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Slaughter
Posted on Friday, October 03, 2008 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Heck, even here in CA - they used to sell Universal M1 carbines (pieces of doo doo but hey, they SOLD them)

I got my first rifle - a single shot bolt action from them that I used in my first hunter's safety course.

Some things change. There may be reasons that people want to SEE the people that are buying the stuff.
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Buellgrrrl
Posted on Friday, October 03, 2008 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Aerostitch and Ten-Tec (ham radios) are examples of manufacturers that successfully sell direct to consumers, bypassing the middlemen. I worked at a Sears auto center back in the late 60s and we sold and serviced the Sears motorcycles. The customer could come in and buy one at the auto center or order it through catalog and have it shipped to his door. Often the price was lower through catalog, and they sometimes had some good deals- like an Austrian made Steyr bicycle for around $40 back in 1970.
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Crusty
Posted on Friday, October 03, 2008 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What kind of pizza is Glendale going to be serving?
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Slaughter
Posted on Friday, October 03, 2008 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's what I was wondering myself.

I have friends with Halal or Kosher considerations.

(Message edited by slaughter on October 03, 2008)
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Court
Posted on Friday, October 03, 2008 - 07:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey . . I'm helping a pal build a pizza oven in Brooklyn. We got crazy and bought a building (proceeds from HOG dividends) and found out that the building had one of NYC's very few and rare coal ovens. Finding out we were Grandfathered in (you may not build a new one) we decided to go with the flow and build a restaurant.

We're going to decorate it with Vespas. Long story but a relative was owed some money . . . guy couldn't pay and sent him 3 Conex boxes full of Vespa's from Viet Nam.

Pizza party at my place!

Hey chickipoo . . .we got a bet or not? Trying to recall the last time I've heard a gal so frickin' silent?
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Doerman
Posted on Friday, October 03, 2008 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

One pizza will fer sure be vegetarian.

And I would like pickled herring on mine.

(Message edited by doerman on October 03, 2008)
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, October 03, 2008 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sure Bomber, the Laverda is nice, but I was always more partial to Shirley ; )

Actually, there were Laverda's all over Mid Ohio vintage days. I would have LOVED to have a number of them.
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Friday, October 03, 2008 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the economy as a whole is down but the motorcycle dealerships are not! When talking to my dealer, he told me that he sold one less motorcycle in the month of May as compared to last years sales but then again, last year was a record year for them!

The dealer's showrooms are low in inventory of both new and used motorcycles right now. I haven't seen a Blast at any dealer all year. They sell as fast as they get them! It's a great motorcycle to help with the high gas prices.

As to the HOG stock, I think it would be a good buy if I only had some extra money to spend on it right now! Harley-Davidson has their act together and I feel they will rebound from the low stock market quite well!
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Crusty
Posted on Friday, October 03, 2008 - 08:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pizza party at my place!

I ride to New York City for BBQ. I'd Definitely ride to Brooklyn for Pizza! (Terri too!)

Where and when?
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Jaimec
Posted on Friday, October 03, 2008 - 08:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Any okra pizzas on the menu?
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Court
Posted on Friday, October 03, 2008 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ya'll are up on your "competing" and "complimentary", as well as "substitute" goods econ, right.

There are somethings that see increased demand in a weak economy. Personally, I think our economy is strong but I can see bike sales being bolstered as folks buy bikes as substitute for cars.

Im riding, as opposed to driving a truck, a couple days a week. Not entirely for that reason, but it's cool to top off a tank for $15 as opposed to $96.

Can ya think of a company better equipped that Harley-Davidson, having been through commercial hell in 1977, to deal with a shifting demand, economy and tailoring their product and strategies? I mean these folks have looked death in the face.
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Ironken
Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 12:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A $30,000 H-D to save gas....naaaa! A less expensive MORE fuel efficient Buell....sounds good to me. I'm gonna rush out and buy me a Buell......Oh, crap. I already have 2....oops.
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Slaughter
Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 01:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The 883 Sporties are sold before they hit the dealer floors, the 1200s are next. Chrome couches aren't selling as quickly but the high cost of fuel has been good to the Sportster line.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The big ones were selling this summer as a replacement to the big RV's. I would not want to be in the RV business through this economic climate.
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Cyclonemick
Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 01:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I once read the Vespa's from Nam are a hard to get ahold of???
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Danny_h__jesternut
Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hows about a Bike in a Box? Order on-line factory direct. Send me a crate for cheep azz $$$, with all the partz,bitz and peices, for a complete build of one Buell motorcycle. With a proper service and parts manual, I'll be riding in a week.
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Chellem
Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have to think that building the bike yourself would affect the warranty.

Just a guess.

Sucky or not, the average person needs a dealer to fix the bike. Especially warranty stuff. I suppose they could approve some shops to be warranty shops, and sell them parts and accessories - wait, that sounds like a DEALERSHIP.

I don't think the world is ready for factory direct motorcycles shipped toyour door yet. They do need PDIing, should be test ridden, and without ANY even infrastructure for dealer support, what do you do? Ship it back to Wisconsin when it breaks? Any shops that they designate would have to go through SOME level of training, I would assume. Which, again, kinda makes them dealers.

Not that I am against it in theory, I just don't think we're quite there yet.

->ChelleM
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Fatbook has bikes in a box. It would be interesting to see what their sales numbers are, even more what their 'registered' bikes are down the road.
How many times have you started a project full steam and life got in the way of completing it ?
I have a garage full of them.
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Brumbear
Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Didn't Dniepr do that with the URAL knock off's if there is such a thing cause a Ural is a knockoff but hey they did that bike in a box crap I am sure that didn't work out so good either.
Anyway when we heading into BROOKALEEN for suma pizza pie!!!!!!!!!
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Court
Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 08:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>>I once read the Vespa's from Nam are a hard to get ahold of???

How funny . . . they can't get them and we can't make them stop coming. Guy in Europe owed a relative some money he couldn't repay so . . . viola ! . . . VESPAS by the conex boxes.

Buell has done kit bikes 3 times in the history of the company . . . once officially.


Vespa



Vespa


Blake . . . you want to be the one to tell Pauly you can't pay him?

: )
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Cyclonemick
Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cool pic! Thanks court! I have always thought Vespa's were kind of cool! Is that a spare tire on the back?
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Court
Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When I was a kid I had my Vespa stripped to the bone . . . .side covers gone, always replacing the clutch cable, pretty much left it in 2nd gear and was not allowed to leave the yard.

By the time we moved from 1315 Campbell to 2107 Crest Drive I'd worn a rut around the entire yard that is vaguely visible today after some 45 years.

It's memories like that, going for rides on the Cushman 711 Highlander (now sitting in my office) and watching the "big guys" down the street with their Harley-Davidson and BSA 441 Victor, that hooked me into dreams of "just riding the motorcycle".

I'm less captivated with speed and some of the more salient attributes than I am the simple act of getting on the bike

Tomorrow I have a fun ride in my gun sights.

The Buell is unrivaled in this application.
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Crusty
Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 06:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Court; When you get to Wilmington, stop in at Dot's Restaurant.(Park in back) They have won the Vermont State Chili Cook-off more times than everybody else combined. It's at the intersection of Rt.9 & Rt.100.
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Nik
Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 06:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


We're going to decorate it with Vespas. Long story but a relative was owed some money . . . guy couldn't pay and sent him 3 Conex boxes full of Vespa's from Viet Nam.


Static displays are about the only thing those Nammers are good for. Please don't try to sell them or use them are ridable machines; all but the best are deathtraps, and the best are just polished turds. (they're basically multiple bikes welded together, mismatched engine cases, coke can shims, etc...)

I've got 1975, 77, and 79 200s; all sold new in the US and never left. Fun little urban weekend toys.
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Swampy
Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 09:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

DID SHE GO AWAY GET?
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jack (second oldest) has already worn a groove in the hill in the vacant lot across the street, three weeks after the neighbor got the XR-50. Ben (the oldest) has decided he wants to ride as well, so now I gotta scare up another bike. Shelly (the wife) is softening to the idea (though the budget isn't cooperating). Audrey (third oldest, only girl) said after her last wreck (due to insufficient suspension travel on the little electric dirt bike) that "if I had been on the red dirt bike, I wouldn't have crashed" between the tears.

This is going to get *good*!
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Buellgrrrl
Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Swampy, I'm sorry to report that HOG dipped below $30/share today. That's the lowest Harley stock has been since 1999. Meanwhile, I've got $10,000 cash sitting here looking for a new bike.
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Road_thing
Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Vermont State Chili Cook-off

Somehow, that just doesn't sound right.

What do they put in their chili in Vermont--maple syrup?



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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 01:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Funny that really sounds like a buy and hold opportunity to me.
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 06:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>I've got $10,000 cash sitting here looking for a new bike.

Or you could do like I did 2 weeks ago . . . take the $10,000 in the morning, bought Morgan-Stanly when it dipped near $12 and sold it in the after noon at $28.

Volatility (for a short time) is out friend. I moved all my 401K into indexes.

Hurry up though . . . because you're going to owe me some money on our bet. . . how many dealers have gone out in the last month.

Answer = ZERO

Chili in VT?

Huh?
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