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Teddagreek
Posted on Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 08:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My Father in law has a Victory in grand scheme of things Another American Motorcycle company is a Win Win..
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Jb2
Posted on Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Alex and Ferris,

Harley Charlie was a cool old dude. They used to build choppers in the back of the general store. It was not uncommon to see Charlie's old Knuck and/or one of his sons bikes setting atop a 50 gal wooden barrel getting attention.... right next to the soap aisle. ; ) I'll post some pictures one of these days when I can get another scanner.

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Who Did What First
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Interesting note about fuel in frame since a lot of folks tend to be concerned about "who did what first"... This is from the AMA Museum website about the Pierce 4 cylinder motorcycle introduced in 1909. A friend of mine owns one of these and it is pure beauty.

>>> It’s likely Percy found his inspiration for this machine in Europe, specifically in motorcycles like the exclusive Belgian-built FN, says Geoffrey Stein, associate curator of history at the New York State Museum and author of “The Motorcycle Industry in New York State.” As the first mass-produced four-cylinder bike on the Continent, the FN had turned heads in Europe and America.

“The FNs had been sold in this country since 1906, so they were around,” Stein says. “It’s not as if Pierce had to come up with the idea for a four on their own.”

Still, Percy’s company brought some innovation to the four, introduced in 1909. The hollow frame held fuel in the copper-coated upper sections, and oil in the front downtube. The “vibrationless” engine put power to the road with shaft drive, and, beginning in 1910, had a two-speed transmission and multi-disc clutch. Other high-end touches included hidden control cables, and a spring/pneumatic front fork


It's interesting to note that even though the Pierce had many "firsts" people were always quick to state "who did what first". Even back then, as everybody and their brother was forging and welding their own versions of this new phenomenon know as the motorcycle, "who did what first" seems to always be one of the most important aspects of it.

My guess is the folks who worked on the CORE bike learned something that will be integrated in new Victory models. Even if what they produced might be deemed as art or copied or pointless, I'll bet they learned more than a thing or two. The CORE bike can be assembled in less than an hour. Simplicity was one focus of many in this project.

I'm glad there are still folks tinkering away late at night trying to improve on what is already the most perfect way to move. The soul in motion.

JB2

(Message edited by jb2 on January 17, 2009)
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Cowboy
Posted on Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just note. This concept was used in the oil field for off shore equipment for storage of--compresed air--fuel--hyd oil--fresh water- and any thing that had to be transported with equipment for a self contained orp.I dont know when it started but I was useing this system in the early 50's
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Mikethebike72
Posted on Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I remember before Deal's Gap became the Dragon there was an gnarly old guy who owned the Tallassee General store.

I am glad others remember Deal's Gap. I can handle it when people call it the Dragon. But I hate to hear it called Tail of the Dragon. That site ruined a perfectly good road.
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...in grand scheme of things Another American Motorcycle company is a Win Win.

+1

Ferris
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Gschuette
Posted on Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I love the clean look of the victory powertrain.

I want a BMW lo-rider. Their various concepts are gorgeous!
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