| Author | Message | ||
     Lovedabueller |
Can you fix a blown shock. i was told by a local buell shop that you can only replace it. not repair it. is this true im in killeen texas and if anybody know a place to get it done.... PLEASE HELP ME... | ||
| Brinnutz |
Race Tech can repair them. But there's a couple of Tuber shocks on eBay right now that are brand new. Cost of reworking a shock will cost as much if not more than an eBay rear shock will. | ||
| Slaughter |
Shoot Traxxion.com a note. IT might not be cost-effective to fix it - but I THINK that it can be re-worked. Traxxion has a LOT of experience with Buell suspension stuff. | ||
| Littlebuggles |
Aftershocks in California will also rebuild and custom valve your bad shock. | ||
| Ratbuell |
As noted above, blown shocks can be fixed by a limited number of shops. I chose to go aftermarket on both my tubers, when they started going. Initial price was about the same, quality/adjustability is at least as good as OEM, and they (used Penske on one, new Works on the other) are user-rebuildable if you get a leak. Only thing you need at that point is a speed shop with a nitrogen tank, to repressurize it once you reassemble it with new seals. I also just dig the exposed spring look  | ||
| Slaughter |
If not rebuildable, you are really only talking about Works or Penske for your bike since you have an M2. I wouldn't get an old ebay shock - they're almost guaranteed to be thrashed. As I understand it, there ARE some New, Old Stock tuber shocks in circulation in dealer stock. That'd still be about the same price as a rebuild. About 4 months ago, I bought a Works to put on my S3 streetbike. No regrets. Not as painfully pricey as the Penske. | ||
| Tramp |
One point of divergence form Slaughter's above post- While Ebay shocks ARE likaly to be thrashed, the pre-recall White Bros. coil-over units for the early tubers can be had with VERY low mileage quite cheaply, I still prefer them, myself. | ||
| Brinnutz |
Except when they're brand new. | ||
| Tramp |
Good point, BN | ||
| Tramp |
Lovedabueller: what made you blow the shock in the first place?  | ||
| Guell |
Tramp, if i take a pic of my rear shock on my m2 could you identify it? I think its a white bros unit. He had the coil powdercoated black, its a long shock with a dial on rear that goes to 13 or the likes and a nitrogen cannister on the front with adjustments up to 5? | ||
| Buellfighter |
Hey Tramp, hook a brother up with a link to one of those pre-recall White Bros. coil-over units. | ||
| Danger_dave |
Yeah, I get blown it's a shock too. | ||
| Bigblock |
racetech rebuilt my recall replacement shock for 140 bucks tax and delivered! Seemed to work better than new afterwards, too. Kinda doubt you'll find a new one that cheap...( but you might get lucky...) | ||
| Tramp |
First- Bigblock's racetech plan offers the best and 'value X performance result' formula yet posted. I used to deal with racetech with many customer mods, and their attention to balance and 'emulation' is outstanding. That being said, those who know me are aware that I come from the school of: The more highly-skilled the rider, the more similarly she/he should be able to handle ALL scoots I do fine with those firm old White Bros. units. Peruse ebay (use 'Buell' and 'shock' as search terms, NOT 'white brothers'), and (nad I know this kills many of us to do this) attend a few 'swap meets' of the Harley-Poserson set. You'll find those sonsabitches, soon enough | ||
| Lovedabueller |
WEll first off after i had a chance to actually look at the shock it is indeed the reservoir that is the problem. i think a rock or something hit it causing the oil to leak form it. the cap (where the rebound adjustment is) is loose and is swiveling inside the case. so when i took it off and started to look at it. i could hear the nitrogen leaking out also. can you just replace the reservoir with an after market one.... can you hook me up with web links to some companies that sell new ones. | ||
| Tramp |
Toss that POS, unless you've use for a cool paperweight | ||
| Trojan |
the pre-recall White Bros. coil-over units for the early tubers can be had with VERY low mileage quite cheaply The recall was to replace the WP shocks because of actual suspension breakages, so that would be the very last choice of shock that I would consider fitting to my Buell and it is little wonder that they can be picked up cheaply. They should have been returned to the dealers who fitted the recall Showa shocks at the time and should certainly not be fitted. I spoke to one of the guys whose White Power shock collapsed on his S1W at 80mph, and it isn't something I would recommend. He was extremely lucky to have been 'cruising' in a straight line at the time and not thrashing his bike around the Lake District as he normally did. Fitting an aftermarket fully adjustable shock to your Buell will transform the handling and will be the best money you can spend on it. | ||
| Tramp |
actually, it wasn't exactly the shock, but, rather, the combination of incompatible metals at the 'eye' that prompted that extraneous recall, as I *recall*. Buell was both credited and criticized for an overly-anal approach to addressing equipment issues ion the mid-90s units, and the WB was part of that. Anti-seize assuages much of the bimetallic conflict at this contact point. The more dangerous issue during that epoch were the occasional total failures of link-rod engine mounting which occurred, albeit rarely, as a result of bushing wear. | ||
| Oldog |
The more dangerous issue during that epoch were the occasional total failures of link-rod engine mounting which occurred, albeit rarely, as a result of bushing wear. Please Elaborate Tramp My sled has developed an unusual "lope" at idle and accell the PT checks ok I am concerned that a machanical issue may be in the making. } | ||
| Lovedabueller |
This is BS. i just got off the phone with RACETECH. the have never rebuilt a shock to a 2000 m2 before. Has anyone seen this done PERSONALLY? can it be done. the cost of a new one is F^#%%@@ CRAZY. WHY WOULD BUELL DO THIS?????? making this non-rebuildable is the most retarded thing i have heard of. and some companies said it CANT BE DONE. As you can tell im really F@#$%^^& frustrated.......... | ||
| Tramp |
Like I said a few posts above, lovedabueller: "Toss that POS, unless you've use for a cool paperweight " By the way, while this fact offers no solution, I gotta remind you that it's not really Buell's fault; at the time of manufacture, their component suppliers offered what they could in terms of warranty replacement or rebuilding, and, since that time, the outside component manufacturers who manufactured your shock may have contracted (in the physical, not legal, sense) their services. Buell had no way of knowing this might occur, on the manufacturer's end, during the post-w period. Oldog- Your 'lope" i get them periodically) is likely resultant of a very-hard-to-see tear in one or more isolators than it is from a faulty linkrod. The linkrod failures go from creating more of a side-to-side imbalance, to giving up completely completely and allowing the engine to drop a bit- when this occurs at hiway speed, the results can be catastophic. It only seemed to plague a few limited years of Buells, though, in the mid-90s. (Message edited by tramp on November 25, 2008) | ||
| Brinnutz |
works shock in classifieds. | ||
| Lovedabueller |
OK. here is my final "RANT." EVEN if i go to buell and purchase a $570.72 brand new OEM shock that only has a warranty for 90 days. And i was told by the customer service rep. at HD that all harley buell shocks are non-rebuildable. THIS SUCKS so thats like money lost. and second if i buy a used shock of ebay or somewhere else and that seal goes bad then thats more money. so really my option with the least headache is to by a 600,700,800 dollar shock. hope the buell understands when its parked for months to save for a new shock. sucks a$$!!!!!!! | ||
| Brinnutz |
or buy the new shocks on ebay for 100-150 or so. like I said before. theres a 14.5" on ebay ending soon at $63 or so last I checked. There are so many alternatives. Um, just because they tell its not reuildable, you believe them? Its doable, if not companies wouldn't advetise that they rebuild them, now would they. Now, would you believe the shop if they told you chrome gets you home? Oh, and...I'm pretty sure they aren't 570 new. | ||
| Firebolt32 |
That $570 probably including installation as well. | ||
| Lovedabueller |
Actually i called hd and thats WITHOUT the install. Like i need a service man taking his sweet ass time to install a shock for 2 hours. thats what they told me it would be. and i am the highest bidder on that shock. but like everything else i want someone will outbid me at the last second. | ||
| Torqd |
All the Buell Showa Recall units are pretty much the same... maybe length and shock eye difference but the internal valving and the rebuild procedure should be the same... I had Racetech do my recall shock before I got a Pensky... Don't let them tell you otherwise. | ||
| Bigblock |
I sent my leaking and bouncy as all get-out rear showa shock, the one that Buell replaced on my 2000 M2, in to racetech, and they rebuilt it and sent it back to me, working better than it ever had. This actually happened, I saw it with my own 2 eyes, and did the r&r myself, not the first time I've messed with Buell shocks, either. So, I don't know if the racetech guy even knew it was a 2000, or what have you, he just told me to send it in. That's what I did. If they are telling you something different now, then I am sorry, but they definitely rebuilt mine. It still works great, and it's been back on the bike for about a year or more. | ||
| Brinnutz |
The people at the dealership told him they couldn't rebuild. Of course they can't. They don't! LOL It's an aftermarket deal, dealerships and Buell don't rebuild them... |
