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Old_man
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was watching American Thunder.
They visited Harley design.
Hanging on the wall among many Harley designs was a picture of an old Vincent twin.
Now that was a beautiful motorcycle.
It seems they at Harley design respect it too.
I wish they would emulate it more.
No do-das there.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would really love to see an XLCR redone for 2009.
I want to see stainless Siamese pipes!
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P47b
Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 04:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Old_man,
http://www.vincentstreamliner.com/
I have to say this is the greatest guy I have ever met. Every thing he has done is all hand made for this bike. All but the engines.
Hands down he will have the land speed record for the vintage class for a long time.
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Bcordb3
Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A thing of beauty.



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P47b
Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes


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Crusty
Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a friend who keeps a Black Shadow engine in his bedroom. He also keeps a Brough Superior SS 100 in his basement. They are two of the most beautiful motorcycles ever made (along with the '98 S3-T).
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Danger_dave
Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blah blah blah - how many of them are still on the road?

Similar vintage Triumphs - still running strong - outnumber them ten to one.

They are beautiful and realistic!

:-P
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Danger_dave
Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pics of old dungers from the Classics fest are here:

http://web.mac.com/david_cohen_design/Site/Photo_I ndex/Pages/08_Classics_Festival.html
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P47b
Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 09:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dang Dave, That was harsh.
I have to agree that allot of them are used as mantelpieces.
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Bads1
Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You want the Holy Grail ??? Then the 1939 Crocker would be it. Fetching upwards of 250 grand.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 01:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>Dang Dave, That was harsh. <<

Let's get some spirit into the debate I say!
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Old_man
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 03:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I didn't know that there was a debate.
What are we debating?
I never saw a Vincent in person.
I understand that they were a rather expensive motorcycle.
Not produced in many numbers as compared to the Triumph, BSA, and Norton.
I've ridden those.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 05:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>I didn't know that there was a debate. <<

All good - Triumph man trying to start one.

I've ridden a Black Shadow. Very nice, and quite beautiful - but a lot of those old brit bikes have the gear selectors on the other side to today.

I found it hard to get used to.

And my old Triumphs used to beat them on the track too.

:-)
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Danger_dave
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 05:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

PS - if you do want to know more about Vincents, my friend Derek is the man.

http://web.onetel.net.uk/~djpeters/motorcycling/in dex.html

I get quotes about the good Old Days off him.
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P47b
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 08:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just got out of a rather hot debate on fuel pumps (station pumps) and not wanting to go any farther than what I know.
I love the old Bikes. The farther back you go the bikes had more charisma than some of today’s bikes.
I'm always impressed buy the oddball bikes that set you back and go how does that work.
Triumph & Vincent did that with me. The one that I can't get over is the Suzuki RE5. It's so strange that no one will look at it.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah - I hang out in some Brit bike groups as well.

My 'harsh' gambit would have gone over well there and got some
'Triumph's?? - they suck compared to a Vincent' type jibes back.

Because they all would know that my statement was preposterous.

Wrong audience.

Vincent made some completely screwball bikes too.

I'll dig out some pics later.
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Bads1
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just got out of a rather hot debate on fuel pumps (station pumps) and not wanting to go any farther than what I know.


And you can believe what you want.lol
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P47b
Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ok Bads1
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Mbsween
Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 12:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Did you catch edward's recap of the last vincent test in this month's cycle world? They poo-pooed the handling in a major way. Something to the effect of "...the bike is dangerous to ride...."

I've seen vincents, there were quite a few at AMA vintage days not that long ago, but never ridden one.

So Dave, do they handle that bad? or were the cycle world folks of the day a bunch of wankers?
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Danger_dave
Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 03:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I did 35mph in the burbs on the thing. I can't say.

Derek makes no mention of handling irregularities.
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Crusty
Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 06:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Vincent frames were designed over 60 years ago. How well do you expect them to handle? The one I rode didn't handle badly, but I wasn't about to try to push a bike that was built around the time I was born. By today's standards, it was slow, didn't handle and the brakes sucked. But it had charisma, in Spades!
A modern Hyundai Tiburon will outperform a 1929 Rolls Royce; but it will never be considered in the same League.
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Tom_b
Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 08:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

well said crusty! People will probably say the same thing about buells in 60 yrs.
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Mbsween
Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 08:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Crusty,
The review was from the time period when the last Vincent rolled off the line. It was a modern bike at the time of the review. Edwards was quoting from it.
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Bads1
Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Did anyone read the write-up on the two 1939 Crockers's that were numbers 106 and 107. Very intersting read.

(Message edited by bads1 on April 08, 2008)
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