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Birdy
Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

All winter long though the snow and ice anybody on a bike waved at me and I of course waved back.

Now that it's warming up a bit seems I'm not good enough for the Cruiser Set to notice.

Am I the only one to notice it's the Good Weather Bikes are a pain.

Bet half those shiny machines don't have 2000 miles on them. I know none have ever seen snow or ice! HECK I'd be surprised if rain ever touched them.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

if there is ice out and you see me on the road, do NOT expect me to wave, I am too buzy hanging on ;)
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Slaughter
Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Summer riders, BMW riders, Harley riders, Sportbike riders, Cruiser riders, Thursday riders , Northbound riders, Southbound riders. I have found non-wavers in all those groups. I'm pissed at them.

Oh, I forgot the non-wavers in the Eastbound and Westbound riders!

Come to think of it those daylight riding bastiges - yep there've been some of them too that didn't wave at me!

I forgot Daytona and Laguna Seca. Only half the motorcyclists would wave at me that normally wave.

GALDANGED BASTIGES!
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Rah7777777
Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Only the "wanna be's" come out when its warm. the true riders you can find when its 35 degrees out or raining cats and dogs out! Or some people call those over paid guys who ride those professional bikes around that track they show on T.V, real riders
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 06:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There is a very narrow band of temperature for some individuals to ride. If you will only ride when the temperatures are between 65 and 80 degrees, sunny, and low humidity, you will only get about 2-3000 miles ridden per year.

It's hard to remember your manners when you only ride a few miles a year.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 to what FB said.
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New12r
Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yup, Lots of folks dont wave, I just keep on riding knowing I am happy!
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His_and_her_buells
Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 07:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry, but I'm a fair weather rider. Cold no problem but rain and snow, forget it. You'll always get a wave from me unless both hands are required on the bars then it's a nod. I basically don't like to ride in foul conditions because it takes too much away from the enjoyment of the ride. I feel these bikes were built to accelerate fast and corner hard, and I do both of those anytime traffic permits. If the weather won't allow that, I might as well take the cage. Also accident avoidance capabilities are decreased in the wet and there's just too many idiots talking on the cell while eating breakfast burrito and putting on their makeup! I admire those who ride anytime, anywhere but it's just not for me.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I ride all year round, am very happy, and I don't wave.

Over it get.

(Message edited by danger_dave on April 03, 2008)
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Kyrocket
Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 07:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...you will only get about 2-3000 miles ridden per year.

That also happens when you have children who happen to turn 7, 5 and 2 this month and a wife who decided one masters degree wasn't enough. She's now working on #2. Did I mention her birthday is tomorrow. If I didn't do I HAVE to mention I'm BROKE.

Also +1 on what His and Hers said. I don't so much mind getting caught out in the rain (I really, really didn't like the tornado that one time, but that's another story)but I WONT start out in it. That's what the Tiota is fur.
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Brumbear
Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 09:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 to kids and family they come first
NO EXCEPTIONS
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1st47
Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Summer Riders, summer Enthusiast's. I 'll wave to just about anything on 2 wheels. I was riding North on RT, 12 in NH. last Sunday, temps around 40. Everybody on 2 wheels waved if they could bend their arm!
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Mr_gto
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 12:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So its impolite not to wave?
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Corporatemonkey
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 02:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So its impolite not to wave?

I would say so, as long as it is safe to do so.

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Badlionsfan
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 06:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

if you see me, you better wave. if you don't wave, i get mad.

first, i follow you home to see where you live. then i steal you identity to get loans to start and maintain an alpaca farm. it doesn't stop there. i will revisit your mailbox from time to time, helping myself to important documents, such as your publishers clearing house sweepstakes entry form. i'll get a picture of you, and make signs warning parents to keep their kids away from you, because you have turrets syndrome and expletives flow from you like water over niagara falls.

so if you see me, you better wave. if i don't wave back, i was probably busy doing something more important.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 06:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>and make signs warning parents to keep their kids away from you,<<

Can you do that anyway, please.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 08:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This whole waving thing is so stupid. Why do you guys get so bent out of shape when a total stranger doesn't wave to you? You can talk "brotherhood" out your ass all you want, the bottom line is you don't even know the other guy.

Do I wave? Usually. If someone doesn't wave back, do I get all bent out of shape? Not likely. It's a wave. Sheesh.

An enough about the "posers" who only ride 2 or 3 thousand miles a year, don't ride in the rain or snow, or whatever. Some people have families, jobs with long, hard hours, or other things that may keep them from riding as much as they'd like. Or perhaps they don't care to ride any more than they do - that doesn't make them less of a person.

If you don't go swimming in Alaska in January, are you not a "real" swimmer? Give me a break.

Last thursday, I left my house when it was 29 degress outside and started a 1000 mile ride south on my Firebolt with stock ergos. Yeah, it was a big accomplishment for me, but it doesn't make me a better person than the guy who rides around the neighborhood twice a year on his Fat Boy.

And just as a pre-emptive measure - before anyone says anything about the "lifestylers", take a look at how many Buell or motorcycle t-shirts you have in your closet, and then compare how you dress when you're on the bike to how you dress when you take your wife or girlfriend out to a nice dinner somewhere.

Some might be tired of the "non-waving" bikers out there. I get tired of the supiriority complex that seems to brew among us, and other brands/styles as well. Everyone needs to just get over themselves.

I'm off my soap box. I guess the main message is to stop worrying so much about other people - In the grand scheme of things, it really doesn't matter if someone waves at you.
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Ulynut
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The worse the weather, the more waves you receive. When its 35 degrees and raining, and on the interstate, even people in cars give you the thumbs up.

And if you're smart, you WILL wave at Badlionsfan.
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Spdkls
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

if we got ice down here in florida. expecially enough to be on the road, then start praying cause hell hath done frozen over . but we do get alot of snowbirds down here during our "winter months" and they rarely wave, even to harley guys. most of them are on goldwings or trikes.

and i agree with cityxslicker. if its ice, i'll be whiteknukled the whole time so no waiving.
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Rickie_d
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Slaughter - you made my day!!! That was funny…..

What really irritates me is those out on the roads that think myself as well as everyone else that encounters them is thrilled to be apart of their “parade” preventing actual riding. They also think you are a bit of an Ass even if you pass in a separate lane (as I always do), just because you are on a sportbike. Or…. riding in my space without permission, behind me where I cannot see them, or mistaking my riding pace as an invitation to race. It is the lack of etiquette that is irritating.

By the way, when I see anyone out on two wheels in snow and ice, I don’t wave at them either. Why you ask…because I would assume they were desperate enough to need to put themselves in that position and needed no distractions such as wondering if I was trying to wave them off of “black ice” (really it is clear ice on a black background). Or maybe if I wave they are insecure enough to feel obligated to wave back and loose control, crash, and possibly hurt an innocent bystander.

Either way, if it is not necessary (and it very well could be), I consider riding (unnecessarily) in ice and snow a form of Darwinism and in addition a public service of raising awareness (especially when they crash) of “Start Seeing Motorcycles”.

(Message edited by rickie_d on April 04, 2008)
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Slaughter
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I get my feelings hurt when in my community of masculine, manly men, I don't get waved to by another masculine manly man.

I think I need a hug now.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i'm a pretty laid back, cool guy. i like to keep my wave on the DL. i'm like the Fonz, the marlboro man and a hells angel all in one.

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Slaughter
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gawd Ben - that picture is well, um... PRECIOUS!

I'm all giggley!
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 04:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>and make signs warning parents to keep their kids away from you,<<

Can you do that anyway, please.


Just sit on the porch and clean a gun, muttering under your breath..and occasionally break into a semi-yelling tourettes-like string of expletives aimed at nobody in particular...except perhaps yourself.

Or do like a buddy of mine did when his bought-used $50 car tow dolly fought back and wouldn't let him load a car
. Yelling, kicking, drinking beer and sawzalling the thing into paperweight-size pieces right there at the curb got everybody's attention.

The neighborhood parents will gladly keep their kids away from you ;)
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Djkaplan
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What is it about waving to oncoming riders that gives people the warm fuzzies? I got a lot more interesting things to wave at... like that bee or that tree or the scary clowns in my head. I especially get a kick out of the wavers that hold back a second to make sure they are waving at the right brand or style of bike... like it matters or something.

Screw 'em all... but try and have a nice day anyway.
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Rickie_d
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When you overtake another rider in a pass and give them the peace sign as you fly by, do you ever wonder in that split second between going by and catching their reflection in your rear view mirror; could they have just flipped you off for being so effin happy and you never even new it?

How about at night when you ride and can’t see the oncoming riders wave, do you guys ever get anxious? Did he wave? Should I wave not knowing if I got one back? Does the other rider think I am an ass because I did not wave to their wave?

Add snow and ice, clear white or black, and the ramifications could be staggering.

I suggest that we start a nighttime waving clarification movement. To ensure that we know that we are waving at night to each other; we all install reflective strips to the fingers and palms of our gloves to not only know that a wave has transpired, but what the type of signal was involved.

If you do not wear gloves, then you are obviously not my type of rider no matter what kind of bike you ride and I would not wave anyway. Even if there was snow or ice!!!
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Rich
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 05:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd wave, but you're all jerks.
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Rickie_d
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What are you saying Rich? Are you a waver?

Let’s say you are doing Oh say, 185 mph in a westerly direction at 7:30 PM in July, and encounter Slaughter and I approaching you from the west. Slaughter is doing a “buck & a quarter” east when I pass him at one-turdy-five and flash the way down low piece sign (for safeties sake) and I do not know if he waved back(I am not sure if that would pose a problem for me). Sixty feet before we fly by each other at three-ton + a sawbuck, I flip you the bird and Slaughter close behind waves a big Hidee-Ho.

The question is what do you do?

Risk life and limb to flip me off, only at Slaughter?
Does Slaughter get pissed, and do I care?
Risk life and limb to wave at Slaughter, knowing I am giggling all the way home?
Do nothing because your reaction time is to slow to make Slaughter happy or get me back? Knowing that I am still giggling!

Or do you ponder the real question of what is the horsepower and gearing of the two bikes going east and does the first guy only have one finger on his left hand.

(Message edited by rickie_d on April 04, 2008)
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Rich
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In that case, I might wave.

If I was paying attention.

I was kidding about the jerk thing, but I generally don't wave.
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Rickie_d
Posted on Friday, April 04, 2008 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I hope you realize that I am kidding also...It is a slow day and I was having fun.
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Rich
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 07:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Of course. I wonder how many "wave" threads have been posted since Al plugged the connection in.
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Birdy
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 07:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LOL I started this whole mess over it seeming to me that the Summer riders (at least here) look down on anyone that they don't think of as "One of the in Crowd". You know them "Sheep in Wolves Clothing"!

Really had nothing to do with waving or not. I mostly ride the dirt roads (Yea, another CityXslicker only my bike's not orange...WAIT yes it is!!! ) so I don't even see most of them.

Guess I better not ever talk about Teflon Tape

(Message edited by Birdy on April 05, 2008)
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Ulynut
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

From now on, I'll only wave to you if...
you have teflon tape hanging from your drain plugs,
in the rain,
at night,
and on the Interstate.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's funny how the attitude changes when both bikes are going the same direction as opposed to opposite directions.

I never get my feelings hurt either way.
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