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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 01:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here's a COG member in good standing who's built his own turbo kit for his old school Concours.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKHrObHWVIA
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 01:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cool video, thanks for sharing.
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Tramp
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 07:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've never ridden a shaft-drive motorcycle that couldn't wheelie...
GREAT vid!
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Brumbear
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 08:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had a V45 magna that could wheelie anytime you felt like it.
The video is cool though seeing a big machine like that in the air is pretty sharp
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Tramp
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Can anyone cite me a (running) motorcycle that will NOT wheelie?
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Boss Hoss.
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Tramp
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good point.
I am convinced that attempting to wheelie one of those motobortions would simply leave the rider underneath it, on its side.
That being said, however, I'd like to give it a try (in full Hockey gear, that is).
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Etennuly
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have seen a Boss Hoss with the front wheel off the ground. It is just one of those machines that you really might not want to wheelie.

A couple of years of riding with him also allowed me to see the demise of the Hoss when both wheels were in the air for way too long.
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Tramp
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The sheer misengineering of that mess seems to lend itself to hairy-ass torque rollover when either wheel is aloft.
Not to say I wouldn't give it a shot, but I'd be askeered, for sure.
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tramp, the Suzuki GS500. The only way to kinda wheelie was to dump the clutch from a standing stop, while your standing on the rear pegs. Even then, it was about the same amount of lift as you get going over a speed bump too fast. : )
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 02:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


xxXx


Like to see you wheelie ol' Roadog, pal.

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Djkaplan
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Can anyone cite me a (running) motorcycle that will NOT wheelie?"

I could not wheelie a CB200T I rode once in the 70's. I could have popped the clutch harder I guess, but the owner was there, so I didn't dog it.

I'd like another chance if anyone with a CB200T is reading this!
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Brumbear
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had a triumph speedmaster in 2005 I never tried to wheelie the POS but I doubt it would have done it. it was pretty long with a rake and underpowered heavy and had foward mounted controls. It might have but I don't think so
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Tramp
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 05:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Froggy- evidently, according to your own post, the Gs500 will, in fact, wheelie.

Bear in mind that dumping the clutch is not the only way top wheelie a tough-to-paw 'cycle.

PS- I did enjoy watching Frogger wheelie his Uly like every five minutes, way up high, last weekend
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Danger_dave
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>Can anyone cite me a (running) motorcycle that will NOT wheelie?<<

Triumph Scrambler
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Tramp
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 05:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

THAT is funny. Try keeping the front end down!
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New12r
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have seen a guy wheelie a Honda Rebel 250, anything can be wheelied except for that contraption Jon posted.
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Tramp
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2008 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rebel's a cinch to wheelie- My ex had one in Santa Clara, I used to take it to work at the shop, occasionally, for maintenance. It was really fun, and had no problem pawing the air.

I really caught sh|t for pulling outta the lot on it, though, from the sales crew...
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 01:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

All other things being equal, I like the porno music in this video clip.
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Bombardier
Posted on Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 03:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

K100 BMW - engine rotates the opposite direction to the driveshaft.

The crafty Germans have equalled the rotating mass of the engine and the clutch assembly/output shaft/driveshaft.

Zero torque effect from left to right of bike.
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Tramp
Posted on Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 05:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

All of the K-bikes wheelie easily enough, including the "Light Truck" (LT) series.

Diametrically opposed medialateral torque has little, if any, effect on rotational torque. IF there is any effect, it would be in increased rotational torque, due to the efficiency of decreased medialateral (That is, on the long axis) torque

I've wheelied every BMW model I've ridden (I used to work for the company, and has excellent access) with minimal effort, and anyone here can, as well.
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Etennuly
Posted on Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My shaft drive V65 Magna was very much like my Uly. Torque wheelies without clutching. I noticed in the Kawwe vid he was clutching it up.
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Dhalen32
Posted on Monday, November 03, 2008 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A few years ago I had a student do an awesome wheelie on a single cylinder Suzuki GN125. I did not think it was possible but she managed to do it several times. This season I had a student do a "brief" burnout on her Blast in a Rider's Edge class.
Dave
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Brumbear
Posted on Monday, November 03, 2008 - 04:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had a Honda express moped I could wheelie all the way down a block I actually think it was shaft drive I can not remember
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Tramp
Posted on Monday, November 03, 2008 - 04:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Why would a GN125 be difficult to wheelie?

http://www.granbymotors.co.uk/images/m/gn125_red.j pg
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Cyclonemick
Posted on Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had a Gs450 similar to the bike posted above, It has crashbars and a windshield and I could wheelie it! My friends all used to laugh cuz when I would wheelie it out of the parking lot at the high school! ...Memories...
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Shafties wheelie?

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Tramp
Posted on Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I know an very cool older Hells Angel whose scoot is a K1200LT (Light Truck), and he wheelies it effortlessly.
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Xb9ser
Posted on Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Got a friend with a honda valkirie interstate, has the windshield and bags. we call it the winnabago its so big. He wheeles it all the time.Froggy I vist gstwin site some as that is what my daughter rides and they claim if you drop front sprocket from 16 tooth to 14 it will power wheelie in second gear.
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Rainman
Posted on Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Diametrically opposed medialateral torque has little, if any, effect on rotational torque. IF there is any effect, it would be in increased rotational torque, due to the efficiency of decreased medialateral (That is, on the long axis) torque

Aw, heck. That's what I was gonna say, Tramp, but you beat me to it.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 08:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes and if I drop the front sprocket on my XB I can wheelie it in 5th. Point?

Gstwin rocks, some great info on that site, but I am glad I got rid of mine!
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Dhalen32
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 07:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Why would a GN125 be difficult to wheelie?

http://www.granbymotors.co.uk/images/m/gn125_red.j pg

Tramp:
Lack of hp and torque ...
Dave
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Tramp
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 07:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Minor HP and torque deficits are easily overcome through technique
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Brumbear
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 07:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

and jumps or cliffs
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