| Author | Message | ||
     Buellinachinashop |
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| M2statz |
When Favre retired(the first time) McCarthy tried to get him to stay, #4 said his mind was made up! Thus the tearful display on the 24hr Favre network. 3 weeks after that Brett called Thompson and said he wanted back in, Murphy, Thompson and McCarthy are on their way to Mississippi when #4 calls and says after talking to his wife he is really ready to retire now. Giving them no other position but organize the summer camps around the current players because Favre is NOT coming back. Who is to blame? Like Bads1 said both sides have dirt on their faces. I think Ted Thompson is done in GB. I have never liked him. I wish Favre the best but one man does not make a team(he helps a lot)but I am truly a Packers fan no matter who is on the team. | ||
| Bads1 |
Rocco, Rogers is prone to get hurt??? Why because a guard stepped on his ankle and fractured it??? Thompson has yes pushed Bret out by asking for a decision ASAP. Thompson in some ways was correct. He has built a young and very talented team NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. He also has a QB that still is good but also only has retirement on his mind and may only play for two years. This team would not grow long term with Brett. At the same time Brett could maybe give them another SB.... maybe. But after that then this team of ours would have to settle in with a new QB regardless. My take on Thompson is??? If his new team does not go into the Play-offs atleast part way. Thompson's job will be fired. (Message edited by bads1 on August 07, 2008) (Message edited by bads1 on August 07, 2008) | ||
| Cyclonedon |
my question is if the Packers start the season off 0 & 3, will the public lynching be televised? | ||
| Doughnut |
what will everyone say if they go 3-0? | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
"my question is if the Packers start the season off 0 & 3, will the public lynching be televised?" I'm in charge of bringing the rope "what will everyone say if they go 3-0?" I'll buy a Rodgers jersey | ||
| Bill0351 |
I haven't been this upset since Vinnie left the OCC crew. Bill (Green Bay) | ||
| Doughnut |
I feel bad for Rodgers. If he isn't as good as faver, people are going to get on him. If he is good, I don't think he'll get any credit for it. If he is good, just not as good as Favre, then he will still be no good. Seems like he will not get support from anyone no matter what. Guess this will seperate the Packer fans from the Favre fans. | ||
| Badlionsfan |
I haven't been this upset since Vinnie left the OCC crew. Vinnie left OCC? Why? Guess I haven't watched in a while. Ok, on to Favre. BadS1 is a homer, so we can discount his opinion (j/k Dana). This is/was a hot mess that could've been avoided. Favre has acted like a total prima donna the last few years, needing his ego stroked by flirting with retirement. I've lost respect for Brett because of all this flip flopping. I know it's hard to walk away from the only thing you know, but that's why I respect guys like Barry Sanders and the like who made the decision to retire, walked away, end of story. Now to the Packers. For the first time in years, my Lions front office isn't the joke of the NFC, thanks Ted! Instead of being up front with Favre that they wanted to move on and were done playing Favre's game every off season, they decided to play chicken with him, and look like amateur hacks for doin so. Now I'm no Packers fan, but as a fan of the pathetic Lions I always respected the organization. This is a move that will make or break the front office, and only time will what will happen. | ||
| Bads1 |
Well I can say that I haven't missed one game in 8 years. LOL | ||
| Cyclonedon |
"what will everyone say if they go 3-0?" that's not going to happen so there isn't any need to worry about what they are going to say! | ||
| Schmitty |
The Packers F'd up by pressing Favre into a decision he didn't want to make that soon. Favre F'd up by holding the franchise hostage over the past few seasons, and airing his dirty laundry on a nationally televised interview. Overall, there are a lot of very big egos involved here. We all know about Thompson's ego, but this has proved that Favre's is also bigger than a lot of people may have thought. There has been mention here of the Packers and the fans forgetting about what Favre has done for the team. What about what the fans have done for Brett Favre. Never once during this ordeal has he thanked the fans for their support. They have done so much for his charities over the years, not to mention the support they have given him and his family. I seem to remember a pill addict whose fan support never wavered. What about when his wife was diagnosed with cancer? The outpouring of support for her, and the money raised through sale of her book, and the pink Packer hats was incredible! Any way you look at this both sides can be faulted. I wish him the best, but he's going to a team that's something way short of stellar. He's also going to one of the toughest sports cities to succeed in. He will be under a huge microscope. If they don't at least make the playoffs, the Jets fans will be calling for his head! Schmitty | ||
| Bads1 |
If they don't at least make the playoffs, the Jets fans will be calling for his head! No they won't. A QB doesn't make the team. They frigg'n went 4 and 12 last year. If anything Brett will be a huge help in a better direction. Never once during this ordeal has he thanked the fans for their support. He has time and time again as did his Wife and Family. He doesn't need to repeat that. This isn't about his fan's. This is about his job and its all been topsy turvy as of late. | ||
| Badlionsfan |
Root for the name on the front, not on the back of the Jersey. Figured that out several years ago, makes for a much less stressful fan. | ||
| Azxb9r |
I agree with slaughter on this. Favre waited untill just before training camp the previous season to anounce that he was going to play. When the season was over he said that he was retiring, so the Packers went about moving on, and building the team around Rodgers. For Favre to show up just before pre-season, and say that he wants his job back is B.S. He should have said something a few months ago. I thought that the Packers giving him the opportunity to compete for the job was a good move... it at least would have been fair to all involved. I hope that Aaron Rodgers does well, I enjoyed watching him when he played for Cal, and he has been very professional through Favres "indecision" over the past couple years. | ||
| Bads1 |
Easy to be a critic but there are some questions that McCarthy and Thompson dance around when asked. Favre compete for his job??? Kinda a joke. | ||
| Azxb9r |
One would expect Favre to be able to win the competition, but at least the other people involved would know that they had the opportunity. On the other hand, if he could not win the job, that should make being in a back-up role easier to swallow. The whole scenario is disappointing. When a great athlete (regardless of the sport) comes to the end of their career, it can sometimes be a bit difficult. Sometimes they quit too early...sometimes they stay too long...but when you tell your team that you are retiring, you have to expect them to fill your old position. | ||
| Lake_bueller |
You don't even want my opinion! Although I'm sure a few wouldn't be suprised (Message edited by lake_bueller on August 07, 2008) | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
Favre was gone way before the talk of a competition came up. His quote was something like.."me going up there after reinstatement was a formality." They offered him the opportunity to compete for his job, which was a right thing to do, and he said no. I have a feeling if they offered him the starting job, he'd have still said no. | ||
| Steve_mackay |
Come on Dennis! Give us your opinion. You have a unique perspective on the situation I'm sure. | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
Well, I broke down and had to order my Reebok Authentic.........  | ||
| Krassh |
Interesting article on the Favre and McCarthy's relationship. http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d809d2e9b& template=with-video&confirm=true Couple Quote's: "I thought it was over when Favre gave interviews early in this process where he said Packers general manager Ted Thompson was someone he could not trust and that he had pushed the Packers hard to hire Steve Mariucci over McCarthy." "All of last season, McCarthy preached to Favre that less could be more and asked for a more disciplined approach that would reduce Favre’s 29 interceptions from the previous season. The gunslinger had his holster stripped. Favre went along, reluctantly. Then with some enthusiasm. All the way to the NFC Championship Game." "Then the old Brett -- the one with the bad habit of taking too big of a shot at too small of a time -- emerged. Corey Webster preyed on that forced, ill-advised Favre throw. Game over. Season over. The way the Packers finished was everything McCarthy had tried to prevent." | ||
| Bill0351 |
That was a good article. It put things into perspective. It sounds like Brett was losing his ability to be a team player, and thought he was above taking coaching. There was also an interesting segment on Jim Rome today about this subject. Everybody liked the story of a great player retiring healthy and at the top of his after a long successful career. Nobody likes a story of a pampered athlete having a temper tantrum. To turn it toward motorcycles... It's almost like Harley Davidson. There will come a time that they need to cut the ties to their aging customer base and go with a risky new approach. I don't know if it's a valid comparison, but I thought I would throw it out there. Plus I care a lot more about motorcycles and American/Wisconsin jobs than I do about pro football. Bill | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
Control Freak vs. Wild Gun Slinger = MESS I think last season showed pretty damn well that Favre could be a team player. Take a guy who basically carried mediocre teams for 13 of 16 years and tell him to "do it my way", it'll take a little bit, but Favre showed he could buy into a system...and did he it. | ||
| Krassh |
Until the end he did. "Then the old Brett -- the one with the bad habit of taking too big of a shot at too small of a time -- emerged. Corey Webster preyed on that forced, ill-advised Favre throw. Game over. Season over. The way the Packers finished was everything McCarthy had tried to prevent." | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
1 pass in -20°F doesn't a season make. | ||
| Danger_dave |
I watched the big tuna talk about 'entitlement' once. About how a player's expectations and what they think they are entitled too changes over time and with success - and how he managed it. TO eg. It struck me as quite an epiphany. The spiel works for helping managers in the corporate sector too. | ||
| Bill0351 |
"1 pass in -20°F doesn't a season make." ...but it does a season end. Bill | ||
| Krassh |
+1 | ||
| Damnut |
Ok here'e my take. What's he gonna do in NY? NOTHING!!! He is in the same division as the Patriots. He was better of going to TB. They are a WAY better team then NY. He is going to get his ass kicked in the AFC East. Stupid bastard. |
