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Archive through January 12, 2004Bomber30 01-12-04  03:23 pm
         

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Dynarider
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

after he left Sun, it was downhill at a high rate of speed . . . his management may have been even worse (by today's standards), but Elvis had about 6 months of good work, 12 month of understandable fame

Elvis had a recording career that spanned 20 years. His first songs were recorded around 1954 or so & in 1976 he was still recording. A lot of his songs from the late 50's & early 60's are classics today, & I personally find a lot of his later work great. I think Suspicious Minds is one of his best works & thats from 69. Burning love is another song of his that is great & its from 72.

Did you know Elvis was the first person to be censored on tv? He was also the first to go "un-plugged" for an audience..Something MTV would start doing 20 years later. He was the 1st to perform an entire concert that was globally televised.

Elvis was in inspiration for all those who have followed him. The man took steps that were deemed too risky & yet he succeded.
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Bomber
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dyna

your data points are all accurate, I'm sure (as they most always are) . . . my opinions stand, however, in that he did little original work throughout his career, and his work declined, greatly, after his initial exposure
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Rocketman
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A friend of mine took Suspicious Minds to the number 1 slot in States way back in the 80's. His band was the first to chart an Elvis cover in the States since Elvis's death - seems previously no one touched Elvis stuff out of respect - but then my good friend was born in Birmingham.

Rocket
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Ray_maines
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm just a curning urn of burning love..............
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Ray_maines
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 07:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocket: you got friends?
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Anonymous
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dyna, I guess that's true...Buell motorcycles are "moderately talented" the same way Elvis was. I'll accept that!
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Crusty
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 05:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey, Anonymous; Dyna's going to be riding a Firebolt with Lightning ergonomics in the not too distant future. Then he'll be singing the praises on the XBs while finding other things to stir the pot about. I'll bet you a can of Pepsi on it.
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Innes
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 06:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I agree that he never did anything half decent after he left Sun, the early rockabilly stuff had raw edge to it, & everything else after was just over produced & yes, marketed, but then that's the American way ain't it?
& hey Bubba as for Lisa-Marie maybe she is & maybe she ain't but I'm told that in the South that don't matter!!!!!!!
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Dynarider
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 07:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buell motorcycles are "moderately talented" the same way Elvis was. I'll accept that!

Remains to be seen if Buell continues to parallel Elvis & eventually dies an early & tragic death.

Crusty, you never know what will happen in this crazy world.
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Ara
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bomber. Thank you.
I think it's plain that the way such "talents" as Britany Spears and Christian Agulara are being marketed today owes much to way Elvis was marketed.
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Bomber
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 09:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ara . . . .we agree that Elvis' career IS a great example of early marketing in the rock and roll world . . . . we've yet to see the end of it, and likely never will . .. .

I was lucky in that I lived in a household that exposed me to the stuff Elvis and his handlers "borrowed" from . . . hearing the originals took the fun out of the weak re-makes immediately, for me, anyways . . . .

this is like the discussion last year on the white rapper (I forget his name) . . . it proves that taste is highly variable, and little objective data exists to prpove, or disprove anyone's taste (thank goodness, I say)
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Ara
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bomber,
My older sister was an Elvis nut, so I too got a lot of early exposure. The AM radio was always on when my sister was home. But then she grew out of Elvis and thought that the Beatles were angles from heaven, and I observed how fickle apparently die-hard fans (and the music business in general, I later learned) could be. Sometimes attention span, sizzle factor, and the latest new thing and how it's packaged and marketed have a lot more to do with success than talent, depth, or real contribution. As for popular opinion, it surely must be the most fickle thing in the universe.
Russ
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Bomber
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Amen, brother, Amen


signed, a Beach Boy Fan that never quite got the Beatles <grin>
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 08:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My view on the subject...

Elvis ROCKS!
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