora, which I thought was absolutely terrific, til they blocked me because my ip address isn't in the US, pooh on them I say!
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you tube is the last bastion of being able to get 80s music videos...
I want my MTV back
(keep that reality tv, docudrama, teen soaps, Made, Wild& OUt, Punked, and any other programming to your flippin self)
I miss being able to turn it on at any time and have mindless loud hair bands screaming the 80's anthems.

really it was MTv that brought down the Berlin wall ; )
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