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Bads1
Posted on Friday, August 08, 2008 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Stupid bastard.

Your funny.... The Jets have a very good running game in which Favre compliments that very well. The Jets were 75 to 1 on going to a SB. Now that the Jets took Favre in trade. THe odds are now at 15 to 1. These are the facts.
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Damnut
Posted on Friday, August 08, 2008 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The facts are they are NO WHERE NEAR as good as the Patriots, even with Brett. THAT IS A FACT. I don't care how good you THINK Brett is, he isn't going anywhere in the AFC East. Come on Dana you can't be that in love with him and I know you ain't all that dumb.
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Bads1
Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 12:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anything can happen.... that was just seen last year. The Patriots lost the SB to the team that got in the play offs on a Wild Card. I'm not dumb. I watch Soooooo much Football that your head would spin.
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 12:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

he isn't going anywhere in the AFC East. Come on Dana you can't be that in love with him and I know you ain't all that dumb.

That's why everyone on the NFL network is saying the Jets will now be a legitimate playoff contender? You may want to hear what the pros are saying, before sticking your foot that far in your mouth.

I'm not in love with Favre, but he has been the most entertaining QB to watch ever IMHO.
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Damnut
Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 12:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Come on Dana please. The Giants where good last year and my Patriots had their heads up their asses during the SB. The last game of the season proved that the Giants could play with the them. The SB was no fluke, remember they won ALL of their game on the road against quality opponents, including your beloved Packers. I watch plenty of football too my friend and since I am a Patriots fan I think I know the AFC East a little better than you. Brett has NO chance in the AFC East and I am willing to put my money where my mouth is on this one, are you????

(Message edited by damnut on August 09, 2008)
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Damnut
Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 12:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

NFL so called experts are like weather men, they are right 50% of the time. And that isn't saying much when there are only 2 teams to pick from.


Like I said, I am willing to put my money where my mouth is, are you??
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Bads1
Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 12:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

NFL so called experts are like weather men, they are right 50% of the time

If they are only right 50% of the time. Then I guess you are saying you know more then they. Atleast that how you read to me. Let me tell ya something that maybe I can get some credability for. I watch enough Football NFC,AFC, and college you'd choke. My life changes in another week that by half way through season I can't wait till it ends because I'm seriously wore out from it. I wouldn't go so far as to say you know more then me. Thats a bit harsh considering I have to entertain a bar full of football fanatics. You learn alot from some that know enough they'd bet there house and wife on it. Favre has to settle in and he doesn't have alot of time. He also has a ton of distraction right now with the media. The Pro's are saying they have play-off contention that is true. We'll see. I'm a Packer Fan not a Jets fan. I'm a Favre fan. I wish Brett well and hope he can give a couple awesome years to the Jets and let NY fans see what I got to see for 16 years.
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Damnut
Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 01:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

no I don't know more than they do but I do know this THE JETS ARE NOT AS GOOD AS THE PATRIOTS AND THAT'S A FACT!!! EVEN WITH BRETT. While the Jets will be better with him they still have to play the Pats twice and they are not even close to being as good as them. And don't forget Indy and Pittsburgh are in the AFC. The Jets will be LUCKY to make the playoffs this year. They sure as hell ain't going to win the AFC East. Would you like to wager on that??

I'm willing to make the same bet with you that I made with Buellina the last 2 years. A HD shirt from my local, dealer for a HD shirt from yours. How good do you think the Jets will be this year??

Oh and by the way I actually lost my bets with Buellina. I am a man of my word and WILL come through if I lose, just ask John.
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 08:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A.) Nobody said they were better than the patriots
B.) Nobody said they were going to win the division.

But, keep in mind, the Jets gave the Patriots fits late in the year. And that was last year, without Favre, without their improved offensive line, etc... And what have the Patriots done in the off season?
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Damnut
Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A.) Nobody said they were better than the patriots
B.) Nobody said they were going to win the division.


1)The Jets have a very good running game in which Favre compliments that very well. The Jets were 75 to 1 on going to a SB. Now that the Jets took Favre in trade. THe odds are now at 15 to 1. These are the facts.

2) That's why everyone on the NFL network is saying the Jets will now be a legitimate playoff contender? You may want to hear what the pros are saying, before sticking your foot that far in your mouth.


You guys keep mentioning the "Pros" so I'm taking it that your in line with them, right? And I'm the one sticking my foot in my mouth?? HA HA your funny. You guys are quoting that the Jets have 15-1 odds in making it to the SB. It's not me using the Jets and the Super Bowl in the same sentence. It's not me stating the Jets are Playoff contenders. How do you think they are going to get there? A) Win the division or B) Wildcard.

So which is it? Wildcard or Division champs?

They sure as hell aren't winning the division. How do I know? Am I an expert? NO!! But I did and have looked at the Patriots schedule, have you??? If not I suggest you do. Actually I'll save you some time:

Sun 9/7/2008 1:00 PM vs Chiefs
Sun 9/14/2008 4:15 PM @ Jets
Sun 9/21/2008 1:00 PM vs Dolphins
Sun 9/28/2008 vs Bye
Sun 10/5/2008 4:15 PM @ 49ers
Sun 10/12/2008 8:15 PM @ Chargers
Mon 10/20/2008 8:30 PM vs Broncos
Sun 10/26/2008 1:00 PM vs Rams
Sun 11/2/2008 8:15 PM @ Colts
Sun 11/9/2008 1:00 PM vs Bills
Thu 11/13/2008 8:15 PM vs Jets
Sun 11/23/2008 1:00 PM @ Dolphins
Sun 11/30/2008 4:15 PM vs Steelers
Sun 12/7/2008 8:15 PM @ Seahawks
Sun 12/14/2008 4:15 PM @ Raiders
Sun 12/21/2008 1:00 PM vs Cardinals
Sun 12/28/2008 1:00 PM @ Bills

Looks like a pretty easy schedule to me with 4 maybe 5 tough games to play. And with the Colts and Pittsburgh in the AFC they are going to have a very hard time winning any wildcard. Do you agree with that statement or not??

I stated that I though Brett made a dumb decision by going to the Jets. I THINK he should have gone to TB. Just MY opinion. in MY opinion the Jets aren't going anywhere, even with Brett on the roster. I stated that Brett was a stupid bastard for going to NY and Dana chimes in with "The Jets are 15-1 in going to the SB. I take that as he thinks they are going to be some kind of overnight success now that they have Brett. Isn't going to happen, sorry. He is going to get killed in NY.

And what have the Patriots done in the off season?

What do they need to do? Not much really. Brady, Moss, Welker and Maroney are all we need for offense. We lost Samuel but look where he is now, hurt. The Pats are STILL one of the best teams in the NFL and that's a fact.



Come on guys do you REALLY think the Jets are going to do something this year?? I would be shocked if they finish 7-9.


Oh and here's the Jets schedule for the year. IN MY OPINION, I see 6 maybe 7 very tough games for the Jets. And the rest of the schedule I would say it's a coin flip.

Sunday, 09/07/08 @ Miami
Sunday, 09/14/08 New England
Monday, 09/22/08 @ San Diego
Sunday, 09/28/08 Arizona
BYE BYE
Sunday, 10/12/08 Cincinnati
Sunday, 10/19/08 @ Oakland
Sunday, 10/26/08 Kansas City
Sunday, 11/02/08 @ Buffalo
Sunday, 11/09/08 St. Louis
Thursday,11/13/08 @ New England
Sunday, 11/23/08 @ Tennessee
Sunday, 11/30/08 Denver
Sunday, 12/07/08 @ San Francisco
Sunday, 12/14/08 Buffalo
Sunday, 12/21/08 @ Seattle
Sunday, 12/28/08 Miami


Oh and one more thing........

I watch enough Football NFC,AFC, and college you'd choke.

You may watch but are you paying attention???
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Bads1
Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've had schedule for over a week and a half.

You may watch but are you paying attention???

I'm in the bar biz that we grill every Packer Game and cater to sports fanatics. If I don't pay attention I lose business. These people like to go to a place then really pay attention to the Sport. I pay attention more then you may realize.

As far as the Jets 15 and 1 ??? Those are the odds set in Vegas. Which ESPN and other Networks go off of. Looks like you aren't paying attention. So its not Steve
or I trying to give you a bunch of Bullshit....its the odds. I could careless
how well they do. Damnut I listened to you bag the Packers last year and Brett as far as thats concern. The Patriots are a awesome team but so are many others. We'll see how the whole season plays out. Let me know when you become a Sports Broadcaster or even a Sports analyist.
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Damnut
Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 06:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dana oh Dana...... Where in my post do you see that I wrote the Jets would be 15 AND 1????? 15-1 yes are the odds that you mentioned. Go back and read my original post, wait I'll post it for you.

"Ok here'e my take. What's he gonna do in NY? NOTHING!!! He is in the same division as the Patriots. He was better of going to TB. They are a WAY better team then NY. He is going to get his ass kicked in the AFC East. Stupid bastard."

It was you and Steve that jumped on my case and all I was saying that I thought he was better off going to the Bucs. It was YOU GUYS that where stating that the Jets where going to be some kind of "great" team next year with comments like "Playoff Contenders" and "15 TO 1 odd in going to the SuperBowl". After statements like that, which I think are laughable, I wanted to give you MY OPINION and saying that I THOUGHT that was not going to happen. And I still stand behind that statement 100%. So much so that I am willing to place a friendly wager on it, are you?? Since you guys think that I'm wrong, cause you watch so much football that my head would spin and Steve is quoting the NFL Network's experts like their word is gold, it should be like taking candy from a baby.

I never claimed to know more about football than anyone, that was you. I did however claim to know more about the AFC East than you, which I still believe since that's the only division that I give a shit about. I may be wrong though, you may know the AFC East than I.

I like to know what you think the Jets record will be next year. And please give me your opinion, not what the NFL Network guys think.

And as far as "bagging" the Packers you must be thinking of someone else, not me my friend. If you can find information that states otherwise I will be the first, unlike a lot of people on this site, to eat my words and apologize.

I don't have that big of an ego to say that I am wrong but I am not in this case. I still stand behind my original statement to say that the Jets will go no where next year, sorry. But we'll just have to wait and see now won't we.

Good luck with your new QB next year in GB, I think you'll need it.
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Bads1
Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 06:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The odds are the odds. Thats what is out. I didn't come up with them. But I do believe they could do Play-Off's. I'm more concerned with the Packers. They have and this is true. Maybe the youngest most talented team in the NFL right now. Rodgers is damn good as long as he stay's healthy. If he doesn't it'll be Thompson that gets his Ass handed to him. Thompson has built a incredible team. I just hope that taking Favre out of the picture was the right one.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There's that 17-1 team and the Giants are the champs.

I think the Bills are a show too.


(Kidding)
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Damnut
Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dave your funny.. It has been 7 months and it STILL stings. Thanks for reminding me of the 17 AND 1, your the best!!!



It's going to be interesting to see how Rodgers handles the pressure now that the team is all his. Especially with you crazy cheeseheads as fans, no pressure Aaron no pressure, yikes!!
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Bads1
Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

He's got alot of pressure. But Aaron seems to be taking it well so far. Time will tell. Favre would maybe the better choice now. But I also believe that Aaron is damn good. The thing of it is though.... Is the Packers were not going to have future with Brett.
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Damnut
Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 07:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They HAD to pull the trigger on Rodgers sooner or later. I think the Pack would be better with Brett but how long can you have Rodgers riding the pine?? With the amount of pressure on the kid in GB, you may have the next Tom Brady on your hands but then again, with all the pressure, he could easily turn into another Ryan Leaf...........

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Bads1
Posted on Saturday, August 09, 2008 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If he has a good season. Then I think the pressure will be off. To tell you the truth. Alot are behind him here.
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 03:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes. Ted was the GM in 2005. Same year as Rodgers was drafted.
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Monday, August 11, 2008 - 05:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BTW, going back a few posts. I don't
care how Rodgers got hurt. The fact is he WAS hurt 2 out of 3 times. How many times was Favre hurt that he couldn't start a game?
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Tuesday, August 12, 2008 - 08:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rodgers didn't look half bad last night. Give him more reps and he may be fine. Seemed to handle pressure ok, but he's gotta find touch on his long ball.

I'm sure his performance gave Favre incentive to play well in practice today.
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Bads1
Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocco... kinda got bad news for ya. You or I will never see a Brett Favre in our generation most likely. Aaron is Aaron,Brett is Brett. If Brett had a fracture ankle ..... sorry we would see him the rest of the season. Aaron did look pretty good. He was very sharp. I think the Pack may do very well. If not.... CHOP Ted Thompsons head off. Rocco where do you get 2 out of 3 times???
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Bads1
Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes. Ted was the GM in 2005. Same year as Rodgers was drafted.


Whats the point in that really.... The whole team right now,pretty close anyways is Thompsons. Favre is gone and I'm a Packer Fan. Aaron deserves a chance.
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ya gotta like the fact that Aaron got a standing ovation from the crowd as he stepped on the field. He looked pretty good for his 1st start.

But Brohm sucked IMHO. Lets *REALLY* hope Aaron doesn't get hurt!
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Bads1
Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Brohm is suppose to be really good. I hope he shows better in the future pre-season games. Someone did say though that Aaron needed to shave that beard. I guess he was saying he looked to much like Brett by having it.lol
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Whats the point in that really....
The point is Favre was ASKED to leave by Thompson. I don't believe for one second that he ever really wanted to retire. Thompson wanted HIS QB.
I hope Rodgers does great. He better, considering he gets a 13-3 team handed to him.
Personally, I think they will win their division. Not because they're that great, but because their division is that weak.
Time will tell. We shall see how well Rodgers is accepted by Green Bay fans. I suspect if it goes poorly, he's going to have a really hard time.
I do think it's funny as hell that Thompson has to have extra security right now.
2006-Rodgers out with a broken ankle for rest of season.
2007-Rodgers out for 2 weeks with a pulled hamstring.
Let's hope it doesn't continue.
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Bads1
Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2008 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Whats the point in that really....

The point is though that the whole team pretty much has been built with Thompson's signature. So singling out the QB isn't what makes the team. Rocco I don't feel to much different then you do about the situation but Favre had two season's left under contract then the Packers then he'd be gone. The team would have to start over with a new leader and sometimes that can create more issues then help. Favre retired by choice. He may have been pushed to do so but in the end nobody was holding a gun and saying that he had to. He was under contract it was his choice. I see both sides in the story and both are wrong in some way's. Right in other's.
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2008 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

has any professional football team ever started the season with a new quarterback that has never started a game in the NFL and his two back-up quarterbacks are both rookies?
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Bads1
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2008 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Seriously..... Didn't Brett Favre. If I remember they put him to cover there injured first string and the rest is history.
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Socoken
Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2008 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Favre was a drama queen who wanted every one to BEG him to come back. When they didnt BEG him to play again, he said he didnt feel welcome, his mom told the media Ted wanted him gone.

When Brett changed his mind the first time, back in MARCH, the team was planning a huge press release party in announcement of his return. At the last second, Favre said, "nah, Ive changed my mind. Im not coming back."

When he did it again, AFTER the packers drafted with him out of the picture, no. There was no way the team should have to bend over and itself so some egomaniac can have his way. They didnt want him in the division, so they traded him away. McCarthy and Thompson handled it as best they could with the future of the franchise in mind.

Damnut, the Patiots are aging, and the Giants showed that a great pass rush can rattle Brady and make him look foolish. Their riegn is over. They signed John Lynch for crying out loud! What is he, 100? Besides, now that cheating has been outlawed, the Pats have lost that edge. Ill bet you that T shirt the Jets win the division.

Oh, and the only FACTS in football are history.

(Message edited by socoken on August 16, 2008)
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