| Author | Message | ||
     Firebolt32 |
We have had two Jap bike deaths in two days on Combee road in Lakeland, FL. The first guy on Thurs. had gear on. He was estimated doing over 100mph. Died instantly. Yesterday there was another that I had to see while taking my bike to get serviced. Front end about 75 yrds from the rest of the bike. The sheet covered body about 50 yards away from the rest of the bike. The bike...being pryed from the tree by the fire department. Will these guys ever learn. Take that $hit to the track. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
I looked up that street on google and it's just a straight line. Were they drag-racing or some dumb crap? | ||
| Slaughter |
Except as it pertains to increased local law enforcement for the rest of us, I think this is GOOD news. We need to ENCOURAGE this kind of riding so that those of us who are left out here can keep getting low mileage salvage parts for our racebikes and performance modifications. I gave up trying to convince people to ride within their limits - instead I put my name in with a bunch of local dealers and I probably put in a salvage bid a few times a year for myself or other racers. There's a steady stream of parts thanks to the squids - not to mention organ donation. | ||
| Pwnzor |
Most streets in Florida are straight lines. I think, now this is just my opinion, that Florida has a very high percentage of squids in the population. I think it must be the warm water. | ||
| Glitch |
Darwin's theory of Natural Selection at work. | ||
| New12r |
Well when the only way to get a thrill is at 150mph down a straight road you take what you can get. I get to go 45mph on some roads that makes that speed seem like warp speed! Remember, the idiots are not going to listen to reason..... | ||
| Dogdaze |
Speed is intoxicating......especially if there are no turns to carve and this is the only way you know how to reach a high (love, sports, nature, faith) sad | ||
| Cataract2 |
OH, don't think FL has tons of squids. I am stationed here in Colorado Springs where the twisty roads are a short ride to the west and this place is loaded with squids and fair weather riders. I tried a local sportbike club here and was less than impressed. They were all about what bike you rode and who can go the fastest in the straight line and bench racing the curves. I need to get in contact with the Buell group out here again now that the weather is better (snow is going bye bye). I rode with them a few times and was impressed. | ||
| Teeps |
Glitch Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 Darwin's theory of Natural Selection at work. You would hope... unfortunately, like viruses, they breed before they die. | ||
| Bcordb3 |
Except as it pertains to increased local law enforcement for the rest of us, I think this is GOOD news. So a couple of guys getting killed is good news! Tell that to there families, then delete the post. That is a no class comment. | ||
| New12r |
So a couple of guys getting killed is good news! Tell that to there families, then delete the post. That is a no class comment. Here is your statement. Make the world safe for dumb people, and in 40 years there will be nothing but dumb people. We the human race spend way to much time and money saving people from themselves. We also hold life to this HOLY standard. Guess what?? EVERYTHING DIES, you better get used to it as you are gonna die to. | ||
| Bcordb3 |
you better get used to it as you are gonna die to. Your comments doesn't really have relevance to I what I stated. I am not trying to save anyone, I, more than most of the members of this site, am more aware of death than you can imagine. I won't go into specifics. I am well aware that I am going die sooner or later. Did I say or imply that any laws should be changed to protect a bunch squids? No, I didn't. I simply paraphrased a statement and gave my opinion. | ||
| Damnut |
So a couple of guys getting killed is good news! Tell that to there families, then delete the post. That is a no class comment. If somebody wants to go 100+ on a public street, crashes and dies, then that is their fault. I can see Slaughter's point. It sounds like in both of those crashes the rider did it to themselves. It does suck for the family but if that rider wasn't going over 100mph he would probably still be here. I wouldn't feel bad for him or his family nor would I want anyone to feel sorry for me or my family if I went out like that. That's what happens went you ride at very high speeds on public streets. I agree with New12R's statement as well. (Message edited by damnut on April 05, 2008) | ||
| Firebolt32 |
I read the paper today. Thursday's accident was due to the severe wheather he was driving in. He crossed over into incoming traffic. The UPS big rig pulled off the side of the road to try to miss the Harley. The Harley made contact with the trailer axel. Friday's accident was due high speeds they "think". Alot of big rig traffic comes out of that side street there. Officials think the bike was moving too fast and tried to miss a truck, then struck a tree killing the biker instantly. There are many areas where I live that are in no mans land. They take awhile to get too, but theres no traffic, no homes, nothing. When I want the hit the twisties, I suit up and find my remote area. You have to remember as well, Florida is home to the "cotton tops". Slow speed or high speed, alot of what I read in the paper and see on the news is somebody who can barely walk driving a car. And then you have the extreme opposite with squids squeezing between cars. It's a lose lose situation. | ||
| Firebolt32 |
The first guy on Thurs. He was estimated doing over 100mph. This is false from my original post. I was misinformed. | ||
| Freeflyer |
To say good that someone died because they were rumored to be going 100MPH You have a real shit attitude, especially when then its found out they were not going too fast. thats someones brother/father/son/friend and totally disrespectfull, but I guess you can preach cause you have NEVER gone too fast off the track right? And you deserve life because you are smarter than the rest of idiot society, never have done stupid shit that risked your life. Im not trying to be a dick or start some stupid shit, its just a •••••• up attitude to go through life with | ||
| Dalton_gang |
WOW! I`m with Freeflyer on this one. | ||
| Rotzaruck |
I'm kinda thinking BadWeB is a mighty tough place for folks who have no appreciation of satire. Slaughter only runs bikes off the road if he REALLY needs apart off that particular bike. He's only seriously rude and obnoxious when he's commenting on okra, and that's just a lack of understanding. Rotzaruck!!! | ||
| Paint_shaker |
We ALL make choices everyday. Sometimes those choices adversely affect our safety. While we can not avoid all situations, we can prevent most by riding smart. So ride smart! The most smiles I get out of my bike come between 40-50 MPH on some wicked twisty roads, about 1.5 hrs north east of Atlanta!!! | ||
| Firebolt32 |
Hopefully nobody is taking what I've posted out of context. People are obviously going to do what they want. Sure I've gone faster than I'm suppose to...who hasn't? Speed is not it though. The cotton tops down here are a major problem in my eyes. A guy who worked with my girl was killed when an old man had no idea the light was red and drove right over him. Impaled him into the SUV in front of the bike. A guy who works for my father missed eight months of work because an old lady drove over him and drug him a quarter mile before she was stop by another car. She had no clue that she had ran this guy over. This to me is a problem! Sure we can't stop old people from driving. At least make them take a driving test every year once they hit a certain age. | ||
| Nevrenuf |
a lady i grew up next to hit and killed a person at night and although it wasn't her fault, she has to live with that every day of her life. and as far as i know, to this day she still hasn't gotten over it. alot of this goes beyond the victim and the family. but also to whom ever is involved. and yeah, were all gonna die someday and sometimes we don't have a choice in what happens to us. | ||
| Glitch |
What else needs to be said? | ||
| Bad_karma |
Those guys got what they deserve. Stupidity should hurt. If it isn't for their knee jerk liberal react that the rest of us rides are sure to endure I don't see a down side to this. Darwin rules. Joe | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
What's interesting is that were these same two bikers obeying the law, riding withing the speed limit, and wearing all the gear but were killed by a lady in a Suburban or an old man in a Chrysler, there would be rallies to hang the cage drivers from the tallest tree. We have ALL pushed the limits. Up to this point, we haven't had to pay the price. I hope if I buy the farm, you guys will feel my death was unfortunate rather than an event to be celebrated. | ||
| Nevrenuf |
dibs on the jacket. just kidding ft. your synocism and your way with words would be highly missed around here. | ||
| Slaughter |
Maybe a little explanation is in order: I have for almost 3 decades been trying to get people to recognize and to ride within their limits, and in the past 30 years have only seen it getting MUCH WORSE. In the past decade, I have seen MUCH MORE in the way of legislation (proposed or enacted) going against motorcyclists and sportbike riders. The typical weekend here in the SoCa mountains we usually see HUGE crowds of completely untalented riders riding in large groups, dressed in "colors" - and as so often happens in groups, a few try too hard to keep up. During good weather we USUALLY see one or two killed each weekend - and almost a half dozen medevaced in ambulances and helos. Frankly, I'm tired of seeing these IDIOTS screwing up MY sport. I just decided that NOTHING we do or say will make people consider changing their behavior - therefore we may as well take advantage of it and in a SARCASTIC vein, I have decided to "encourage" this type of riding. (look it up - http://www.answers.com/topic/sarcasm) Certainly they ALL have families, survivors, grieving friends... we've ALL been there. If not yet, you will be. Surely there are ALWAYS people who were riding appropriately and were taken out by an idiot in a car turning left without paying attention... BUT we are seeing more and more and MORE people violating the laws of physics and common sense (not even talking laws of the highways here) with the inevitable result. Then we continue to complain about being "victims" of oppressive legislation by ignorant politicians and civilian groups. So, I will continue to organize rides in which people are REQUIRED to ride SOBER, and to ride within their limits. Needless to say, this is an unpopular group with which to ride. We HAVE asked riders to leave after alcohol at lunch. We have refused to let new riders ride with us who miss the pre-ride briefing who haven't yet ridden with us. So if you think that a rider losing his/her life is tragic then I'd challenge YOU do DO SOMETHING about it. Frankly, I'm out of ideas. Meanwhile, I'm ALWAYS looking for spares at a good price. (Message edited by slaughter on April 06, 2008) | ||
| Sgthigg |
Keep in mind if you have ever had you Buell up to 100 mph or more this could be you or me at anytime. Have you....ever?? If you havent had it up to 100. Wow...I am thinking you are a rariety amongst us all. When your time is up it up. 100 or 10 mph thats it. Only thing you can do is RESPECT the families greaving. To start a post off like this one is in bad taste and does not have the likings of the decent standards the majority of Bad webbers bring to this forum everyday. Just my 2 cents | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Slaughter, I completely hear what you are saying. I understand your position. I am a fairly new rider, so I guess my "faith" hasn't been as tempered by experience and disappointment in seeing folks you are trying to help kill themselves by not heeding your advice. I will ALWAYS discuss safety, skill, and ATGATT. My philosophy is that if I can save just one person, it was worth it. Deep down, I believe you do to. I get the sarcasm. My comments aren't really directed to you or anyone else in this thread. I've just seen too many of these threads follow the progression of accident--squids--they deserved it--bash the "stupid". I've even done it. I guess I would rather see an acknowledgment of the event, a search for the causes, and a rededication to becoming prophets of safety, training, skill, and common sense for our sport. Until then, I continue to blather on. | ||
| Glitch |
I hate it when people say things like..."at least he was doing what he loved when he died"... I'm sorry, but I doubt anyone loves being in an "OH SHIT!" moment... Maybe he was doing what he loved before he died... I know, it's only wording, but I always get this picture in my head of what the guy was thinking at the moment of impact... | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
I know, it's only wording, but I always get this picture in my head of what the guy was thinking at the moment of impact... "My underwear aint clean no more !! " |
