| Author | Message | ||
     Chadr81 |
Well, nice ride home from work this morning and the State Boy decides to pull me over because my D&D is to loud. Guy at first said he pulled me over because I had no muffler at all, and then I educated him on where the exhaust on a Buell is mounted. I made the mistake of saying it was a "performance muffler", not a race muffler, and that I have been running it ever since I bought it over a year ago. I ended up getting a $160.80 ticket for having a non functional muffler on a motorcycle. Anyone else have run-ins with their local law enforcement over how loud your D&D muffler is? The guys I work with and my local cops have never said a word, not even looked my way about it. I told the guy I work for the Sheriff's Dept, and then he started going off on me about how I should hold higher standards and not be breaking the law like that. I told him to go preach to someone else and that I have no plans on changing it. Before he got back in his car, I told him I'd see him tomorrow... exact same place, exact same time. He didn't like that very much... Sorry, had to vent a little bit. What do you guys think? Chad | ||
| Chadr81 |
Oh, one more thing... speed limit was 65, and I was going 67 from what my GPS said. So it's not like I was screwing off at all. | ||
| Glitch |
Yep, I've heard of this happening up your way. Hasn't happened to me yet (I have the Buell Race, not as loud as D&D) I figure I'm safe as long as the Police bikes here are just as loud or louder. | ||
| Chadr81 |
The funny thing is about 4 Harleys with exhausts as loud if not louder went screaming by as I was pulled over. I asked him if I was on a Harley like those if he would have pulled me over. He said if it's to loud, no matter what make it is, he pulls them over and cites them... no questions asked. I really doubt that. I'm just a little pissed about the entire thing right now. Now I have to try and go to sleep and not think about this. I'm guessing I won't sleep well at all. So much for my squeaky clean record! | ||
| Glitch |
Put the stock exhaust back on, go to court with the bike, show them you've swapped back, and they may just throw it out. | ||
| Chadr81 |
I don't have the stocker. I bought it with the D&D already on it. I think I might just work some overtime from time to time to pay for my tickets I get from the exhaust! lol | ||
| Jaimec |
Just a tip: Mouthing off to the LEO never works out well... | ||
| Tramp |
Nearly every cop in my area rides, and those that don't, have to work with guys that do....so "The OC" is a very, very two-wheel friendly county....Teutels or not. City/Ex-city Cops around here are relieved to see that this is an 81-affiliated county- M/C crimes are much, much lower in 81 areas. The East Coast alternative is way too criminal and skanky an element. Red & White support stickers actually garnish respect from most riding cops, hereeabout My town justice screams around on his 'Busa; when he first moved to the area, I was working the door at one of the grubbiest scooter-bars around, and we hit it off immediately. Our 'Officer of the year" is one of the most talented riders I've had the pleasure of following.... so, No- The D&D is unlikely too loud for cops, here. (Message edited by tramp on June 01, 2008) | ||
| Hammer71 |
You said you work for the Sheriffs Dept. If by chance you are a Deputy and this •••••• gave you a summons.... Remember Sheriff has jurisdiction throughout the county even in his little town or village. I would wreak holy hell in his town ie: mass ticket blitz, stop question and frisk every swingin dick around and so on, hell I'd probably poach his town and stalk the off going shift and write them as well. | ||
| Mathen001 |
I've been confronted about the D&D on my XB9 twice.(I was stopped for other reasons  ) Not the best advise, but I claim it's stock. I've gotten questioned about baffles and such, otherwise the locals around here are not very wise on Buells. It's not chrome,carbon,or stainless, it must be stock. motor on!!!!! | ||
| Just_ziptab |
Was you wearing gear? Just curious. I always were gear and have never been bothered(XB9R and D&D) Seems I get pulled over in my "stock, clean and unobtrusive" pickup about once every year. Usually a verbal warning. Last ticket was a few years ago for no seat belt. | ||
| Glitch |
Most of these tickets I've heard of have been in Wisconsin. Dave S was talking about how they were cracking down on loud pipes, but that was a couple of years ago. Selective ticketing? | ||
| Tramp |
"You said you work for the Sheriffs Dept. If by chance you are a Deputy and this •••••• gave you a summons.... Remember Sheriff has jurisdiction throughout the county even in his little town or village. I would wreak holy hell in his town ie: mass ticket blitz, stop question and frisk every swingin dick around and so on, hell I'd probably poach his town and stalk the off going shift and write them as well." I love living and riding around here | ||
| Cowboy |
If it were in my area I would take it to sheriff, in my area sheriff is local Boss Hog He then tell D.A. to deep six it. end of story. | ||
| Johntman |
Read the code section carefully. He cited you for a non-functional muffler and not a noise violation. In Georgia there is a non-functional muffler charge.. but that is if there is just no pipe there at all. Straight pipes in Georgia constitute a "working exhaust". They ticket around here for "noise" violations and not "equipment" violations. All I'm saying is just look into it, you may be able to show up at court and make him look like an idiot. | ||
| Mikef5000 |
Hopefully you didn't piss him off as much as he pissed you off, otherwise you'll be getting another ticket tomorrow... exact same place, exact same time. | ||
| Chadr81 |
Was you wearing gear? Just curious. Yes, I was wearing gear. I mostly do about 99% of the time. Just a tip: Mouthing off to the LEO never works out well... I know what I can and can't say within reason. I've been a cop for 4.5 years in the Marine Corps and going on almost 4 years with the county. I'll make sure and try to remember that.  I'm going to check the statute that he wrote me or when I get to work tonight. I honestly can't remember anyone I work with that has pulled over or written up someone with a loud exhaust like that. We are always busy enough that we don't have time to deal with stuff like that, and most of us up here ride Harleys. Now that I've slept a little, I can take this with a level head. I'll have to research the ticket a little, research the guy that pulled me over, and take it all from there. As for things like this happening more up this way, it's only going to get worse. State Patrol said they will be sitting on the highways more looking for more violations. At least he didn't write me for not having a plate on the front!!  This is looking to be a fun summer up north here. Chad | ||
| Ratbuell |
I know here in MD, they have an actual dB level in the books, and select units patrol with meters. If your county has a dB level, ask how he metered you - like a radar ticket without a radar gun. It reminds me of the story of a guy who went to court on a speeding ticket and the cop said "I could just tell he was speeding", at which point the judge threw a pen across the room and asked how fast the pen was going. If you know motormen in the area, see if they run stock pipes on their HDs. Chances are they still run Kerkers. Have them fire up next to yours and compare. I'd bet if they run Kerkers, they're old, been-on-their-motors-for-years, and the stuffing is cooked out. Lots of the guys down here keep the Kerkers (their personal pipes) when they turn in their motors for new ones, and just reinstall the pipes on the new bikes. Better yet, if you're "in" with any motormen, ride home with an escort buddy for a few days and make sure your new friend sees it  | ||
| Paint_shaker |
Idiots like the one that cited you are what causes turf wars between agencies... There is a State Trooper in my area that likes to stop bikes for various infractions such as loud exhaust, handle bars to high, etc to write tickets (few if any warnings).... I don't agree with him and tell him everytime I see him! | ||
| Pepperk496 |
HA! Good thing there isnt much adherence to "rule of law" here in Turkey. Just about anything goes on the road out here, including my D&D!  | ||
| Jaimec |
By the way, if you are heading to Lake George, NY for the Americade: If you aren't 100% legal STAY AT HOME. I've been hearing reports of cyclists being targetted for novelty helmets, loud exhaust, uninsured, unregistered and unlicensed. There are checkpoints all OVER the place, and they're moving them around too. Just thought I'd give you all a "Head's Up." | ||
| Bonjoxb12s |
State Troopers have been cracking down on every violation they can across the country. I don't think this is just a "local" problem, as many people will find themselves being written up for loud pipes, no seat belt, novelty helmets, littering, no signal with a lane change etc. They were relaxed for a long time, and now they are pulling in the reigns..... if you don't like it, don't break the law..... they can't write you up for being a law abiding citizen. Just my .02 | ||
| Tramp |
Bear in mind they're under pressure to write, esp. the state guys, due to increased fiscal pressure, what with fuel costs. ...bear in mind, as well, that "yes Sir" and "no Sir" when you're tagged, go a long way, later, in court. I'm always respectful to the heat, and, regardless of how the officer might conduct him/herself, respecting the uniform is the way to go. ...can save you bad feelings in court, and land you a break. | ||
| Danny_h__jesternut |
Generating $$$ for the town,state county,province is what its all about. Easy money, little to no danger. Jest think of it as your user fee. | ||
| Bads1 |
Glitch Wrote, Dave S was talking about how they were cracking down on loud pipes, but that was a couple of years ago. Selective ticketing? I remember that Dave. It was the year before last. I fact they did 85 tickets that day in Appleton. I think Appleton is really cracking down in that area. Me being about an 1 hour 45 min. South. They don't bother at all. Infact I don't hear of tickets around here other then the Appleton area for some reason. | ||
| Chadr81 |
On my way to work tonight, there were 4 State cars out with people pulled over within the 35 mile stretch from Appleton to Green Bay. That's the first time in about 2 years that I've seen that many of them out in one area at 10 p.m. Even during the daytime hours, you never see that many of them around the same area at once. Guess it has become a problem area that they are focusing on. I'm still checking into a few things. What he wrote me for is kind of the catch-all statute for loud exhausts on motorcycles, so I have to see how easy it will be to get thrown out. In the mean time, I've already found a different route to work. It may take a little longer to get to and from, but the scenery and roads are much nicer. | ||
| P47b |
Check with the local laws thru a law consultant. This web sight is mostly up to date on laws from state to state. Hope this helps. I think 96db at 20 is a bunch of C*@&. http://home.ama-cycle.org/amaccess/laws/result.asp ?state=wi | ||
| Rex |
D and D is loud. Even my Vance and Hines with packing is getting a little too loud. No way, I am going to start it up at night in my neigbhorhood anymore...just too loud. I kept my stocker, but I don't want the extra weight. There are areas in Phoenix where they are really cracking down. cavecreek, etc. writing folks up...harleys are just too loud.... | ||
| Samiam |
That 96db at 20" is for off road, according to that site there is no restriction for muffler or noise. -Sam | ||
| Johntman |
can you give me the state code section, or local ordinance that he wrote you for. I'd like to look at it and compare it to Georgia's law if possible. |
