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Valleyracing
| Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2005 - 11:44 pm: |
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Firemanjim
| Posted on Sunday, March 20, 2005 - 11:47 pm: |
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For those of us with bad eyes--what are the #'s? |
Valleyracing
| Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 12:06 am: |
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before 80hp/66tq after 95hp /100tq i'm trying to send better pic. |
Valleyracing
| Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 10:41 am: |
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sorry,theres a better pic |
Buell2001b
| Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 10:46 am: |
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I am clueless. I guess this shows you did somehting to a bike to improve its performance! if so what model and what did you do to it. |
Cruisin
| Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 10:54 am: |
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I know! I know! I'm guessing by the post title that this is for the Nallin's 1420 big bore kit for the XB's! I like that nice big peak of power down in the low end...Gotta start savin' my pennies! (Message edited by CruiSin on March 21, 2005) |
Jerseyguy
| Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 11:18 am: |
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Is the 12.6 A/F ratio the reading at 4000 RPM or is it an average that just got printed on the 4k graph line? That's a lambda of about .86 which is good for power. That little wiggle in the A/F line corresponds to the dip in the curves above. I'm guessing some fine tuning of the map could help flatten them out. |
99buellx1
| Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 12:47 pm: |
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From reading the dyno sheet. 2003 XB9R 1420cc Force Exhaust K&N Techlusion |
Ingemar
| Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 02:59 pm: |
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I think he put a 12 crank in a 9. The rev limit for the 2nd run is down to 6800. That's a nice A/F ratio graph. Actually one of the flattest I've seen. See what's possible with a techlusion. |
Newfie_buell
| Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 03:27 pm: |
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Don't take this the wrong way but I have seen dyno sheets posted here and on other websites with the 1250 kits and higher HP. I would have thought that the 1420 kit would have yielded more power. Is there something holding the motor back? |
Ingemar
| Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 03:52 pm: |
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I'd say it's by design. Just see how the hp peaks and falls back after 4000. Clearly not tuned for high hp numbers. |
M1combat
| Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 03:55 pm: |
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I think it's the Force pipe. I think the header tubes are too small for that much displacement at that RPM range. |
Spiderman
| Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 04:40 pm: |
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No the header tubes are fine, I went down a 1/4 inch in my header pipes and it works great, Decreasing the header diameter can increase gas velocity. I am kinda confused by a 1420 only makin 95 I have 93 with stock displacement, and XB heads and XB12 pistons. With the 536 cams I just put in I should top that 95 no prob. |
M1combat
| Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 04:58 pm: |
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I know they'll increase velocity at lower RPM's, but in the upper range you need to be able to flow volume... The force pipe is already tuned for a 984, so going to 1420 may be too much flow at the upper RPM's for the header diameter... Just my 2c though ... YMMV . |
Tim
| Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 06:36 pm: |
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How does STD HP compare to SAE? |
Court
| Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 07:19 pm: |
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>>>>I am clueless. Finally.....the truth comes out. I'd pretty well picked up on the clues.
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Wyckedflesh
| Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 08:11 pm: |
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That dyno is showing a 15hp gain and a 45ftlb torque increase. That is one hell of a steep torque curve. I myself would be VERY happy with that. |
M1combat
| Posted on Monday, March 21, 2005 - 10:22 pm: |
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My apologies... I was looking at that graph completely wrong. |
Ingemar
| Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 04:13 am: |
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Duh ... that's what I said all along. It's not tuned for ponies [but for torque] . Just raggin' on ya M1 .. |
Valleyracing
| Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 09:09 am: |
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sorry for not leaving info, STOCK XB9 BASE RUN,THEN INSTALLED 1420cc,NALIN BIG BORE, STOCK HEADS,& CAMS,XB12 CRANKSHAFT AND THROTTLE BODY, K&N FILTER, TECLUSION FI. HAVING A BAD STUMBLE @ 4000-5000 RPM CRUISING,WOT IT PULLS RIGHT THROUGH IT. GOING TO TRY PC TO SEE WHAT WE CAN GET OUT OF IT. I'LL LET YOU KNOW. |
Cataract2
| Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 09:58 am: |
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So, how does 100 ft-lbs of torque feel? |
Cruisin
| Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 10:13 am: |
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Hmmm...I'd imagine something like this:
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Ingemar
| Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 03:35 pm: |
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Hey is that Michael Jackson on the front row? |
X1tx
| Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 04:09 pm: |
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Nah. Still has a nose.........
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Cataract2
| Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 11:10 pm: |
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Hmmm, if that's what 100 ft-lbs of torque feels like. I wanna ride that bike. |
Bud
| Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 12:21 am: |
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it is really sick how fast a 1420 xb is my mate ( xb1420 ) pulled away from me ( xb9- bigbored 12 ) like i was driving a moped |
Noface
| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 07:33 pm: |
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I have a buddy with a 1203cc X1 that does the same thing. More or less a copy of Aaron's M2. Well over a hundred at the rear. Amazing how fast he can walk away from me doing a roll-on. |
Blake
| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 07:48 pm: |
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Yeah, I keep telling Aaron that he needs to try riding that beast down near sea level. He takes such a power hit up there in the thin mountain air that he doesn't really know what a beast that bike is to ride. I've ridden 130 rwhp Buells at near sea level; that was a serious wake-up call concerning throttle control. |
Richieg150
| Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 06:37 pm: |
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I must be missing something.If I'm reading the dyno sheet correctly,the bike went from 80.8 to 95.5 RWH,and 66.8 to 100.8 on torque.I was thinking the RWH should have been 120+ with that set up.You will get more RWH than that with a NHRS 1250 kit.So,my question is why is it so low on RWH? |
Valleyracing
| Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 07:46 pm: |
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this bike only has a pipe and big bore kit. no head work ,not even a valve job. stock cams just the xb12 throttle body ,force pipe, k&n. 50lb more torqe & 20 hp @ 4000 hang on!!!!! |