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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For that kinda $$... I'd give them a try...

http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1=5000&L2=10&L3 =155&L4=&item=CGC_CG-0702_G
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Preybird1
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

NO thanks, I personally do not like that brand of tire, Also goodyear is having rubber problems. They used to manufacture tires for us and other retailers with our brand name on them and we dropped them as our main tire manufacturer because of this! And guess what goodyear makes and owns dunlop, Also they put there tire on a kawasaki ninja 250 factory. I bet they are old and have been on the shelf for to long time, I would want to see the D.O.T stamp on the tire first. Or they are hurting for sales like everyone else is and are dropping prices, Or discontinued inventory too make money.

Whichever it is i just cant trust this brand\company anymore, And i wont even sell there tires at my shop.

http://www.williamskherkher.com/goodyear_plant_bla st_kills_one.aspx

http://www.tiredefects.com/news.cfm?Key=defective- motorcycle-tire-law&News=2106

I also heard that one of there plants in china burned down YEAH YOU ALL READ RIGHT (CHINA) I try to only buy american.
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Texastechx1
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 12:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dunlops are crap... for the most part

when they are hot and dry, they hook with the best of em... but any other situation they are almost hazardous to ride on.

and they wear out horribly fast!




Just my .02
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Maxbuell
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 06:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm with wolf on this one for $ they are worth a try. I always felt brand new tires are better than worn out tires.
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Ulynut
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 06:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Dunlop 616's my Uly came with were great in the rain.
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Guell
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 06:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I thought those dunlops sucked hard. They were on my cyclone when i bought it
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I didn't know Goodyear made Dunlops. I know I don't like the Goodyears on my pick up. And funny when I went to price tires for the truck I had 2 dealers highly recomend not buying Goodyears, for whatever that's worth.
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

$140 for a pair of new tires seems like a great idea.

Unfortunately, in this case, it is not.

The reason is that this tire, the D220 is based on an older technology, the Dunlop D207, with a new name and tread pattern.

Guys who have been on the boards for a couple of years will remember this tire: it was really awful, and every one hated them, me included.

DO NOT BUY THESE TIRES. They suck. Problems were bad turn in, standing up on braking and poor traction.

There are some excellent sport touring tires out there, that cost about twice as much, but are worth it, if you consider they might make the difference between crashing or not.

Excellent sport touring tires are the Michelin Pilot Road, Pirelli Strada, and the new Dunlop Roadsmarts, which have been very highly rated in comparative tests in Europe.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Glad to find out they sucked before I spent any $$$
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Spatten1
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dunlops are crap????? Don't work wet and cold????

You need to ride on some Qs. Everyone on this site that's tried them has had most excellent results, especially in the wet and when cold.
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Sanchez
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dunlop has some bad tires, but they also have some really good tires.

I wasn't super happy with the 616's that came on my Ulysses. I particularly disliked the head shake from the front tire. I did get good mileage out of them, though, and I had no traction issues.

D209's and 211's are some of the best track tires you can get.

I just put a Roadsmart on the back of my Ulysses, and so far I'm quite pleased. I haven't had a chance to really push them yet, but the profile feels great compared to the previous Continental Road Attack. Turn in feels very linear and predictable.
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Spatten1
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BTW, the XBs handled weird with D208s. I don't have a clue why Buell used to put those tires on. I also agree that the 208s weren't as good as the pirellis of the same era. But its been a few years since then and Dunlop makes great sport tires now.
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Texastechx1
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ok... maybe I'm refering and comparing the sticky street style tires... not the other kinds.
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Brinnutz
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dunlop Qualifiers have been good to me.

210's IIRC
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Crusty
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The D220 Dunlops were evolved from the D205 Sport touring tires, not the D207 Sport tires. I had no problems with the D205s on my S3-T; in fact, I really liked them. I knew a few people who had positive comments about the D220s when they came out. I tried a set on my M2, and while I didn't love them, they were not a bad tire. However, I loved the Avon AV45/46 Azaros on my M2, but hated them on my '06 Uly, so I don't know if I'd like the D220s on my XT or not.
Over the years, I've had some pretty good tires from Dunlop, starting with the K81 tires that were the standard tire for club racing, back in the '70s. I don't know if the D220s would feel as good as the Diablo Stradas that are on my XT, but I bet they would not be a bad tire. At $140/pair they are worth some serious consideration.
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Spatten1
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You know what's funny about this is that even D208s probably work better than an 80's superbike race tire.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Qs and the newer sport tires from the other manufacturers would be as good as a GP tire from the early 90's.

Even the tires we gripe about now are far superior to what was available not so long ago.
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Edgydrifter
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have Dunlop GT501s on my Seca and they work like a charm. On the other hand, it is a 25-year-old bike in slightly below-average condition that I never ride in the rain, so I wouldn't say I've really pushed the GTs to the limit. I can say that you can go 100 mph on them comfortably and that they handle grooved pavement pretty well, so there are a couple things to add to the "plus" column.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 04:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I didn't like the D220's on my M2. They were a step backwards from the D205's. They wore out faster, took forever to warm up, and were positively hazzardous when cold. They also failed in a bad way, delaminating a big strip down the center all at once.

MeZ6 was a better tire in every way (IMHO).
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Dobr24
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 04:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have to agree with Sanchez, the 209 and 211's are freakin awesome on the track!
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Dwardo
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Can anyone suggest a replacement for the Dunlop D220 that is on the back of my M2, given that I have a D220 on the front with probably only 2000 miles or less? I'd like to step up to a better tire but I'm not going to replace the front prematurely. I don't ride too hard but I do ride in rain pretty often.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I mixed a D220 with a Metzler MeZ6, and it worked fine.
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M2nc
Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I presently have D220 on my Uly. Originally got them for the M2 because it was what I could find. This is what I have noticed over the last 2200 miles.

Profile is not as good as the Sync. Very quick turn in, but they do hold the line better than the Stradas.

Caracas is much thicker and heavier than the Syncs or Stradas. Off-roading the Uly with Pirellis has proven that the Pirellis are just weak and puncher very easy. Out of five Pirelli rear tires I have had on the Uly, only one wore out. The rest split or were punctured, the last due to hitting a rock on a gravel road. In turn, I have only flatten one Dunlop (D616) due to a nail. Actually, the D220 does better in sand and mud than the Syncs.

Pirellis suck in the rain. Period. The D205, D207, D616 and D220 all are great rain tires. Riding in the rain on Pirellis, they tend to give up traction very quick on painted line, light oil (that light rain pulls up) and wet tar strips. All Dunlops have done better in the rain, never spooking me in the rain. The D616 were the best with the D220's a close second.

To each his own, but I would not mind another set of D220s.
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Doz
Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 07:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've been burning up qualifiers ever since I got my xb and have been happy with them, just got a set of pirellis... Geez I hope they don't suck!
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Oldog
Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My experiences with the Dunlop tires were less than stellar, they wear quickly best milage was d205 going about 5k on the back
slippery when cold, the de-lam Reepi mentions above, I saw starting on more than one tire. The LAST d205 on my bike, was molded with the tread out of round to the tire body there was cord showing on one side, and 2~3 mm of center tread on the other, balance was always an issue

The only way I would use the dunlop tires was if I had 2 sets of rims and they are used only for commuting,

As tight as money is how much is your hide worth?
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Spatten1
Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oldog: What year did you use the 205s? I don't thing that they have anything in common with modern dunlop sport tires.

Qualifiers are thier standard sport tire now, and they are cheap and work great cold and wet. The only people that say Dunlops suck on this site have not even tried them.

Also, I think 220's superceded 205's with improvements for cold/wet traction, didn't they?

I can't really speak to sport touring tire capabilities, but I damn sure know that the Qualifiers work great on the street and race track.
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Spatten1
Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just saw Reeps post on teh 220 cold/wet/wear issues.

I still contend the new tires are great, but I'll take both of your advice and stay away from 220's.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They weren't so bad that I pulled them. I just didn't want to use them again. If you can get a front ***and*** a back for $150 or so, and are going to be doing more touring then sport, they might be a reasonable choice.
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Oldog
Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oldog: What year did you use the 205s? I don't thing that they have anything in common with modern dunlop sport tires.

The X1 was equipped with 207's new I used 205s' for a while, best wear I had was about 5K
I run Conti road attacks, I get about 6k
from a rear tire now, and good wet and cold grip and no outa round delam issues

the delam issue looks like razor cuts around the tire this is where the different hardness compounds meet and the bonds break.

I was less than impressed with the dunlop tires, try contis next set .
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Spatten1
Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I used 207s in the 1990s. Nowadays they are not so impressive, but for that era they were damn good. They did always cup badly on the front, and I only got 1500 miles from a rear, all street riding, mostly mountains.

There really weren't any good contintnal sport tires back then. All the brands have taken big leaps in the last 10 years.
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Texastechx1
Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I rolled the 207s for a while, probibly the stickest street tire I've had on my buell. Too bad i went through the rear tire every 1000-1500 miles and the front only lasted 4000 miles! I have since used Michelin Pilot Sports and they have 5500 miles on front and rear with a little more than half tread left on the rear... and my riding habits haven't changed
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Krassh
Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Those D220's were stock on Kawi Mean Streak's. Heavy cruiser. Had one of those D220 fronts on my Yamaha GTS-1000 because was the only front I could find in a 130 front size.

Piece's of crap and I do not like Dunlop's to begin with...
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Cyclonemick
Posted on Friday, January 30, 2009 - 09:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have qualifiers on my M2 and am planning on buying another set! Great tires for wet, dry, commuting or aggresive riding!
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Cyclonemick
Posted on Friday, January 30, 2009 - 09:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry I meant Roadsmarts! I had qualifiers last time, They weren't bad either but I got better mileage out of the roadsmarts!
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Friday, January 30, 2009 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My VRod came stock with Dunlops.......crap. I don't ven have 1400 miles on it and they're shot.

Does Pirelli make a 200 that'll fit a 5.5" rim?
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