| Author | Message | ||
     Hitman44139 |
.223 ammo, if you can find it, is about 50 cents a round which is high in my opinion. I couldn't agree more. wish I would have seen this 3 years ago! my crystal ball broke.I shoot, train and teach quite a bit. I personally shot last year approximately 12,000 rifle and 9000 pistol rounds. I kept most of the brass  You can find it relatively inexpensive. I bought previ partisan(?) I think that what its called) for $350.00. Now not the best ammo but it's brass and fairly reliable. better price than Winchester white box at $565.00 a K. Gun shows are the best way to go. Also I bought a .22 conversion kit for my AR to run drills and practice this year to conserve my .556.I store several K for the Zombies when they come. Now some of that is crap wolf but my Rocky will eat anything. What / Who do you think will actually knock on our doors and ask for our guns?? I know none of my police friends will. I doubt that our military men with good conscience would. I once read a article in SWAT about this. I don't think it will happen in the next 6-8 months. After that who knows. The news i reporting about the possibility of a depression. I'm more worried about this. This isn't a time to panic. It is a time to be aware and vigilant.Be prepared... train and Support The NRA and other PRO gun lobbies. Find a local private FFL and ask him to find you ammo at a good price.. buy it... give him a bottle of Jack and tell him whenever he finds a good deal to call you. What was that song? MOMMA BURRIED MY GUNS IN THE GROUND. I CAN'T USE THEM ANYMORE" Not a bad idea in theory..... Russians do something close to this in the mother land. MY .00002 | ||
| 2008xb12scg |
didn't Adolf Hitler ban all guns, and then confiscate them from the hands of all german citizens To make his nation safer from crime, BTW. As we know now it was a ploy to take power so anybody who disagreed with him couldn't fight back. Scary concept, but what could happen if only the military has guns? As the Presidential office seems to gain more power every year. OOps starting to sound like one of those gun nuts again... | ||
| Bigdaddy |
Someone broke in my house, then they were able to somehow get in my safe, and take all my guns. I have no guns. | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
D.C. is expecting upwards of five million people to see the inauguration of Obama, which far exceeds any that have come before. The entire Mall has been opened to accommodate the expected large crowds. I suspect that when Obama looks out across that vast expanse he will feel empowered and emboldened. The Democrats, led by their Messiah, will be like children on Christmas Day overwhelmed by all the toys. Expect them to come at us fast and furious with every manner of ill-conceived left-wing proposal sure to do one of two things - either take away a right or cost us money. | ||
| Spatten1 |
I just tested out a new firearm in the garage. Bought my kids a BB gun and had to make sure it shoots properly....... Damn, I forgot how much fun they are. I won't want to give the kids a turn. I'm sure Schumer and Pelosi would be offended that I am brainwashing my children at the impressionable ages of 6 and 8 with para-military toys. This is gonna rule. | ||
| Froggy |
Don't forget to make them play GTA that way they will go on a school shooting spree and beat hookers! | ||
| Brumbear |
I know this is unpopular but I don't care if they ban hand guns. I think long guns should be allowed and I think the police should carry assualt guns but just my opinion If they make you register the bullets you buy don't buy em make em | ||
| P_squared |
So if they were to ban handguns, then I can't go handgun hunting? No thanks. If you've never tried deer or pig hunting with a handgun, you might find it's very challenging & rewarding. As for the part of making your own, re-read the proposed legislation. Outlawing all 'untagged' ammunition by 7/1/11. So I have to be a 'criminal' if I want to load my own ammunition? Again, no thanks. Last but not least, it's a RIGHT. Give a little here, a little there, don't be surprised when it's GONE. There's something to be said for the lack of personal responsibility in our society when "it makes sense" to effectively punish the law abiding citizens, instead of doing something to effectively impact the criminals. Time to go ride now. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
This new "domestic" force beholden to ONLY the President sounds strangely like the Brown Shirts or the Praetorian Guard. We assume they would be active duty military, but currently there is no training methodology for a force that is neither military or law enforcement. THIS will be the group responsible for confiscating our weapons. Higher than law enforcement, armed like the military, under the control of the President. When we hear of the new domestic peace force training center, the hair on the back of our necks should stand up. History is repeating folks, right before our eyes. | ||
| Spatten1 |
Higher than law enforcement, armed like the military, under the control of the President. If we do end up with that kind of Executive Power, you can thank Bush and Cheney for the precedent. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Really? Care to guess who was the king of executive orders? He wasn't even in a time of war. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
I dont know how many they got, but I know what we would use against them. That shi@t will start a civil war they are not prepared to be entrenched in. | ||
| Chasespeed |
City... That doesnt matter... you forget the mentality.. Make it illegal, and all the great law obidding sheep, er.. citizens will flock... or ahem.. excuse me... follow suit... The writing is on the wall... The only people we can thank... Ourselves... Glad I am not active duty anymore....... Chase | ||
| Spatten1 |
Care to guess who was the king of executive orders? He wasn't even in a time of war. Nixon? Nah, that was wartime. I'm sure you are referring to Clinton, somehow...... | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
our country is already begining to suck and that new jack a$$ has not even made it in to office yet. I can just emagine how bad it will get after he does get in office. Next thing we will be told what job we will have and told what doctor we have to go to. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
Well, at least I already speak Russian  | ||
| Brumbear |
I try to see the hand gun thing but in NJ There is only 1 real use for a handgun and it aint hunting if you tell me target practice OK then keep it in a town arms room . I tell you again I believe in the right to bear arms just not handguns they are good for 1 thing and good guys aint really doing that. Now it gets tough to make the point when some of you live in huge wide open states I wish there was an easy way but there aint. | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
doesn't NJ have alot of crime? If so hand guns could be used for self defence. I am a soldier and I know that if i was in a tight space (such as a house) you dont want a huge rifle to defend your self you want something compact. | ||
| Garyz28 |
I thought this cartoon made a good point.  | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
I tell you again I believe in the right to bear arms just not handguns If you can take something from this thread and keep it locked away in your memory it should be this: the second amendment has absolutely nothing to do with hunting or even shooting at paper targets. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Why would the founding fathers be SO precise in every detail of the Constitution and be so vague about the 2nd Amendment? IT SAYS EXACTLY WHAT THEY MEANT IT TO SAY! | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
Brumbear, what do you have against handguns? My question is not a challenge, but an invite to reasonable debate. Why are the reasons for owning a handguns any different in NJ than other state? | ||
| Skinstains |
The police want you to think they will protect you. HA ! Take the money you saved by not buying something (a gun) to protect yourself, your partner, your children, and your neighbors. Now invest it in some sort of super speed dial and hope that the cops pick up their end when there are three drug crazed assholes kicking down your daughters bedroom door looking for some money and satisfaction. If you're lucky they will kill you first and not make you watch. Oh, that's right it can't happen here. I almost forgot. Yeah it may sound corny but I would much rather have and not need than to need and not have. I haven't even started on the sporting side of it. | ||
| Skinstains |
Did you ever realize that most of these anti-gunners have armed bodyguards or security details ? They also live in nice safe neighborhoods. Obama has done more good for the gun business than any single person ever has. In about six weeks time he will do more damage to the gun business than one single person ever has. | ||
| Skinstains |
What do Hitler, Mao, and That Russian guy who's name escapes me right now have in common ? They all disarmed their populace just prior to providing them with the nirvana that is an unarmed population... | ||
| Brumbear |
I just do not see a need for handgus . As far as NJ having alot of crime not really there isn't much left to steal. However anytime I got robbed or attempted to be robbed it was at the point of a handgun not that there were alot of times but at least if there were only shotguns or long guns I might have seen it comming might. And for arguments sake Great Britian doesn't allow handguns I believe. It may be a good thing that nazi Germany wasn't armed anymore than it was or we might all be speaking German  | ||
| Slowride |
Brumbear, You have a right to your own opinion.... but as a famous song once said, You got to know when to hold them, know when to fold them.... 2cents | ||
| Ducbsa |
"a good thing that nazi Germany wasn't armed anymore than it was" I don't think the Wehrmacht or the Waffen SS ever lacked for guns and ammo. See the cartoon above. | ||
| Aesquire |
Sorry, Brumbear, but that's not quite right. If the CITIZENS of Germany had been armed, maybe Crystal night might not have gone so well for the Nazi's. ( see KrystalNacht ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht Govt. troops will have weapons from the national armories. Citizens have their own. Subjects of the Crown or other supreme authority....they are deliberately dependent on the whims of the rulers. Supreme Court cases have determined that the Police have no actual obligation to protect you. You can't sue if you call the police because they fail to respond to a call for help. As far as your psychological distinction between hand & long guns.... There is no doubt that a smaller easier to hide weapon is better for criminals. Better to carry for you too. That's not the point. If bad guys kill you with an exacto knife, axe, pocket revolver or a cannon, you are still dead. The separation of types of weapons you should be "ALLOWED" to own is a ploy to chip away at your RIGHT to own anything at all. If you live in a concealed carry permit state, are you going to wear a trenchcoat at all times to hide your shotgun? Not likely. In many states if someone catches a glimpse of your gun, you are in deep trouble. If you can't hide it, you can't carry it, and then you don't have it when you do need it. I freely admit that the odds you need a gun to save lives are very small. Thank the Gods. I've only stopped one violent robbery in progress, and didn't need a gun, because I had help in the form of a large veteran friend who helped subdue the goblin. If the bad guy had not dropped his weapon while beating the 70 year old shop keeper and throwing him into some glass display cases though, I might not be telling you this. http://www.nraila.org//Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx ?ID=17 | ||
| Brumbear |
I know exactly what Krystal nacht was and for Christ sake who said I was against guns I said hand guns you know what I stand fast we do not need em. |
