| Author | Message | ||
     Froggy |
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| Brumbear |
I got an 07 ford edge its been in for transfer seals and transfer case replacement 6 times now in 14 months. The recession we are in may partly be because of the crap comming out of the big 3. But I don't know much about the economy I do know none of my american cars except my 1986 trans am were built in country I must say I do not know were the edge was built so I hope its Mexico or Canada cause if not let the big three go to those countries for a bailout. My next auto will be Japanese because we are in a recession and I can not afford another disaster. I will probably look at a toyota or nissan king cab as soon as I dump the POS edge | ||
| Nxtr |
Froggy, I won’t ruin the thread, so I will take back all my apparent misguided comments regarding the American automakers... I will add that Bads1 has got it right!!! My, Developed and designed by Honda's R&D Americas operation, Built in America (East Liberty, Ohio), by NON UNION American employees, 2004 Honda Element is the best most versatile trouble free vehicle I have ever owned... V/R, Nick (Message edited by nxtr on December 07, 2008) | ||
| Ratbuell |
Hm. Our Ram has needed....um....well....does it count if I have to put diesel in it every couple of weeks? Seriously - oil changes every 5k, tire rotation every other oil change, and that's it for 60k miles. I think some wiper blades in there too... Oh. Wait. Some of the chrome is coming off the plastic wheel centercaps <shrug>. Our Magnum R/T is equally trouble-free, other than <gasp> two rattles this past summer. One, a sunroof bolt TSB; the other, a loose speaker screw in the dash. 'course, my Wrangler is junk. 144k abusive, muddy miles and I just this evening had to put pads, rotors, and a caliper on it. | ||
| Bads1 |
Rat, Your one of the few. Also most of the Dodge products are below average on consumer reports to just average. Now look up any Toyota or Honda??? Leaps and bounds better. Its great that your having a good experience with your Dodges. Me... mine have been with others is all. (Message edited by bads1 on December 07, 2008) | ||
| Brumbear |
I have a 1996 Dodge caravan 2003 dodge ram150 van 1986 pontiac trans am 2002 mitsubishi lancer (sons car) 2007 Ford edge I have ownly owned 1 japanese car that I used in my life a suzuki sammuri it was indestructable but over all I have never liked Japanese products but they are truly better right now and I have no choice I can not really can not afford to have another POS I did buy 2006 Hyundai and got rid of it in 6 months took a 2000$ hit cause I hated it to get the edge and well what can I say I'm not sorry I did it but I am saddened that they let a car like the edge out into production where is the QC | ||
| Cowboy |
I have no experience gas powered trucks. I have owned Ford--chevrolet- GMC--dodge diesels only problem with dodge is twisting out U-joints only $15.00 each, my son and I both use them to the max I am very happy with them. | ||
| Rpm4x4 |
My wife has an 01 saturn SC2 with 178,000 miles on it. The damn thing never breaks down. Whenever my Dodge dually with 238,000 miles needs regular maintenence my wife bitches that its always needing something. For some freak reason her car never needs anything. I need brakes every 30k or so, hers got its first brake job around 135k. Both of our vehicles have been great in my opinion. The dodge dually does cost a lot more to maintain but thats a diesel thing, plus its bombed and I tow pretty heavy often. I just wanted to point out that the big 3 didnt only build crap. Both of my vehicles look and drive like they are new and they are high milers. | ||
| Blake |
Funny story: Michele was up tossing and turning most of last night out of concern about where/how her 226K mile 1994 Ford Exploder would end up. She traded it in on a barely used Saab 9-3. Not the convertible, but what a car. Nothing American that I know can come close. Makes me angry. GM needs to go bankrupt on account of they suck. | ||
| Froggy |
Uhh Blake, the 9-3 is built on the Epsilon platform, same as the Chevy Malibu....  | ||
| Brumbear |
IS the power train a chevy as well? They did make a few SABAROO's as well built off the subaru but I am not sure which is which | ||
| Dhalen32 |
Buelltours: I tow a 1050lb enclosed aerodynamic motorcycle trailer with a 2008 Honda Odyssey minivan. You can tow 3350 pounds with the Honda (and two occupants) so I can put in two bikes plus gear and still be easily under 3000 pounds. Around town it gets about 20 mpg and on the highway we have seen 25 - 26 mpg. While towing the mileage drops one or two mpg depending upon grade and wind. Towing the track bike and gear to my local track I see no impact on gas mileage (very little elevation change between my home and the track). The van uses cylinder deactivation to boost mileage and I have found it gets better economy using straight unleaded rather than the cheaper 10% alcohol blend. I'm not sure the rebates are there for you though. They might have some low interest financing. That's not unusual this time of year. Dave Dave | ||
| Pkforbes87 |
87 honda civic - $500 43 mpg highway 36 mph city Just can't tow anything, and she doesn't like going over 70 mph. I don't care whether its american or jap. This thing is reliable and sips fuel. Gotta love the monster 1.5 liter! (an option on the 87 civic - 1.3 liter was the base model) | ||
| B00stzx3 |
F-150 FTW. | ||
| Froggy |
Brumbear, yes.
From wikipedia. The SAABaru was 9-2X (Impreza)and the canceled 9-6X (Tribeca). | ||
| Bads1 |
Buelltours, Go buy a Honda Element. It'll do so much you wouldn't believe it. All wheel drive.It can haul 2 bikes and a trailer. Yes you can get class 3 towing on it. It can haul more then most mini vans without as much hassel. Gas milage will get you what your looking for. You can pick one up for under 22 grand. Reliability is.... well its a Honda... doesn't break. | ||
| Court |
F-150 It didn't remain the best selling vehicle for 30 year by accident. Unless you are an over the road trucker or REALLY hauling something (I can put two Buells in the bed of mine and not even know they are there) most folks need the $10,000 diesel option like a kick in the shins. | ||
| Chasespeed |
Court, I can by principle, agree with that. BUT, after 1 Cummins(looking for another), 2 Powerstrokes, and an older 7.3 IDI... I have a thing for diesels.. I sold my latest PSD back in June, and bought a used Caddy(which the wife is taking back to TX this month)... I prefer a diesel over anything else in a truck, or heavy SUV... just works... excess, sure... BUT, getting 20ish mpg, AND being able to move some serious cargo, AND being quicker than alot of cars, is worth it, IMHO... Besides, nothing gets rid of tailgaters better than laying a cloud of black smoke behind ya... Chase | ||
| Court |
Chase: Don't get me wrong . . . I have nothing against diesels, the current crop are mechanical marvels. I'm a big fan of pickups and different folks use them for different things. I'm also CHEAP. I buy my pickup primarily for transportation and adding $10,000 (roughly $5K for the motor and $5K for the trans if memory serves) for me makes my "cheap" pickup no longer cheap. If . . . if I were really hauling something other than motorcycles, say pulling a trailer, I'd for sure go diesel. Plus I like having the spare battery and the power take-off option. There are some VERY good pickups available. Court | ||
| Buelltours |
Thanks everybody for all your feedback! Pick-ups are definitely great for hauling bikes, but my wife would kill me if I brought home a F-150! The same would happen if I bought a minivan. Way too risky. :-) I agree, the Odyssey is a great and very comfortable all around hauler - one of my neighbors just bought one. Oh well... A really really neat thing is the rail which attaches to the hitch and can simply "backpack" a bike. If I want to do this with my Buell, I would need a class IV hitch, correct? The Element would probably do a wheelie... A crossover will also not handle this load... A midsize SUV like the new 09 KIA Borrego could handle it while still delivering acceptable comfort and fuel economy. Has anybody driven it yet? | ||
| Cochise |
The only thing I have against Kia's are their residual values. My wife and I have a Honda Ridgeline. Trunk in the bed, Class 3 Hitch, room for 5. Down side, no VCM. | ||
| Bads1 |
What kind of load are you talk'n?? If your talking two buell's on a trailer the Element will tow and have zero problems. Hell you can put one bike in the back... no problem. You really said what you needed completely. | ||
| Froggy |
I think he is looking to get one of those things thats not a trailer, it goes into the trailer hitch and looks like a shelf. That would put more weight on the hitch vs getting a trailer. I don't know what they are called. | ||
| Froggy |
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| Chasespeed |
If you want to have a stroke, putting your bike on one of those is sure to give you one. I put a bike on one.. ONE time... sold it after... NOT a smart idea... A dirt bike is okay.. but... This was one of those designed for a bike... Chase | ||
| Bads1 |
If that all he's doing???  | ||
| Nitsebes |
My Sport-trac with a 4.6 3v 20 mpg. Cornel,with your height I think the new F-150 is the Ticket.Plus it's built in Dearborn.You can take a tour of the factory and watch it get built.Just an hour away from you.  | ||
| Court |
Hey . . . . I've been wondering and I'll be the assembled trucksters here know . . . I, in my sunset years, and considering make the extended cab to crew cab leap . . . the idea of FOUR fine Corinthian leather captains chairs is beckoning . . . but, in NYC, I don't want the added wheelbase. Will a Buell fit in a 6-3/4' short-bed? | ||
| Chasespeed |
It fit in the back of my Super Duty, THINK i needed the t/g down. I know my sporty fit in the back with the t/g down... Chase | ||
| Lightningrob |
Everyone overlooked the Jeep Wrangler. I'm not sure what hitch they use, but I'm sure the aftermarket has everything you would need. The new JK version has a V-6 that gets mpg's in the low to mid 20's, comes in either 2 or 4 doors, 4WD = year round fun, and there are some killer rebates going on right now. I haul my bike on a trailer with my '01 TJ and it never misses a beat. I highly reccomend the new Wrangler. |
