| Author | Message | ||
     Dobr24 |
http://www.ecmspy.com/download/EcmSpySetup.exe Now you can tune your 08 bikes. (Message edited by dobr24 on April 12, 2008) | ||
| Werewulf |
thats very good news... | ||
| Volk |
sorry new guy question. what is ecmspy and how/when do you use it? | ||
| Slaughter |
Volk, ECMSpy is a system that enables pretty complete tuning and TPS re-setting of the fuel injected systems. Software is available free. Search through BAdweb - there's a whole lotta discussions and info available. | ||
| Rocketsprink |
Volk, just another toy to spend your money on so you can do a better job than factory engineers "tuning" your bike. Personally, I'd steer clear. That's just my opinion. | ||
| Volk |
would i need something like this if i were to get exhaust, later on of course after i get past my break in and get more seat time | ||
| Rocketsprink |
I don't think so. Too many variables to deal with unless you have a dyno to really tune it on. Too risky in my book. Many people here have went to an after market exhaust and stayed with the stock ecm. Or get Buell's race ecm. Cheaper anyway. | ||
| Cataract2 |
The nice thing about ECMSPY is being able to do a TPS and AFV reset at home. | ||
| M1combat |
And its free. | ||
| Rocketsprink |
How many times do you have to reset your tps and afv? do something wrong and you could really f' up your engine. that's all I'm saying. | ||
| Werewulf |
ecm spy is the only hope at the moment, to cure to low speed driveability problems that some are having with the 08s....no race ecms or other factory support at this time.. you gotta do, what you gotta do. | ||
| Cataract2 |
Um Rocket, if you mess up your TPS and AFV reset your bike just runs like crap. Then you redo it. And quite frankly, there are some here who have dealerships who will f*** up their bikes also. So on a curious note, why so negative about others being able to use this program to do these things? | ||
| Oldog |
The Spy soft ware at least in the eye ball department looks to be much better than VDSTS and having spent that coin the bits to build a cable are inbound its that good. ECM spy can be used to trouble shoot and adjust your ECM and all engine adjustments should be made one at a time and documented. RS has a point that IF you go in and muck around randomly changing things you will likely wreck something [ your motor ] With the spy you can upload a PDF tuning guide I would read that before doing any work. I have a standard and race ECM for My X1 so I plan on reading them both back and studying them my bike is down 10 ponies race VS stock ECM on the local dyno not sure why, so looking makes sense. | ||
| Id073897 |
do something wrong and you could really f' up your engine. So, tell me how. Regards, Gunter | ||
| Dobr24 |
Ecmspy is a valuable tool if you own a Buell. First the software is free. Second it enables the tuning of the variables which are set at the factory in your electronic control module. I can tell you from experience that these bikes can and do run better than the factory engineers tuned them to. Some of the options that you can change are timing, wot (wide open throttle) settings so the bike has better throttle response (less stumble), fuel map changes (idle), fan settings, tps resets on and on and on. Just because the factory sticks an ecm in does not mean that bike will be optimally tuned for the life of the vehicle. I have not heard of any one screwing up their motor with ecmspy. If you don't know what you are doing then don't use it. I agree with Oldog, read the tuning guide, understand the basic principles and you will be fine. Oh yeah, Thanks Gunther (and the rest of the development team) for all your hard work. | ||
| Typeone |
Thanks Gunther, Ralf, and the rest of the development team for all your hard work. HUGE +1 to that! So excited to get back to tuning this season with the newer version. Awesome work, team! | ||
| Rocketsprink |
"This guide is intended to assist in the tuning of your Buell ECM whilst providing advice on how to avoid engine damage! To tune your engine safely, our strongest recommendation is to print off your default configuration, then only ever add fuel to the standard map, unless you have access to a Dyno or Wideband controller" So the disclaimer states it IS possible to damage your engine, huh. "RS has a point that IF you go in and muck around randomly changing things you will likely wreck something [ your motor ]" My point. Thanks Oldog. "So on a curious note, why so negative about others being able to use this program to do these things?" No. Negative would be "don't waste your time with that piece of shit program" I don't remember posting that. I believe the question was "would i need something like this if i were to get exhaust, later on of course after i get past my break in and get more seat time" The answer is no. I'm not putting down anyone that wants to tune their own bike. Nor am I cutting down anyone that develops a program to help out in that quest. I'm just stating I, repeat, I would steer clear. What? No one can have an opinion anymore? | ||
| Id073897 |
I respect your oppinion and if you want to stay away from that all is soley your decistion. But all this "do something wrong and you could really f' up your engine" is not true. First of all: the tuning guide had been written long before the first codeline of EcmpSpy ever existed. Steve was tuning his Buell far before that. All EcmSpy references had been added later. The tuning guide had also been written long before we discovered how the ECM protects the engine from (maybe configuration-) errors. If these protective algorithms would not exist, some engines would be in trouble from day 1 of the DDFI on. If I'm not mistaken, this is about 10 years before the first version of EcmSpy was released. I did some test runs with settings, which normally no one would ever do. So I know how a lean mixture above AFR 17 and a rich mixture below AFR 11 feels when riding (and that you have to be a total blockhead not to notice that) and I know, that the engine lamp is constantly switched on then. People ignoring that would ignore it in any other situation also, so blaming this to EcmSpy is nonsense. And the last point: I blew up more than one engine during the last thirty years with nothing more than a screwdriver. "A fool with at tool ..." Regards, Gunter | ||
| Danny_h__jesternut |
Does this ECM Spy work on all Buell ECM's? Tuber's stock & race? XB's same questin? Where do I get the wire to hook this PC, can I hook up this old PC to the bike? | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
I downloaded the software and it's not in English.  | ||
| Ratyson |
Ferris, Under the Options menu, go to the Program selection. There you can select English. | ||
| Oldog |
Gunter / Ralf & developement team, I hope that you did not take My comments as a negative as well. While I do not have the cable built yet I am Impressed by what I have seen. I paid 200.00$ us for a less capable piece of soft ware and what I have seen of your efforts and the tuning guide they are a master work, my helmet is off to you for the job, Also Thank you for sharing your efforts with all of the comunity, its more than generous. FYI: I program industrial control systems and that is a great easy to understand front end {once the nut holding the keyboard sets the correct lanuage}  If you are ever state side I would like to buy you a meal and a beer! Again Thanks for your generosity and your efforts. Jim Bryant AKA Ol'Dog. | ||
| Cataract2 |
So, curious, does it work for the 1125R also? | ||
| Xbrfirebolt |
This is worth repeating! "Thanks Gunther, Ralf, and the rest of the development team for all your hard work." | ||
| Id073897 |
So, curious, does it work for the 1125R also? Not that I would know. I suppose it's a different ECM used in the liquid cooled models, although named DDFI-III like the one built into the 2008 model. The IDS press release mentions the usage of a CAN bus for ECM-to-cluster communication, so it might be possible, a CAN bus is used for programming the ECM also. http://www.intelligentdesignsolutionsinc.com/news. htm Regards, Gunter | ||
| Dobr24 |
Yes it will work for tubers, if they have a ecm. | ||
| Sgthigg |
Hummm, How about the Sportester. They now have ECM's as well hell even the little "dongle" is the same shape. I guess I will have to wait about 2 more weeks till mine show up to try it out. | ||
| Sgthigg |
Hummm, How about the Sportster. They now have ECM's as well hell even the little "dongle" is the same shape. I guess I will have to wait about 2 more weeks till mine show up to try it out. | ||
| Rednismo |
what cable do u need were u get them at? |
