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Dynarider
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buell pays & sponsors Reg to put on b-trax events to showcase the buell lineup & hopefully to promote sales of the bikes. KTM does the same thing with Reg.

However were you aware that Buell will attempt to void your warranty for competing in these events?

I was flabbergasted when I found this out, freakin incredible.
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Awprior
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dyna,
Where did you find this info at?
Alex
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Dynarider
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Lets just say its from the top.
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Spiderman
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 07:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think those multiple Lowsides Voided My warranty LOL Sorry bro couldn't resist.
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Nevco1
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's ok Spidey...you can't sue for drain bammage either.

Hmmm....good thing I never raced my bike in BattleTrax. Was more fun waving the flags and watching anyway. You folks is hilarious to watch!
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Nevco1
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Any clue what KTM's position on BattleTrax vs their warranty is???

Seriously, if this is true, it stinks. Wonder if the dealers are aware that they could be considered part of a conspiracy to defraud you of your warranty???
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 10:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I got some ocean front property in Arizona. I'll sell it real cheap too.
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 10:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gees Blake,

HOW MUCH!!!!!

Trade ya for some Rain Forest here in Newfoundland!!!!!

The only way I'd believe that one is if I saw it in writing from the TOP!!!

Any retailer reps care to advise!!!
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Spiderman
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sweet Newf I'll be p in August to check it out.
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Dynarider
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 12:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Newfie & Blake, you dont believe me? Call Buell customer service & ask to speak with Randall.

This is no joke. Buell is denying warranty claims based on whether or not a bike has been used in B-trax. They claim its a "race" & bikes that have been used for "racing" have voided the warranty.

Blake if you want details, email me as I really cant go any further into this here on an open forum.
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Jim_witt
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 12:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake offered:
I got some ocean front property in Arizona. I'll sell it real cheap too.


Me too, it's called Big Surf in Tempe!

Big Surf

-JW:>;)
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Newfie,
There's a really big beach with lots of sand too.
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Nevco1
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Will trade house and fully developed lot in upscale Wisconsin suburb for comparable arrangement in Arizona. Surfin' Beach optional but desired.
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Nevco1
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

On the serious side, I wonder if BattleTrax is really considered a warranty voiding race?

Having observed four BattleTrax events this year I find this very hard to believe. However, there is always the possibility.

Can someone check this out? I would but I doubt if anyone would believe me if the results were negative. I feel someone with some credibility like "Anon" should investigate and advise.
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Court
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>>Can someone check this out?

It has, ergo Dyna's post, been quite throughly "checked out".

Any posting here should be considered a typical "internet discussion". A full understanding requires a full set of facts; beyond the scope of this discussion.
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Richieg150
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buell pays and sponsers to have Battletrax set up,then VOIDS their warranty on any person who rides their Buell in the event!HHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMM VERY VERY INTERESTING!
BUELL WARRANTY:EXCLUSIONS,This warranty does not apply to ANY motorcycle as follows:
1.Which has had any high performance accessories,or components installed or supplied by the Dealer or by any other person and which alter the manufacturers original equipment specifications,and any damage caused by the use of these accessories or components.
2.Which has not been operated or maintained as specified in the Owners Manual.
3.Which has been abused,altered outside of the original factory specifications,improperly stored or used "off the highway",for racing or competition of any other kind.
So,ANY ALTERATION OF ANY KIND,will give Buell the excuse to void our warranties!
I might add,My insurance company,American Family,also has an exclusion in it for motorcycle racing of ANY KIND!
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Ferris
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buell pays and sponsers to have Battletrax set up,then VOIDS their warranty on any person who rides their Buell in the event!HHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMM VERY VERY INTERESTING!

what Court said.
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Nevco1
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ahhh...the suspense is building...Can't wait for the final episode with the exciting conclusion to be aired.

In the interim, is it safe to assume that BattleTrax is not a warranty voiding situation for us mere mortals?

It seems to be a nice educational activity. Almost an extension of MSF and Rider's Edge type activities.

If not the appropo environment to discuss this topic, I guess the final episode will provide us with more finite detail.
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

evry company out there that sells a motorized vehicle voids the warranty for almost the same things. Lets go look at them shall we.

I bet the wording is almost exact.

I'd have more fun reading war and peace!!!!!!
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Richieg150
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The info I posted was Directly out of My Buell Owners Manual under WARRANTY INFORMATION!
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Court
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what Court said.
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am not contesting you. I am just saying this ain't just a buell thing. It is an evryone thing.

If you don't want to void your warranty don't go racing of any kind then.

but it does come back to dealer support most times.

Maybe I am crazy and stupid and all that.

I was always taught there are no guarrentees in this life. isn't a warranty a guarentee sort of.

Man I hate winter everybody has too much time to sit and think about stuff.

I myself have never ran battletrax and more than likely I won't. Its just not my thing. It looks fun and all its just not my thing. I like the open roads better.

maybe I am justa hard case. I have never worried about my warranty on anything I have ever bought and everything seems to be ok.

whatever this is gonna get goofy so I am done on this topic
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Nevco1
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Understood. Out.
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Ferris
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

doing my best Richieg150 impression here:

WHAT COURT SAID!
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Aaron
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This thread is funnier than the joke page!
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 01:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dyna,
<Sigh>... Your title of this topic and your statements above clearly imply that any Buell motorcycle that has competed in a Battle Trax competition will be denied warranty coverage. You and I both know that is extremely misleading, and simply untrue. If you ever want your statements to have credibility and respect you need to be honest. You are not being honest.
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Interchanging two words, "will" and "may" can completely alter the meaning and implications of a sentence.
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M2me
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

3.Which has been abused,altered outside of the original factory specifications,improperly stored or used "off the highway",for racing or competition of any other kind.

I would think competing in Battletrax would be grounds for voiding your warranty. Notice that even if your bike is completely stock and is used "for racing or competition of any other kind", that would void the warranty. Isn't Battletrax a competition?

I am sure that there are lots of people who have done Battletrax and still had their bike covered under warranty though.
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Ferris
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am sure that there are lots of people who have done Battletrax and still had their bike covered under warranty though.

doing my best Court impression here:

That is an acurate statmint! :)
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Reepicheep
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't know the details, but I bet I am still right...

I have tried to buy 3 houses. Two transactions went absolutely perfectly, the contracts and the lawyers were reviewed briefly, then never touched again throughout the transaction. The other transaction has a dishonest seller with an attitude. We excercised 80% of the clauses in that contract, and he took it in the shorts repeatedly. All sorts of fine print was triggered, but not until after the seller was changing contracts after the signature and lying about repairs done to foundation.

You go after Buell with an attitude and a lawyer, and they will probably respond with an attitude and a lawyer. All sorts of fine print that is not normally a factor suddenly comes into play. No suprise there. Good for them. The whining, trolling, and constant attempts to bring everyone down gets old.
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