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2008xb12scg
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

3/8" - 25 to 250lbs. Is this the best size, kind for the Buells? I need to go back and torque all the bolts after installing the exhaust, but don't have a torque wrench. It seems all the bolts are supposed to be torqued and loctited. I don't have my manuel with me to see if it's in ft/lbs. Thanks
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Nik
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 07:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The header nuts are really low, something like 80-90 in-lbs. If you just swapped the muffler then I wouldn't worry about using a torque wrench on everything.
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Xb1200rick
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use two , and try to torque everything by the book . You need 1 like you described 25-200+ lbs. and one for in-lbs. It might be overkill but I sleep better
Rick
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 09:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wish mine was 1/2" instead of 3/8".
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a beam inch pound torque wrench in 3/8th drive.......and Snap-On clickers in 1/4,3/8 and 1/2 inch drive.Seems I use all of them a lot. Next is to get a screw driver torque wrench for scope mounts and such. I'm not anal about torque....but if I have the specs handy ,I'll usually go with them.
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Skinstains
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A torque for everything and everything to torque.
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

While on the subject (sorta) what kind of loc-tite in general do you guys use?
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Preybird1
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use 4 different colors red,blue,green,purple. Depending what the FSM says. I like red the most, purple is for like brake rotor bolts very critical!
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Skinstains
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use never-sieze and check torque often.
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I read that from you b4, skin. You don't have any problems? How often is often? In miles I mean.
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Strokizator
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 07:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've just been torquing things down to between a grunt and grunt-and-a-half.
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use dial type torque wrenches.
I have three of them.
An inch pound one, a ft. pound one, and a big old one that reads upto 250 ft lbs for changing the primary chain.


cc


I do not like "clickers" for two reasons.

1. They require periodic calibration
2. They lose feel just when the clicker breaks, so that the mechanic never develops a feel for the correct torque. The result is often seen on this board: " I torqued it according to spec.s, but the bolt or the primary case stripped."

As far as Loctite is concerned, I use Blue most of the time. Red requires heat to loosen, I rarely use it.

Use Anti seize between aluminum swing arm, front forks and steel axles and other places where steel and aluminum meet.

Blue Loctite also performs an anti seize function, as it prevents the ingress of water in threaded aluminum with a steel fastener in it.

I also substitute stainless steel fasteners when they thread into aluminum whenever possible, which is most of the time. Stainless is closer to aluminum on the galvanic scale, and thus corrodes less when threaded into aluminum.

Stainless in not appropriate in some high strength applications.
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thank you guys for all the advice. It looked like the dealer used a grey? loc-tite. I use blue on the truck, so I'm glad to hear that works.
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Ulyscol
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You can never have too many torque wrenches!
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Skinstains
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 01:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey 08, I don't check torques too often. I am messin' with the Buells a lot so I guess that keeps me active re-torquing. I have three XBR's betwen me and my non-mechanically inclined son so there is almost always one not running for some reason (maintenance, upgrades, painting, him crashing, etc.). I have never had any bolt fall out/off of any of my Buells.

Much like Gentleman jon, I am painfully aware of the materials being fastened together as well as what material is doing the fastening. In order to re-use a lock-tited hole I wouldn't feel I was doing it right unless both the male and female threads were thoroughly cleaned and dried. I do this with the never-siezed holes/surfaces now and it is much easier to clean out/off than lock-tite. I would need to chase the threads were I using the lock-tite. I also have most of the fasteners' torques labeled on the bike so it is real fast and easy to keep up with. Another thing I do is, I grease the axles instead of using the never-sieze on them as the book suggests. Why use a gritty medium in between two metals ? In closing, don't fortet that I'm a obsesive compulsive anal retentive maniac who truly believes that everything can last forever if it's treated properly. Almost. I have gone so far as to buy heli-coils for most of the fasteners on my Buells (not installed yet) so that the aluminum the threads are cut in to won't wear out from usage.
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If not forever, a lot longer! Look at our grandparents cars, mine anyway. My Grampy had a 64? cyclone/comet More miles than he could remember or the odo could show. Ran and looked like a dream. Why, cuz he washed it every weekend and never let anything go. Guess he was a little anal to.
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