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Just_ziptab
Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Looking for something cheap,good looking and and solid...(like that's gonna happen). Sears has nothing.....nor Menard's....... that I like.....that ain't over priced for what it is. I have five big steel tune-up cabinets that are great.30x36x14......but just don't look all that good simply because of the color scheme. Could paint them, but then will have sticky and two tone hinges...... and repaints seem to scratch a lot easier than the original paint.They will end up in the basement utility room. I bought a couple of Harbor Freight 3 door cabinets($49.00). Look great in the crinkle black finish! Only prob with them is the depth.....about 8 inches. They do hold a shit load of spray bombs and quart cans(see picture).just not big enuf for Skill saws,helmets and that size stuff. I guess something like those would be on my list if they was about twice the depth and heavier to match the load. My other option would be to build them, but that takes time..... and lumber ain't cheap anymore.(never mind the cannon or what it 's pointing at.....)
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 11:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I got my garage cabinets when a house down the street did a kitchen remodel. I got lucky and they fit perfect.
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F_skinner
Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just installed some cabinets. I got them at Lowes. Easy to put together. The hard part was making a temporary holding platform to mount them. The ones along the wall with the bikes are 4 feet long and about 1 foot in depth and about 2 feet high (3 cabinets total on that wall). The other two are 3 feet high, 1 foot in depth and about 2 feet or 1.5 feet wide. I still have the other side of the garage to do.

Nice artillary Ziptab!











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Just_ziptab
Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 12:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

F_skinner,those look nice. What material are they made of? Sturdy?Thanks for the props on the artillery. Built everything but the wheels.........whole nother other story..........
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 05:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Zip, what about building the cabinet bases yourself out of inexpensive 2x lumber and plywood, then installing custom-made mail-order cabinet doors to give the project the professional look you're after?

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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 07:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Homemade shelves and bench




Slatwall is great stuff!


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Tramp
Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 08:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jerry_Haughton sez:
"Zip, what about building the cabinet bases yourself out of inexpensive 2x lumber and plywood, then installing custom-made mail-order cabinet doors to give the project the professional look you're after?

FB
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+1

You could make your own cool doors w/plexiglass, so as to allow you to see where things are without having to open 'em all the time.
A blue-tinted glass would look really cool, as well, esp. w/a bunch of stickers along the sides.
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Kyrocket
Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 09:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 on a kitchen remodel. I had to remodel my own kitchen to get them though.
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F_skinner
Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Zip, they are made of that pressed wood material but are very sturdy as long as you mount them to a couple of studs in the wall. I am very pleased with them. It only took me an afternoon to put these up (about 6 beers).
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

waitwaitwait...you mean you're supposed to put stuff *away* in the garage? Damn....I have a set of old bolt bins along one side that hold most of my little stuff, my big stuff either hangs from the rafters or sits on top of the GLHS I'll never restore (apparently), and my tools end up either on the bench or on my 'crash cart'.

I have been keeping an eye out for some old metal lockers, though - be nice to keep the gear organized without having to drag it into the house (wife's domain) : )
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F_skinner
Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well Rat, I spend a lot of time in my garage and am tired of buying something that I already have because I can't find it.

I am always getting kicked out of Lynn's domain since she went back to school. So far I have a fridge, stereo and heater out there. Next is a urinal so I don't have to use a bucket.
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Babired
Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have stuff all over my Garage and yes next to the X1 is a 1943 Willys MB.


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Ulyscol
Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

F_Skinner,
Is that a toaster, I mean powder coat oven in your pics?
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F_skinner
Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yep... Handy little device..
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Frank - I'm just holding on until we can build. We have land, need that mythical bag of money to fall out of the sky so we can put up structures. The *wife-approved* (if you can believe it) plan is for my 40x60 garage to go up first. Power to the property hits this building first (can you say BIG panel?), then goes to the house. Radiant heat system in the slab. Running water with bathroom and kitchen rough-ins (in case we have to live in this building for a while, between selling our current house and building the new one). 9k lb automotive 2 post lift. Compressor. Attic storage. "Garag-mahal", LOL.

Till then...I'm OK with fumbling around trying to find *that* socket that I really need : ) And the only multiples I have are Dremels - got three of 'em, they always turn up AS SOON as I get home with the new one!
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Babired - we need to get your Willys and our M35A2 deuce and a half together for a pic sometime : )
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 11:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ratbuell has it figured out. Build the next size bigger than you can afford. I have a 65' clear span "drive in" basement and it's already too small. Course it's half full of construction stuff as well as the upstairs "regular" garage. In slab hydronic heat supplied by an outside wood burning boiler..........you can lay down on the floor and crash. Also have the "pot" poured in the slab for a single post motorcycle lift.The basement has two side rooms with three layers of shelving that are pretty much filled up and can get all five motorcycles in there for the Winter as well. Next is getting the cabinets figured out. Shelving is easy,but takes time if you stain and varnish everything....but worth it. This shelving should be 1/2 the way around the basement .........when done.........
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Zip, i now officially have garage envy.

put another way: you suck!!! :-)

as of last week i've now finished four custom work benches in my basement shop, and one custom work table, all built for stout, no nails, only screws, all with doubled-up 3/4" plywood for the top surfaces, said surface being capped with 3/16" hardboard secured to the top with a series of #6 x 3/4" perimeter screws.

this way, when the working surface of the benches or table inevitably becomes marred from abuse, i buzz out the perimeter screws with my screw gun, remove the damaged hardboard, lay down a new sheet, re-secure it with the screws, and voila! it all looks brand new.

i mention all this as an idea to anyone following along on how to maybe address making your shop's working areas "pretty" to begin with, but not too pretty to actually tear down an engine on or beat on a stubborn wheel bearing with your three-pound sledge.

with the above system in place, it's neat knowing that any time you want to you can have a brand-new work surface in about an hour, for the price of a sheet of hardboard (about $10).

now then, my REAL point: you mention above finishing your shelves with stain and varnish.

i, too, like my shop benches, tables, shelves, etc. to be "finished," altho stain is not important to me; i like the warmth and glow and grain of the bare wood (after copious hand-sanding) to show thru.

so, to finish my wood, and, as importantly, to protect the exposed hardboard working surfaces (which aren't really "fragile," per se, but do need some additional help to insure their longevity), i use Minwax polyurethane instead of varnish over EVERYTHING i build out of wood in the shop.

unlike Varathane brand polyurethane, which is SO strong smell-wise it'll run you (and your neighbors) out of your house (and theirs) for several days while it pops, the Minwax polyurethane is much, much milder from the smell standpoint and won't bother you or your better half too much while it cures.

and speaking of curing, Varathane takes forever to pop. the Minwax, on the other hand, will be dry to the touch in only a couple of hours, and ready to lightly scuff sand and apply the second coat in well less than twenty-four.

this stuff ("Minwax Fast-Drying Polyurethane Clear Semi-Gloss") is bulletproof after it's popped, and i highly recommend it for anyone wanting to lay down something quick and easy over your wood for additional looks and protection.

wow, sorry for the book-length post - the second cup of coffee is kicking pretty hard. :-)

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Oldog
Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i now officially have garage envy.

me too.

I have to work out of a self store now ( better than a parking lot though )

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Just_ziptab
Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Jerry for the "garage envy"! And especially thanks for the varnish tip.I have been struggling with that"pop" stuff. In my old place I built the work benches out of 4x4's and 2x12's.......all screwed together with slotted head wood screws(by hand,before torx head screws and De Walt..ouch). Full set of drawers underneath. Top was dark stained and given a coat of used engine oil. Has worked terrific over the years and any scars can be rubbed out with more used oil. This beater bench is SOLID,but my second one is even better. Made the frame out of and old car hoist I-beam......topped with a beautiful 8' sheet of 10 ga steel that has that hard black steel mill coating. The remainder of the bench has a 4' section of 2x12's "soft surface". The crown jewel is a NOS(new old stolen) Wilton vice that I picked up for $40.00. 6" reversible jaws and 14" opening. On the portable side stand,a 125 pound anvil. I will probably end up building wood benches for the new shack with your work surface idea.Do you want house envy too? The $10,000 a year I DIDN'T spend on the wife and kids for the last 26 years went here......................I could tell you I live on a lake,but it's just the 08 Spring flooding.......... Except for the finished shell,I'm doing it all myself.....what a hoot!
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

two words: SUH-WEET!!!

two more words: YOU SUCK!!!

makes my program look pretty amateur. :-)
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My old boss (now gone to the great farm & haulage yard in the sky) had a cannon installed in his back yard pointing out over his field, & used to set it off when the fancy took him, often at 2 or 3 am, when he'd just been poured out of his Range Rover after a session.
The cops eventually took him to court, he defended himself & had called all the local media in advance.
They accused him of having an unlicensed weapon, & creating a public disturbance, he rebutted it all by saying it was for scaring the birds off his field, & that being it was a "smooth bored weapon with a barrel exceeding 24 inches", it was technically a shotgun.
He walked to cheers & applause from everyone but the police.
Always loved sailing close to the wind though.



To return to the topic in hand, I use a mixture of old steel lockers, plastic storage cupboards, & even an old oak wardrobe.
My garage is always neat & tidy.

For about one day every 6 months, & then I can never find the thing I'm looking for & it goes back to the organic mess state where I can lay my hands on anything.
That is until madame throws one, & I have to spend a day sorting/tidying, & around we go again.
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mr. Grumpster, great story about your boss, thx for sharing. :-)

i've led a sheltered life - alas, no cannon stories - but i have set fire to plastic one-gallon milk jugs filled with a mix of oxygen and acetylene.

lends considerable credence to the Big Bang theory when they go off...

:-)
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Rpm4x4
Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2008 - 09:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I helped redo a kitchen and took the cabinets for payment.





I have another at the door for helmets.



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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

does anyone following along have any experience/advice on do-it-yourself garage floor coverings?

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Woody1911a1
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 09:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

try here jh

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/forumdisplay.ph p?f=20
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

wow, very cool link, thx! a garage-specific web forum? who knew?!?

what an amazing world we live in. :-)

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Woody1911a1
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yea seems there's a forum for just about everything . found that link on another board i belong to in this thread

http://www.jockeyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php? t=24243
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 09:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I painted the floor in one utility room with garage floor paint from Menard's. Washed the floor with soap and water. First coat was 50/50 mix of the paint and water.Second coat was full strength,applied a day later. Been down a couple of years, so far, so good........but it doesn't see much traffic. Is not supposed to leave tire tracks. A friend did his garage ,1/2 at a time. It left a parting/overlap line ..so you would want to do the whole thing in one shot to avoid that. Another friend laid down a black/white checker board design of floor tile to park his Harley on. It leaves tire marks and is always dirty looking. If I had to do it over again, I would pour the color dye in the concrete and then seal it. You can top coat the wet cement with dye, but it will scar.My driveway will be "dye in the cement" AND hydronic heated and with edge lamps cast in the cement. Red dye DOUBLES the cost of the concrete..........so the drive way will cost more than a new Buell(boo!)My back apron was poured and troweled to a gloss and then sealed. VERY slippery when snow is on it.Almost looks like polished granite.....
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Buellfighter
Posted on Friday, November 28, 2008 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



Probably won't make any issues of Better Homes and Garages but trust me it's all there.

And that's only the half of it.
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