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Xl1200r
Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/07/31/canad a.bus/index.html
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Geez.
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Swampy
Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And I am the friendly neighborhood bus inspector in Michigan.

I've seen alot, but never that!
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Igneroid
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 12:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yep. We got alot of sicko's up here in Canada. The report I read on MyTelus this morning about the incident claimed the killer displayed his victims head to the other passengers outside. Makes Jack Nicholson's "Shining" seem tame....
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Mr_gto
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 02:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

People like that need to skip jail and go straight to the gallows. If he is executed i will be surprised... O wait you can commit a sick crime like this in Canada because their is no death penalty! I read this also from the National Post, "The trio saw the attacker on top of his victim, clearly working to remove the man's head and "gutting him like an animal," according to Mr. Caton"
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Firebolt32
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 03:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And this would be why I don't take public transportation. You never know who the hell your sitting next to.
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Tramp
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 07:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Read about Karadzic if you'd like a definition if "sick".
....and then consider that what you're reading is the cleaned up, printable version (!!!)
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Buellfighter
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Clearly not in his right mind and therefore not subject to the death penalty. We get to take care of him for the rest of his life. pos
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Rick_a
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They will have to instill a national knife ban immediately.

I recall sitting at a bus stop and having a guy tell me how he liked robbing old white women and why, and how he could pick out which ones had money and determine which women wouldn't put up a fight.
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Ratyson
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 09:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What a friggin wack-job. Man I feel sorry for that victim, and the other folks on the bus.

One thing I am having a bit of trouble with is, out of the 37 people on that bus, none of them attempted to stop this guy????
I wasn't there, so I have no idea of the exact situation... but there were 37 people on that bus, and this dude was left alone with his victim as he sawed the guys head off with a butcher knife...
I am at a loss.
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Tramp
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Unless he's a chef, his carriage of that knife will provide some argument for his intent.
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86129squids
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 09:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Evil and sick mindsets can be found anywhere- witness the church shooting just up the road from me in Knoxville.

At the most inclusive church I know of.

During a children's performance.

All good folks must remember to fight the good fight, try to counteract things that lead us to darkness.

Namaste, y'all...
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Swampy
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You ask why no one tried to stop this guy?

Well, we live in a polite society and no one wanted to interfere in the mans work?

The other folks became paralyzed with disbelief as the murderous scene played out?

Firebolt32, don't forget, the public transportation that you will not ride on would also include the airlines and railroads.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

One thing I am having a bit of trouble with is, out of the 37 people on that bus, none of them attempted to stop this guy????

I was thinking the same thing as I was reading it.

The only thing I seem to remember was maybe the victim yelled out to get off the bus or something? Maybe it was the guy sitting near him.

But I can't tell you how many times I've been on a Greyhound bus (I actually started using them right after a passanger walked up beghind a driver and slit his throat) or airplane, and consciencly thought about if I would apprach a passanger with a knife. Each time I think I would.

People are generally sheep - if one person had jumped on to help, every other guy over 150lbs would have been there with him.

BUT - as you said, none of us were there, so none of us can really judge. Maybe the guy had done enough damage in the first couple stabs that just getting off the bus was in the best interest of everyone.

Godspeed to the folks on the bus and to the victim.

The killer can go to hell for all I care. Not everyone can be "fixed" with a little therapy.
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Ratyson
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 04:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It will be interesting to see what plays out in this..
Did they somehow know eachother...
Did the victim say something that set the perp off...
Had the perp been tailing the victim for some past transgression, and finally happened upon him...
Or was it just some random nutjob having a meltdown and deciding to kill the next person that sat next to him on a bus.

We may never know.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 04:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

if this had been the US, he would go to trail and be found insane, and get to spend a couple of months in a phsych rehab facility and then back out on the streets for "good behavior" Dont kid yourself, Sick F@cks both sides of the border, our weak @$$ Judicial system just empowers them more.
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Hammer71
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For some reason I dont find any of this shocking, society has become a bunch of freaking animals. Us "normal folk" have become the minority.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Maybe it was a Muslim terrorist. They tend to favor beheadings.
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 07:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Concealed/carry permit is where it's at. This could have been stopped at the first glint of a blade.
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Tramp
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 07:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Maybe it was a Muslim terrorist. They tend to favor beheadings. "

the guy was no muslim- his last name's "li".
And muslims don't have a lock on beheadings, despite what your TV shows you.
Almost all cultures engage in this practice, and always have.

I've seen stacks of muslim heads that were hacked off by Christians, they still smelled horrible after a few days

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Not_purple_s2
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

O wait you can commit a sick crime like this in Canada because their is no death penalty!

I seriously doubt that the death penalty would have stopped him. I don't think someone like that would stop and think "I really shouldn't cut this guys head off, I might get a lethal injection... No wait the worst that will happen is that I'll sit in jail for the rest of my life.... Ok, I'm gonna do it."
The only good the death penalty would do in this situation is satisfy the need for retribution for the victims survivors and society as a whole. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, just that it wouldn't have prevented the crime.
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Tramp
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1
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Xl1200r
Posted on Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It will be interesting to see what plays out in this..
Did they somehow know eachother...
Did the victim say something that set the perp off...
Had the perp been tailing the victim for some past transgression, and finally happened upon him...
Or was it just some random nutjob having a meltdown and deciding to kill the next person that sat next to him on a bus.

From what I read, the killer was on the bus and sitting towards the front at first, got off at a stop for a smoke, and he got back on, he sat in a different seat at the rear of the bus, next to the victim.

By all accounts, the victim was asleep, leaning against the window listening to his headphones.

I suppose there could have been a past transgression, but nothing of the sort was mentioned in the article.
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Hammeroid
Posted on Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Machete's are still the weapon of choice in my neighbor hood. A few weeks ago a kid got his head split like a watermelon. His friends found one of the guys that did it and he met his end too. Just a little slower than his victim.
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Hammer71
Posted on Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Machete fights are great, remind me to pull a few of the aftermath photos next time your around.
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Tramp
Posted on Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 07:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



(Message edited by tramp on August 04, 2008)
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Hammeroid
Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Will do. Had a good run on Sun. I guess the locals kept you pretty busy on Sat.
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is not meant to stir the sh!# or incite debate. I will simply remark however that a well placed shot from a handgun could've saved the poor man's life.
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Phatkidwit1eye
Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 - 03:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I doubt someone with a gun could have stopped what happened. Action happens faster than reaction. I bet the kid would have been dead long before someone saw what was happening, decided to pull his/her weapon, took aim, fired and killed the person.

Knives are pretty brutal when used as a weapon. Especially when the person is that close. I bet the kid was dead long before the beheading.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

FYI - a followup article states that after the beheading, the guy continued to butcher and "consume" parts of the body.
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