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Slowride
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had started an earlier thread about my issues with my 06 Uly

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/406 2/367299.html?1212966903

Let me explain the issue again and tell you what I have checked.

Original Post: I was riding the Uly with a group here in the DFW area. Pulled over and filled up with gas, leaving the station the bike stalled like I had fouled a plug. I restarted the bike and it ran fine. So I continued on, during one of our turns I was on the throttle hard and leaned over and the bike started popping and sputtering like I had lost all power and then it was running fine again.

Updated: I tore into the bike and checked all the connections under the seat, ECM, Bank Angle and the Fuel Pump. All the connections themselves look good. I noticed that there was an area on the Black Connector of the ECM that was rubbed as well as on the left bump stop. As I ride with the 06 after market low seat in the winter and the 07 low seat in the summer, I check both seat pans and both of them had rubs on the underneath of them.

I am not sure if that is the source of my issue, so I pulled the ecm off the brackets and repositioned it in front of the battery behind the shock inner fender and ziptied it into place.

I then checked all the connections under the air box, removed and inspected the coil , plug wires and plugs. All look good.
I took the bike out for a ride last night and experienced the same issues under load. I can rev the bike on the side stand to the rev limiter if needed with no issues, but once under way or under load about 3k –4k it is a wild ride. What happens specifically is that the tach will jum from 2k –5k intermittently when the bike cuts out. All power stays on and the speedo is still working. The bike will back fire like a dagone .357 snub nosed and then regain power.

I am at a loss, the only thing I haven’t done is tear into the wire loom at the front of the bike where it enters the frame per (etennuly’s) comment about a potential broken wire at a connector.

Any suggestions?
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Lonz
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 04:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had the same symptoms. It turned out to be the butterfly valve in the throttle body broke. Sometimes it would open and close correctly, other times it would jam up and the bike would start surging.
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Etennuly
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is it possible you just got bad gasoline? If that was the timing for the problem to start perhaps that is the problem.
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Slowride
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good point, how the hell do I drain the gas in the tank?
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No_rice
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 05:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

there is an plug right in the base of the fuel pump to drain the frame.
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Thumper74
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mine does the same thing, but I've only noticed it in the rain...
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Slowride
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2008 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Update:
I drained all the gas out of the frame, what a cluster that was. I was totally unprepared for that experience. I then replaced my standard NGK Irridiums for an old set of Buell Race Plugs I had in the Uly previously.
I then reassembled the bike and took it for a cruise last night.

I had two brief stumbles, but nothing under load. 1st stumble was turning right from a stop sign. 2nd at a steady 34oo rpms on the highway, but neither time did the bike die.

This morning I rode it in to work, about a 25 mile trip on major highways. I ran it between 85-95 mph and it never sputtered once. Close to work is a short set of s turns. So upon reaching said s turns I WOT through the chicane at a brisk 50ish mph and at hard lean to the right the bike died and lost all power. I recycled the kill switch and it fired right back up. Now this sounds like a bad BAS. Is there a way to bypass it until I get a new one? Can I just disconnect it?

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Teeps
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2008 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The BAS can be disabled by software with ECM Spy.
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Slowride
Posted on Monday, June 23, 2008 - 01:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ok, so after a 500 mile trip up to MO, two up on the uly fighting the sporadic power loss the whole way. I run through a rain storm and what do ya know... the bike stops dead in its tracks. No fire, no pass go~

After tearing the bike down on the side of the road in a field with it raining, I unplugged all the connectors under the belt cover and reseated them. The bike fired right up and we never had another hint of trouble.


ARRRRRGGGGG!~

Put her back together and the wife and I finished riding MO 125, AR 7, 16 & 23 back to Dallas, TX.

Whoo hoo! We got in at 2am this morning.
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