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Natexlh1000
Posted on Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Almost a year ago, I bought one of these;
http://www.stopngo.com/products/plugger/1000.asp
Along with the cute little pump that they sell in a kit.
Well today, I got off of my bike to find a nice drywall screw in my rear tire.

The kit had one problem:
the threads on the plunger part were not put on correctly and I had to chase them with a file to get it to thread in.

besides that, however, it seems to work and has been holding 40 pounds of pressure for several hours.

I remember reading from somewhere that the steel belts in the tire will eat the plug so I'll have to see.
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Corporatemonkey
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 06:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good to know. I have a stop n go kit with my "CyclePump"

How long did it take to fix?

Are you going to replace the tire, or are you going to run on the plug for a while? I am kind of curious how it holds up.
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Crusty
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 07:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nate; are you running steel belted tires?
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 09:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am running steel belted tires.I know this because I saw some of them in there.
I know that they will kill the plug so I will see how long.

The tire is pretty much done anyways as it made it to Iowa last year after homecoming.

The plugger kit that I have had a flawed thread on the plunger part that goes into the main large handle.
It took me some time with a file to clean out the threads.
I estimate that once I figured it all out and made the parts to fit together, it took like 5 minutes to get the plug in and a longer time to pump it up.
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Birdy
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That is the same style plug that was used on my tire last fall. It started to leak within 100 miles. I knew something was up when the guy told me to use "Fix-A-Flat" if it goes down. Needless to say I have a new tire now.

It got me home BUT I'll never run a plug after that. I hate to think what would happen in the super slab if it'd let go.
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Iamike
Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Last summer, before Homecoming, I had picked up a box staple in my new rear tire. The bizzare thing was that as I was riding to work that morning I got this funny feeling that I hadn't had a flat on my bikes in years. When I got home I saw the staple.

When I pulled out the staple the tire went down pretty quick. Since the hole was really small and I knew a plug would make a much bigger hole, I just pushed some silicone glue into the hole with a small nail head figuring I'd pull the tire and put a patch on the inside.

Well I never got around to doing it and almost a year and several thousand miles later it is still holding.

I guess it depends where the hole is and how much damage is done determines whether to plug it, patch it or replace it.

Iowa Mike
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well after letting the bike sit with the plug in it for a few days, I checked the pressure and it had dropped about 8 pounds.
I topped it off and drove it to work on the back roads with no drama.
So far mileage is up past 40.
And a tire is on order ;)
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Xl1200r
Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I can't even count the number of tires I've plugged and very few have still leaked if they've been a reasonable repair (the time a house key went through the tread doesn't count as a reasonable repair).

That said, I woudln't trust the plugging kit for very much. It relies on the plug being bigger than the hole to create a seal. Pretty shoddy if you ask me.

Whenever we repaired tires, we used a vulcanizing fluid that chemicially bonded the tire to the plug, making it act more like one peice of rubber. Unless this kit has that, I woudln't buy it for me.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ooops.
I must have measured the pressure wrong this morning.
I just measured it here at work (cold) and it was in the high 40's.

I guess it doesn't have a slow leak after all.
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Sleez
Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i plugged an almost new tire with the rope type kit, and it lasted the entire life of the tire with no ill effects. it happened 2 days after putting on the tire, a day before heading out from SoCal to Donner for the weekend. watched it closely, never lost more than a lb or 2 during any period.
YMMV
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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 10:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I only use the patch kits.(inside tire) They seem to work best for me. I never had a problem with these.

Good luck with that plug! If you need to use the No-MAr Bar just let me know.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Friday, April 18, 2008 - 08:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I only use the patch kits.(inside tire)

The plugs we used had a patch as well - had to be put on from the inside. A plug filled the hole and the attached patch made sure it was a REALLY good seal.

Those rope plugs are about the best you can get for a roadside repair.
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