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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

crazy

http://shock.military.com/Shock/videos.do?displayC ontent=180882&page=2&ESRC=dod.nl
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Teeps
Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Looks like C.G.G. to me.
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Bbbob
Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Can I have one for my yard? Looks like it would work as home security & pest control.
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Bill0351
Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

GREAT!

A $5,000,000 replacement for the $10 hand grenade!

Your tax dollars at work!

It is pretty cool though.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Actually, I believe it has something to do with neutralizing multiple independent reentry vehicles ( MIRV's ). In other words, nuclear warheads.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

GREAT!

A $5,000,000 replacement for the $10 hand grenade!

Your tax dollars at work!


I was thinking the same thing... But if it can bust a cap in a nuke and keep us from glowing in the dark.....
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

we always want to fight the last war. Unless that thing can hover over the desert canyons and 'clean' the ravines or cities, it is worthless in the current efforts against radical terrorist vermin

(Message edited by cityxslicker on December 20, 2008)
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

we always want to fight the last war

I disagree. I don't believe the "last war" ever went away and thank God, neither does our intelligence services. The bear was wounded but it ain't dead. Also, China is on the rise and will need to be contained, although I'm not sure that task can be accomplished. It never hurts to be prepared and something is always learned from these wacky weapon systems even if they are never deployed.
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Slaughter
Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pakistan and Iran are nuclear and nearly unfathomable as to intent.

N Korea is nuclear and desperate.

The Russkies and ex-Soviets aren nuclear and cash-starved.

South Africa - back in the day was allied with Israel and allegedly had completed a test detonation.

Kinda hard to justify on face value given current threats but to say that the ballistic threat doesn't exist is silliness.

(Message edited by slaughter on December 20, 2008)
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you would be surprised at how REACTIVE our intelligence services are. In 1991 they categorically cut Russian linguists, analysts, ops and technical surveillance, it has crippled them severely. the big focus now is Iraq/Afganistan, muslim terrorist global war.
I was early out of the military because I refused to go learn arabic. (wtf like I could just pic up another language from an entirely different linguistic family) Apparently some line item personnel clerk thought linguist meant you should be able to speak any language.
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Spiderman
Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

regardless of what it is and used for!



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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't believe we are "crippled" when it comes to keeping an eye on the Russians. I'll give a few examples. I work with a young fellow that is fluent in Russian and up until a year ago worked on a sub and at the No Such Agency using his linguistic skills. He was hardly alone in this endeavor. Secondly, the C_A still trains people to read and speak Russian. The reason there appears to be an enhanced focus on learning Arabic is because the U.S. intelligence community had very few people capable of doing so.

(Message edited by ferris_von_bueller on December 20, 2008)
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

maybe if I were on the east coast, maybe if I werent in the military for so damn long, then maybe one of the alphabet soup agencies would pay me. But when I have applied (on an annual basis for some time now, I get the standard photocopy of a memiographed form letter thanking me for my application yadda yadda yadda )
If it werent for Russian Brides, I would never get to use the damn language. (and more of them are learning english)
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Ochoa0042
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what is it shooting? it kinda looks fake....
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Slaughter
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's not shooting anything - those are reaction control jets.

That vid is almost 15 years old.
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Slaughter
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

OK - I was a little wrong - vid is 20-ish years old


quote:

A partially successful hover test of a laboratory model of the Space-Based Interceptor (SBKKV) was conducted at the Air Force Astronautics Laboratory, Edwards AFB, California, in November 1988. This pre-prototype interceptor was demonstrated successfully in three series of SBKKV hover tests at the Astronautics Laboratory. The first series tested the interceptor's guidance and propulsion systems. The second series demonstrated the ability of the interceptor's integrated seeker assembly to lock on to a thrusting rocket plume and then shift its aimpoint from the hot, bright plume to the relatively cold, dim body of the rocket. This was a critical and previously unsatisfied requirement for any anti-ballistic-missile weapon system using infrared seekers.


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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That vid is almost 15 years old.

You're talking about "Brilliant Pebbles" kill vehicle from the Reagan SDI era. It does look similar but from the comments associated with the video this is supposed to be an updated version. Who knows....

Pretty good video quality for 20 year old footage. I think this is a new test of an old idea.

(Message edited by ferris_von_bueller on December 21, 2008)
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Unibear12r
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not a part of the Brilliant Pebbles smoke screen.
Yes they just completed a new series of tests. This is one of the few open things you are allowed to see and not much of it at that.
This is a part of the family of kill vehicles that is already on a few US Navy ships. The one that killed that satellite a while back.
These kind of programs have been quietly reshaping our world for many years now.
Most of you have no clue of the political fallout there's been between nations and how much better you are sleeping at night because of them.
Worth every black penny.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 01:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Want to destroy a country's commerce? take away their reality TV satellite.
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Swampy
Posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 08:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Last War


Reality TV

Ha, Ha

I'm a product of the nuclear annihilation generation.

You can't scare me with one of those...

You better be careful where you are pointing that...it might be loaded
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I can do this by farting. Buy me Grilled Stuff'd Burritos from TB and we're good to go.
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Swordsman
Posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just got a really nasty mental image of Chinashop hovering under the power of his own farts with a sniper rifle in hand.

~SM
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No, I don't need a sniper rifle, I hoover and kill using the same gas source.
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Ochoa0042
Posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 09:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+ =
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Unibear12r
Posted on Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 01:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Damn, sniper fire, bun-son burner or just bean rounds, that would be a sight.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 08:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Despite the cute nick name SDI aka "Star Wars" developed some incredible tech. The guys over at the U of R laser/fusion lab are using spinoff laser/power tech to improve the Shiva gizmo, and the big spinoff is the power handling equipment.

The space race of the 1950-1970's spun off so much valuable technology that NASA may be the only part of the govt. ever to actually make the planet a profit...not that they have a P.R. dept worth beans to tell anyone about it.

SDI's tech legacy is the ( some still classified ) ability to handle large power densities. When the goal is to shine a fancy flashlight on a nuclear bomb doing mach 20...and make it quit working, you need not only real ballsy batteries, but a way to hook up the flashlight that doesn't arc, melt & vaporise.

The tech to hit a real fast bullet with another fast bullet is what the video above hints at. I'm not surprised that the first practical ICBM/IRBM interceptors are upgraded Navy standard missiles, with kudo's to the Patriot as first publicly shown shooting down Scuds ( more often than not ).

true, history shows that terrorists, being pretty stupid ( with the notable exception of M. Atta, who suicide/homicide'd a plan into the Twin Towers ) have to use stolen/loaned tech to blow things up. Hence the Ryder rent a truck as the ( prior to 9/11/01 ) common U.S. terrorist missile. Gamma ray lasers & brilliant pebbles don't help with hitting the moving van full of amfo before it kills....

On the other hand, plenty of evil bastards have or have access ( thanks Russia, China, N.Korea, Iran, etc ) to ballistic missiles that could carry a nasty payload into a city near you. Europe is way too close to Mesopotamia, when the children of the V2 are given as party favors to religious fanatics, or even the run of the mill kleptocrat by former Comblock a-holes who want to still have a cold war with proxies.

So, all in all, groovy stuff. Maybe in a decade we can have automatic lanes for cars on expressways, so that I can sleep on the way to work. Guidance tech has implications past the military.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is what I want to see in action. A few years ago at the Joint Services Open House, at Andrews AF base, there was a static display of a missile with an approximate one foot hole burned into it by a ground based laser of the sort pictured below.


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Miamiuly
Posted on Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I get really sick of Lockheed Martin commercials on CNN bragging about making things happen and acting like they are the great American company.

Like they aren't making huge profits, they act as though they do it for free as patriots. STFU and take your money. I mean our money.
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