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Beachbuell
Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Or so I heard. Slated for a 2009 model here in the States! 2009 XR1200, I'm in line!




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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yes yes yes, thats the rumor. ... I am already working on the parts list to 'fix' that bike
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Since when was mud in the parts catalog? : )
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Since when was mud in the parts catalog?

LOL, that's where I was going until I read your post. NICE!!!
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The XR750 is a flat track dirt bike ; ) isnt that what they want this thing to be?
Not like I am scared to get MUD and DIRT on a brand new bike !
This will probably end up being the XLCR that I never got. Small bikini fairing, siamese exhaust, definitely different wheels.
The 03XL883R will be the flat tracker (I already have the body kit for it)

Cant leave the garage lights out , those lil orange bikes will multiply. The XR will make 4 of them for the stable
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This will probably end up being the XLCR that I never got.

that's exactly what turned me onto the buells. i like the xr except the pipes. would have to change the pipes on it.

of course if i saw one in person, i might change my mind.}

(Message edited by nevrenuf on July 02, 2008)
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey cityXslicker, where's the MuEll? shouldn't it have been done by now?
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ancient japanese secret.... was waiting for timing chain from Honda. Got in on Tuesday ! bike should be running this weekend. Then the body tear down begins. I will post pics. I needed to buy a new pipe too, the old one was hack

heres the thread to watch
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/270 985/328135.html?1214031226
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Tramp
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2008 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I can't imagine lining up to purchase something I've never ridden....
Shouldn't a Buell still have a superior HP/Weight ratio, better handling characteristics and sportier geometry, altogether?
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2008 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tramp, but you're forgetting a large percentage of the buying public who'll only ride HD, and to them a Buell will never be HD enough.

Remember the story about the two chaps who went for a walk in the woods, and one takes off his boots to don sneakers? The other fellow asks why he's doing that, and the he responds that there are bears in the woods. So the first guy responds that he'll never be able to outrun a bear. The second guys says, "I only have to outrun you."
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2008 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The XR1200 is much like the 35th anniversary Super glide..............lame attempt at the real deal. It wouldn't have been that hard to make a true copy. After all, they surely have the original blueprint/design shit laying around someplace. I think the XR-750 is one of the most beautiful bikes ever built, bar none. Not the the XR1200 is a bad bike, especially if you don't have 40k laying around for a street XR-750........but still......................

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Road_thing
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2008 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm with Zip on the XR750's--pure sex.

But I rode one once, briefly, on a racetrack, and I honestly don't see how I could put many street miles on one, even if it had lights, etc. Not exactly built for comfort...

rt
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Tramp
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2008 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Great responses- First- JLB:
I will NEVER forget that parable... I've never heard/read that way it before (I've heard a different Russian variant, not as concise, though) ...pure genius.

Zip:
That's my presumption, as well....I'll still ride the thing before judging it either way, but you and I are on the same track withg this one.

RT:
I've ridden a few XRs, and i agree- beautiful machine, excellent for limited track mileage between tunes, etc., but I found the dual DelOrtos to be an extraneous headache for street use.

I've always felt HD got it right with the FXR, which was the diametric opposite of their other pseudo-sport blunderbuss, the "XLCR"


...Can you say Sheep in Wolf's clothing?
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Kyrocket
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2008 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Didn't Erik have a hand in the FXR, that would explain a lot.
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Tramp
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2008 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

FXR was the first Buell, to many of us...
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Djkaplan
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2008 - 03:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"The XR1200 is much like the 35th anniversary Super glide..............lame attempt at the real deal."

Uh... huh? The current Superglide is superior in every way superiority can be defined or judged compared to a 35 year old Superglide.

I guess you can definitely kickstart the older Superglide easier...
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Tramp
Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2008 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not exactly, as the one of the most important "way"s by which to judge a machine is lost by your estimation:
It's historical import, as in it's period status.

At the time, it was HD's Initial overture toward implementation of post-market customization: HD was taking a page from what their centerline base (period customizers/1 %ers) were doing, and realizing it into a factory model.

We should never judge an antique without first judging it in it's contemporary light.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Friday, July 04, 2008 - 12:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

At least they didnt bring back the Boat-tail for the 35th Superglide, those damn things were coming off the originals so fast that I am sure they jammed a land fill.
I heard rumor that Corbin had a redeux for it for the period correct angst for a whooping $1000 pricetag

The new XR is a 'nice' bike, I just am not always in the mood to play 'nice'. Like every other iron from milwaukee, it will cost me several thousands to get it to where I want it. : |
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Tramp
Posted on Friday, July 04, 2008 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...when you could simply purchase an old M2 for much less, slap a brand new engine in and still be out less than 6k, and go ahead and modify that base....for a machine far superior to that factory spoon-fed trout-mask-replica.

(Message edited by tramp on July 04, 2008)
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, July 04, 2008 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A couple years back when I was getting my (then fairly new) 05 XB9SX dyno'd at F&S Buell in Dayton, they had a stack of crates in the corner going half way to the roof, all containing XR750 motors.

(probably needed every one of them as well, to get through the season ; ) )
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, July 04, 2008 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't know what to think about the XR1200.

It's not a cruiser. It's not a sport bike. It's not really anywhere close to the original XR750.

It's got as much to do with it's historical descendant as that abomination GTO (Monaro) had with the original.

It isn't a bad looking bike. I'd like to ride one, but I can't imagine it would be more able than a tuber or other standard.

I don't know, it's just weird. I never understood why all the requests for it to be released here.
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Tramp
Posted on Friday, July 04, 2008 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1
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Xandersam
Posted on Friday, July 04, 2008 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I see it as a "standard" that can be customized into nearly anything you want. Or, leave it alone and enjoy the ride. I used to ride a Honda Ascot (VT 500) and it was a fun bike. I think the world could use more standards like this. I am still stashing coins for my XB12Ss, but I like this bike.
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Tramp
Posted on Friday, July 04, 2008 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My nekkid S2T is a standard with an evo Sporty mill, too.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, July 05, 2008 - 04:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"trout-mask-replica" Thanks Tramp, I will have to pay you royalty nickel for that one. Somewhere I have a page pull out of Jimmy Carter hunched over a fish, pulling out a hook of a trout, with a pained look on his face. I cant remember if it was MAD or Playboy, but it had the caption ... "yeah so that is exactly what it feels like".... (or something very close to the affect)
So the New XR gives us all the Trout, none of the sex ?!.. I gotta get some saddle time on it !
Having ridden the XB9, The S1, The X1, an 1125r and a XL, I am expecting a pretty high level of performance. Not less than those.
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Beachbuell
Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Maybe I'll just get one of these instead.





With a few changes It can be my beach cruiser/around town bike. Keeping my Tuber for the long haul touring and more spirited rides.
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Guell
Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I want to like the xr1200, i just cant, and its the bike that i really wanted. So.... im going to be making one out of my buell. It will be lighter, have the radical steering geometry of a buell, inverted front forks with a ztl brake system, the xr tail, and im keeping quiet on the exhaust for now...

Expect a build thread very soon.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Djkaplan:
"The current Superglide is superior in every way superiority can be defined or judged compared to a 35 year old Superglide."


Tramp:
"Not exactly, as the one of the most important "way"s by which to judge a machine is lost by your estimation:
It's historical import, as in it's period status."


You missed the point I took umbrage to...

just_ziptab:
"It wouldn't have been that hard to make a true copy. After all, they surely have the original blueprint/design shit laying around someplace."


You can't dust off the blueprints for a 35 year old motorcycle and just recreate its 'period status' or 'historical import'. That kind of thing is time sensitive to the era it was produced in I would think.

If you don't agree with that, I can get you a good deal on some "Mona Lisas"...

...in bulk.
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Beachbuell
Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pics, pics, pics....... Post some when ya do start............ And finish!


Everything I read so far shows the new XR going for around $14K or so. That seems a little over priced (IMO). For that kind of money to can buy a used XL1200 and then get the Storz set up for it. You'd prolly save a few thousand doing it that way. But, Like I said before...... I already have my sporty bike. Maybe its time for a cruiser type bike also, again! So many motorcycles, such little money.......





(Message edited by beachbuell on July 06, 2008)
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Djkaplan
Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 05:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's a literal conversion of the pound to the dollar. Plus, you have to take into account that Harley's usually get a premium asking price overseas. I highly doubt the MSRP will be that steep here in the US, where the dollar is equal to a dollar.

If the bike sells like gangbusters... don't expect to get one at MSRP for a while, though.
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M2nc
Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well I like the bike and the motor company's attempt to modernize the Sportster. To me the XR is in line with the M2. Though I agree it would cost less to get a used tuber, you can make that argument with any bike or car for that matter. This is the same argument I make to not by a new car. I do not know if the XR is for me, but I will take a look at it when/if it comes out in the US.
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Brumbear
Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

it wont be 14K for long they will sell like 3 of them things aint looling so prosperious in the old U S of A lately we won't fall but we are stumbling a bit if they go around 9-10k they will move rapidly.
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Beachbuell
Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 01:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was looking through the 2009 Sportster part manual (Domestic version) and the XR1200 is listed!

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