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Deadduck
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 12:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is the second appointee by Obama with tax issues, why do they get away with it and any of us would be sitting in prison trying to declaring it was an honest mistake. Makes me sick! also makes me wonder how many of the ones that are so eager to raise my taxes are continuing to skip out on theirs......transparency my arse!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090131/ap_on_go_pr_wh /daschle_taxes/print

WASHINGTON – Former Sen. Tom Daschle, picked by President Barack Obama to lead his health reform efforts, recently filed amended tax returns to report $128,203 in back taxes and $11,964 in interest, according to a Senate document obtained by The Associated Press.
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Court
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 07:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bottom of the barrel.
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 08:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Bush_ad ministration_scandals

Got a long way to go to even come close to bottom of the barrel.
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Slaughter
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 08:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey people - it is NOT "the other guys" with ethical problems - it is US. WE are responsible for allowing people like these on both sides of the aisle to get power and to retain it.

Nothing new.

Ethical issues in politics? Financial issues? Republican? Democrat?... incependent? probably the only party without ethical issues is the party NOT in power (let's give the Bull Moose party a chance once again)

Nobody has an exclusive claim to "THE PARTY OF Ethical/Financial lapses" and WE are the ones to blame - ALL parties; all of us.

Spend some time looking up/reading history. Look INSIDE yourselves for responsibility -
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Id pay my damn fair share taxes if you want to fork over some of that 891 Billion to me directly.
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Buellatp
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We need a REVOLUTION.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bush's list of supposed scandals
* Halliburton's Corruption
* Iraq's Decline
* Abu Ghraib Prison Torture
* CIA Pre-9/11 Intelligence Failures
* HHS Deceptive Ad Campaign
* HHS Scully Scandal
* Government-wide Accounting Problems
* Sex Education Misinformation
* CAPPS II Failures
* Real Costs of the Iraq War


Glancing at that list, some of those are policy disagreements - NOT scandals. Not paying your taxes is a crime , if done intentionally. Big difference.
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Court
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm laughing at Obama's silly saber rattling with the Wall Street folks . . . I suspect he's just beginning to get his first lesson in how little he has to do with the economy . . . . . giving away a free lunch does not a stimulus make.

Let's see . . . . we got Gitmo (even though we have no idea what to do with the folks), we've kissed up to the trial lawyers on Tuesday and blown smoke up the ass of the unions on Friday, told corporations "now is not the time to make a profit" (i blew coffee out my nose on that one . . wonder if Bill Gates got the memo?) . . . whew . . . what a week. . . I'm ready for that cheeseburger with Dijon mustard.

: )

A gaggle of idiots.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wow, Sprink.

Way to pull up a really recent and biased source. The most recent reference is from January 2005.

The only indictment and conviction in the Bush Administration was Scooter Libby, and that was a witch hunt.


It's one thing to sling unproven and unsubstantiated claims of fraud and corruption. It's another to actually get a conviction.

If there were a convictable offense, you can bet your balls Pelosi would have pressed for it.
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Slaughter
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My response to people posting their "damning evidence" is always the same: get the "evidence" to the authorities on the OTHER side, they'd love to be able to prosecute.
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Iamike
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

After reading an article about Obama closing Gitmo there was an online poll. After answering that I thought it was wrong to close it the polls showed 72% (about 1,500 votes) against closing. I wonder if the new administration would pay any attention to the will of the people.

It's obvious they have already ignored the ethics issues.
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Teeps
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is this what we have to look forward to?
It's starting to look more like this:

2010 Was Not a Good Year to Be President
http://www.chronwatch-america.com/articles/3204/1/ 2010-Was-Not-a-Good-Year-to-Be-President/Page1.htm l


Here is the closing comment for the article:
(Far fetched? We are likely to find out, if we continue to be unaware of the issues and vote with our \white
{emotions} rather than be studious in our approach to electing our ''public officials.'')
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Republicans finished the war on Islamic fundamentalists, largely by aiming ICBM's at Mecca and Medina.

LOL
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hey bastard, just because it's a few years old, doesn't make it right or diminish it. I can't wait till those pricks go to prison, where they all belong. Breaking my 2009 resolution again. Bye.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Put your money where you mouth is and PROVE the allegations in COURT.

If there is in fact crimes, I'll help you build the gallows.

Otherwise, there is nothing there but partisan BS.

Conversely, I am looking forward to convicting the current gangs on ACTUAL crimes. So far, we have to convictable tax evaders. Add to that Charlie Rangel, and we aren't even out of the first month of the new administration.
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Court
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's mostly partisan BS . . frankly, if Bill and Hillary couldn't be convicted, everyone else is safe.

The one that confounds me, and I confess I haven;t followed it closely, is this goof ball hair model they just tossed in Illinois.

I listened to the tapes they've been playing and the guy may be stupid (seems like a condition precedent for politics) but I've yet to hear anything that sounds like a crime.

I'm betting, that post election - pre inaugural one of those tapes had something like "well Barack will meet with you and work the price out" and someone sprang the trap early to keep from having to indict a President.

Something about the whole thing just stinks . . . . . anybody seen anything that looks like a crime?
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The intent to solicit, cuz never collected any money. besides politicians have been paying to get into office as long as there have been campaigns.
Its not like the vacant seat was responsible to the public in any real sense of a representative government any how.
This country has be owned an operated by lawyers and special interest groups for so long, noone should be surprised at the results we get; reguardless of who is sitting behind the desk of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
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Lightstick
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 04:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



(Message edited by Lightstick on January 31, 2009)
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Davegess
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You guys are amazing. Two weeks and you are ready to call a failure. The last guy buried us in an impossible war, watched the economy tank worse than anytime in the last 80 years, I could go on; and the new guy is an idiot????

Please!

If anyone has a better plan for preventing a second great depression let's hear it. And don't give me the cut taxes routine, this plan has some tax cuts BUT tax cuts are not nearly as stimulative as making stuff. The tax cut would have to be 30% larger than this plan to have the same effect.

All we can really do is wait and see, if we are not seeing signs of relief in 6 months I am betting Obama will change direction and use the money in a different way. The first attempt by Bush has been a pretty dismal failure, bailing out the banks is preventing a total collapse but it has done freed up money like it was suppose to.

So far Plan A has shown a very limited effect so we are now on Plan B. Let's hope we don't need to go to Plan C.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm not an economist, but I wish whatever solution the Democrats unilaterally force upon us wouldn't involve selling my children into economic slavery.

I will say one thing that Obama has already accomplished that I thought was impossible... he made Bush look like a fiscal conservative! ; )
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Brumbear
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

find me one politician who is clean
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Danny_h__jesternut
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll give you change! Throw all the carear policto bumbs out. Elect me supream emporer and I shall promis not one, not two but THREE Buell Motorcycles in every garage. If you don't have a garage we'll get you one. Any one cought chopping an old tuber shall suffer the same fate: chop HIH and sell of his partz.
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Dynasport
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am very confused. I thought the parties had worked things out and the Republicans had agreed to concentrate their efforts on financial scandals and the Democrats were going to focus on sex scandals. But now the Democrats seem to be horning in on the money scandals. Maybe they are just trying to be bipartisan.
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Ducxl
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I suspect he's just beginning to get his first lesson in how little he has to do with the economy

HEY! He's the President.If he orders executions of those corrupt Wall St. types' i'll support him.

I've lost TENS of thousands in my IRA this year and they're giving bonuses while i suffer?

What was it that Putin did to the oil exec.?


(Message edited by ducxl on January 31, 2009)
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Crusty
Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If he orders executions of those corrupt Wall St. types' i'll support him.

+1
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Davegess
Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2009 - 12:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Court
Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2009 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>>If he orders executions of those corrupt Wall St. types' I’ll support him.


Part of the problem is that he has, beyond media chest puffing, zero control over the folks on Wall Street, of on Juneau Avenue, who are making multi-million dollar bonuses.

Like it or not no $400,000 government employee is going to interfere in their business.

Be mindful that it was the government who, when banks refused to give mortgages to folks who should not have had them, came back and forced them to under the Community Reinvestment Act. . . thank the federal government for the "no down payment", "100% financing", "no credit check" and "anyone financed" chicanery.

If we were punishing those responsible Nancy Pelosi would already be in the can.

Frankly, I think the guy making $35,000 a year at that took the $2,000,000 mortgage SHOULD loose his home.

When the feds applied the "no child left behind" mentality to society and folks were not allowed to fail, there were no longer consequences for being stupid, well the stupid appeared in droves.

The same mentality pervades the liberal left wind institution I attend . . . every EXPECTS $250,000+ and large bonuses as soon as they graduate . . . we've taught that it's an entitlement.
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Ducxl
Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2009 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Linda Thomson,the SEC Director of enforcement reports she intercepted over 70 Ponzi schemes on Wall st. last year.

The Corruption is chronic on Wall st. Wall st. is filled with immoral investors that must be dealt SWIFT punishment.

Barak can interfere with those criminals.
Putin did with Khodorefski,Hugo did with big oil.So can Barak,he can send out the Special forces black ops teams to the stock exchange.
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Court
Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2009 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>Linda Thomson,the SEC Director of enforcement reports she intercepted over 70 Ponzi schemes on Wall st. last year.


Source please.

And . . I am not asking to challenge you, I am asking because it is relavent to a business start up I am involved with regarding ethics on Wall Street.
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Court
Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2009 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>>he can send out the Special forces black ops teams to the stock exchange.

By the way . . . no he can't, not in the USA where Bernie Madoff is home watching the Super Bowl in his $7,000,000 apartment, the guys who shot two undercover cops in the backs of their heads with a .44 Mag in a buy-bust gone wrong are getting out after 5 years and the guy who shot me did 10 months for 7 counts of aggrevated assault with intent to kill. . . . and we are conferring rights to the folks locked up at Gitmo.

It's just a fact . . America, in many ways, has grown soft and adopted a "no citizen left behind" mentality.

Our leaders, boisterous as they may be, will get listened to when they become role models. That would of course prevent having tax cheats heading the IRS, Nancy Pelosi crusing around on her private jet while pointing the finger at execs and having a Chicago neighborhood organizer, with lots of folks eager to get their paybacks waiting, as their leader.

I'm not perceiving the Wall Street folks being very scared and, with the promise of Barack's tax plans, most have made sure they'll make nothing "on paper" this year or next. . . .

He's smart, they're smarter.
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