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Sath
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 08:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For you that use a MP3 player, how do you get the ear buds to stay in when putting on your helmet? What kind do you use?
Thanks Dave
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Xl1200r
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 08:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The regular ear buds sucks for this, and to be honest the sound will be so lousy anyways (from trying to overcome wind noise) that it's almost not worth it.

Try using headphones that are built into an ear plug. You can get really nice ones for $100 or more, or hit up Wal Mart or some similar store to get a cheapy pair in the $20 range. I have a cheap pair and like them enough to upgrade to something nicer. They stay in place and really improve the audio quality.
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Josh_
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 08:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Shure

Etymotic

I have the 6i Etymotic and a Shure that isn't sold anymore. On long trips I need to swap - they insert differently which keeps my ears from hurting too much. Keep the volume down either way, don't damage your hearing by cranking it!
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Firebolt32
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 08:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sath...I can't remember the name of them, but almost any bike show I've been to there is a company that makes ear buds that mold to your ears. Probably a bit pricey.
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Sath
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 09:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Xl1200r, What do you mean by the headphones that are built into ear plugs?
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Thumper74
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They make silicon earplug that have speakers in them specifically molded to your ear canal
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Odie
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

cep-usa.com
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Mikef5000
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was recommended the Etymotic ER6i's by a handful of people on here last fall. I used them for the first time last weekend for MB5. They come with three different tips, I use the ones pictured. The sound is fantastic, and if you turn off the music, the sound deadening is very comparable to the orange foam earplugs. With regular earbuds, I was just over 3/4 volume. With these I'm right at 1/4. Their fairly cheap when comparing to other high end in ear phones too.

Also, stay away from true 'noise cancelling' headphones.

http://www.amazon.com/Etymotic-Research-Isolator-E arphones-Black/dp/B000BQSGMM/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UT F8&s=electronics&qid=1207579813&sr=8-1
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Xl1200r
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sath - same as the Etymotic and Shure earphones listed above. The actually sit IN your ear and seal out outside noise (not enough to not hear your surroundings, mind you). Makes the music much clearer, deadens the wind noise by a lot, and keeps them in place better.
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Darthane
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

While I'd definitely recommend something that not only plays your tunes but also deadens wind/road noise, one of my helmets I played aorund with enough to actually mount speakers in the cheek padding. They were originally for my Chatterbox, but they got a lot of use for commuting music as well.

...I'm gonna have to look into those Etymotics, though - I never wear that helmet anymore!
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Teeps
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.earsound.com/earsoundproductline.html
not cheap, but molded is the way to go.
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Mikef5000
Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've heard a few people say the molded ones didn't work out well at all. Easily popped out when the move their jaw, or something like that.
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Lastcyclone
Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 07:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Try a helmet liner, it will hold the buds in place while you put your lid on.
Used one for years, works great and it keeps the inside of your helmet from getting stinky quickly.


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Jackbequick
Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 10:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

These triple flanged tips will fit a lot of different ear buds:

http://tinyurl.com/59ppxx

I use them on my Shure e2c's and they get down into my ear canals and stay in place nicely. They also block out a lot of the external sounds so you can set a reasonable listening level and still hear as the speed increases and decreases.

Jack
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Dynasport
Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a pair of molded ear plugs made by this company

www.bigearinc.com

They made them in minutes one day when I went to ride Buell's at a Buell demo day at Brandon HD. I didn't get mine with speakers built in, but they sell them also. Some are very pricey on their web site, but I think they were giving discounts at the Demo Day. Mine look like the BE-SP, the basic solid ear plug. I think I paid about $60 for them, but I am not positive. I will say they are great. They don't pop out at all. In fact they fit very snug, but they don't make my ear sore like the foam ear plugs I used to wear do. I wish I could say I wear them all the time, but I don't. Too lazy I guess. I can say they work great when I wear them and they are very comfortable.
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 07:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

do the ety's hurt your ear's mike or anyone else that use's them.
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Jackbequick
Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 08:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My Shures would get painful until I went to those silicone, triple flanged tips which are pretty soft.

With the e2c's in, I can run my finger across my ear and it just lightly touches the bud, so it does not stick out very far at all. I think that any pressure on the buds from the helmet liner is what was causing me the quick discomfort.

The Shures have an angle to them that keeps them laying a little closer to the ear I think. I wanted to try the ety er6i's too but found the Shures first and they have been good. I can get my helmet on and off easy without dislodging them.

Jack
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thanks again jack. where did you get your's at.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This past weekend, the guy from Starkey Labs was at the demo days I attended.
Seriously sweet deal on a set of custom ear plugs, only $40!

They do them a bit different than the single step ones made at shows and such.
They don't like the quick silicon used for them as it usually breaks down after a while.

Starkey takes a mold pattern of your ear then takes it back to the lab.
A tech fills in any voids or imperfections then does an initial triming.
Then they apply a very thin layer of liquid silicon to make the plug slightly larger than the inital molding. This makes the final ear plug fit a bit tighter to keep it in place and to avoid the tendancy of some ear plugs to "unseal" when you open your mouth or yawn.

The next step is to use the above "plug" to make a mold casting. This is used to make the final ear plug. The resulting plug is trimmed and drilled for a cord if desired.

The neat thing about this method is you get to keep the final mold! If you want a set for earphones, you send in the molds and your favorite set if ear buds.
$60 later, you have a custom set of sound isolating in ear monitors!

These guys really know their stuff, Starkey is one of the largest designers and manufacturers of hearing aids.
They also have a line of in ear monitors, they run about $300 but have a woofer and an mid-tweeter in each one!
I listened to a set, they were the best I've ever heard, bar none.

I'm really lookig forward to getting my set later this week. I'll report back when I get them.

Brad
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Jackbequick
Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I picked the e2c's off on eBay for about $75 or so. I sort of cringed at the cost but don't regret it now.

Bluz,

On the Starkeys, do they use your ear buds and mold those in? I "get it" on the well fitted and well made plugs but are you limited to the quality the ear buds they use?

Some of the newer Shures like the SE420 and SE530 are pretty amazing, they not only have both tweeters and woofers in them but the SE530 has dual woofers.

Jack
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Bluzm2
Posted on Friday, April 11, 2008 - 12:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jack,
They mold in a socket that you plug in your headset. They usually do the low to mid cost units like Sony, Koss, etc.
However, if you have a set you really like they will do their best to make a socket to fit yours.
The guy said they've never had any they couldn't accomodate.
Their top end ear buds are one of the best I've ever heard.

Brad

Oh, I'm still waiting for the phone call to let me know to pick them up!
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Friday, April 11, 2008 - 03:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Stolen from Concours forum:
"...get a set of Koss "The Plug" ear plugs..like these. http://www.geekbro.com/index.cfm/hurl/page=product /itemid=710311?source=GoogleBase

They used to sell them at Target, maybe they still do. Make sure they are "The Plug" as the speaker buds have a small nipple over which different shaped foam inserts can be slid on. They cost about $10.00. I got mine off E-bay. Throw all the foam inserts away.

Next get a couple of Plantronics head set ear tips called Versatip.
http://www.headsetsdirect.com/accessories/25640-01 .html

You can usually get these at any decent headset shop. They are like $2.50 each.

Slide the Versatip plastic tube over the Koss ear bud nipple and then insert the Versatip in your ear. The tube is long enough to allow the hard plastic Koss speaker to hang down about two inches below your ear. When you put your helmet on, the hard plastic speaker will hang just below your helmet. Now just plug the jack into your favorite MP3.

You'll be amazed. You can pull your helmet on and off and the ear tips will stay in even if you turn your head. Those soft Versatip ear tips are comfortable enough to wear for hours and won't dig holes in your head like the hard plastic ear buds do. They also block out the wind and road noise so you pretty much just hear the music. You'll hear things in songs that you never knew were there.

I've used them with Shoei, Arai and now my Nolan helmets. I haven't found a helmet yet they didn't work with.

Try it. For less than $20 you'll be amazed."
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Limitedx1
Posted on Friday, April 11, 2008 - 08:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 for molded, i tell you that no ear bud will block out a force pipe! at least at wide open throttle, lol.
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Livnlo
Posted on Friday, April 11, 2008 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i use the bose in ears and they work great different tips for fit and they actually have bass response by far the best earphone i have owned and last check was 100 bucks at best buy
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Bosh
Posted on Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 04:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have one of these: http://earplugstore.stores.yahoo.net/chmisearph.ht ml
(single ear model since I only have one working ear).
The neet thing about this company is they send you the impression kit. Saves you a trip to the audiologist. You stick little cotton balls way down into your ear canal, they have strings so you can get them out. Then use a syringe to inject this rubber stuff into your ear. Let it set up, pull it out and send it in to the company and they make a nice custom earbud out of it.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No phone call yet
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Tank_bueller
Posted on Saturday, April 12, 2008 - 08:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Another vote for the Etymotic Er6i's.

I use them at minimal volume, and can still hear some stuff around me. They sound great!

I'd buy another pair if these crap-out.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I picked up my ear plugs on Monday, I'll post pictures later tonight.
They are well made and work well.

Brad
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Buellsruell
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2008 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The solution is EARFUZE.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item =330266072455&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80 %2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm3 7%26satitle%3D330266072455%2509%26category0%3D%26f vi%3D1

http://earfuze.com/

Best $30 I ever spent...

(Well, not including that one night in NYC a few years ago...heheh)
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