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Ceejay
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 06:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I ride some gravel roads from time to time on my bolt. Never thought much of it, nor do I know if the Uly's or XT's have a provision for this. I was getting ready to go up to Mid-O for the vintage days and looked at my belt and saw some funny markings on the outside so I thought I'd better take a look. Nothing major but if I didn't get it out of there I'm sure it would have cuased more problems than I wanted.

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Tramp
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 07:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's part of the reason for my removal of the front belt cover on my S2t.

Keeping the cover off of the front pulley both allows me to inspect this pulley, and precludes the likelihood of detritus becoming lodged between the cover and the pulley.

I still do a great deal of off-road riding with this tuber, and find the open-belt condition to be the most trouble-free.
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Hammer71
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 07:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You're "off road" riding is and understatement.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 09:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had a rock like that wedged in the front sprocket of my KLR-250 as well, the chain had machined a couple nice grooves into it.
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Road_thing
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My primary residence (el ranchito chingadero in the suburbs of beautiful Welcome, Texas) is 1 1/2 miles down a graded gravel road. So far, I've replaced only one drive belt, on the Road Pig, because it had a couple of little holes punched in it. Of course, it had 75,000+ miles on it, so I can't be certain where the holes happened, but I suspect they happened on the road to the ranchito.

So far, so good on the Buells, with only vestigial belt guards.

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(Message edited by road_thing on July 29, 2008)
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Damnut
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Same exact thing happened to me 2 weeks ago.
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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How the heck did a rock that size get by the belt guard in the first place??
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Tramp
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...usually kick-back form the front wheel.
I once found a VW rabbit in my belt guard
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Crusty
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Twamp killed the Wabbit!
Twamp killed the Wabbit!
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Tramp
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Skwewy Kwusty....
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Brumbear
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

sorta like fartin out a strawberry
oohhh that has gotta smart
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Ceejay
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

now I'm hungry for some rabbit stew...

chain wore some nice grooves in the rock-I was worried that it would chuck it in there and snap sumptin.

I figured it got stuck on a hot tire made it round, hit the mud guard and just kinda rolled onto the belt and there she ended up. Maybe those gremlins in the insurance comercials were out for me, dunno as I'm a paying customer...I'm always goofing off when I get in the gravel so there's any number of ways. I doubt I'll worry too much about it as it gives some pretty tell tale signs if there's one there(course I won't notice till I stop). I'll probably leave the guard on, mostly as I think it looks better and take my chances as I don't think it would be much better with a chain. Mostly I just thought it was an interesting side note to that never ending belt vs. chain debate.
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Tramp
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 06:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

" chain wore some nice grooves in the rock- "
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Ceejay
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 07:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Reep's KLR had done the same thing cept it's a chain...which kinda/sorta answered my q as to what would happen if it was a chain instead of a belt...
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Spiderman
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 07:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

now I'm hungry for some rabbit stew..

my disapproving rabbit, disapproves...
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Tramp
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 07:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Chains DEFINITELY kick the detritus out, more efficiently.
Belts belong on cruisers, in my opinion.
That being said, my belts have rarely broken (two replacements in approx. 220,000 miles of severe beatings), although they tend to slip when extremely muddy or icy.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 07:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In fairness, said KLR had about a pound of sticky ohio clay packed in there as well, and had been ridden several miles in about 8 inches of muck.
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Ceejay
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 07:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yummy!
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Miamiuly
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 08:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A different take:

The belt was not a big selling point for me, but I thought it would be nice not to bother with the chain.

After buying the bike, I realize that I am supposed to check the primary chain at 1000 miles. Sorta kills the no maintenance idea. Chain is just bathed in lube but there is still a chain.

It's easier to just adjust the wheel on my zx10r after any initial chain stretch- which is less common as chains get better.

Then I find out that a belt costs more than a chain and sprocket set, which I can use to easily change gearing if I want.

I guess it is smooth or something, I really don't mind lubing my chain every once in a while after a ride. I tend to clean the wheel at the same time.

Speaking of which, does anyone else get really nasty carbon/exhaust build up on their rear wheel?

Anyway, still have to check the belt for damage once in a while and when it is time to change it, again a chain is easier.

No big deal I guess, still love the bike but given the choice, I think maybe I'd go with a chain and be able to swap sprockets and add a speedo healer.
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Thumper74
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, but after the break-in, it's only like every 10,000 miles, right? You probably change tires more frequently...
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Cowboy
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

V-Rod 40000 miles orig.belt---X1 1 belt broken by pinecone @ 20000 now 50000 miles no more trouble I hope I never see another chain.
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Tramp
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My first belt went at 180,000 miles, second went shortly afterward, then i realigned the rear more closely, and have been fine, since.
I'm at 220,000, presently
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