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Whodom
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This link was on the XL list this morning:

http://www.momentumphoto.net/eprc/03aug4/nonumbers/1019/

I LIKE it!
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Bads1
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 08:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Damn thing looks like it has a wheel base of 65 inch's
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Kevyn
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 09:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

WHOAA thatsalottamota for a sportbike! Nice to see the finished product.
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 09:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Whats are the two big square things under and in front of the motor??

Something just does not look right about it?

Its too long.
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Sarodude
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Looks more like a converted cruiser than a sportbike.

-Saro
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Tavs
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That thing looks homemade. They used 916 body upper.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In the last picture, it looks like he's going to be dragging parts soon!
The thing in front of the motor is probbably an oil cooler but it looks like a lunch tray! ;)

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Kcfirebolt
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good for Victory!

Parties are always better with more people. (john burns)
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Ara
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That rectangular thing slung under the motor, could that be an almost-remote oil reservoir? I can't imagine what else it could be.
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Nevco1
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 01:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nice...and to think all HD did was change the V-Rod cosmetically. What a bunch of narrow minded idiots!!!
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Whodom
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 01:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I believe the large rectangular thing below the engine/transmission is the oil sump- also shows in some of the photos of the Vegas that I've seen. Don't know what the other boxes in front of the engine are.

Between the oil sump and DOHC heads, that engine must be a foot taller than an XB.

There is a little info about the bike at www.cruisebikes.net:

http://www.cruisebikes.net/showthread.php?s=cbfe8dfbde7c5203c55c1530de899bcc&thr eadid=4793&highlight=victory

If the link gets broken, just go to cruisebikes, do a search for "Victory", and go to the thread by "yamahagirl".
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Rick_a
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry excuse for a sportbike if you ask me. The thing is a mile long.
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Glitch
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry excuse for a sportbike if you ask me. The thing is a mile long.
Yeah, and I bet it has a stiff clutch too!
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Nevco1
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I agree, but don't care if it is a sorry excuse for a sport bike. Think of it as a sport styler for big guys. Makes sense when you read all the posts about tall folks not fitting the new generation Buells and quit a few other sport bikes. Plus, something along this line would make a great sport touring bike, which is where I contend its real niche in the market is.
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Bykergeek
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>Sorry excuse for a sportbike if you ask me. The thing is a mile long.<<
Man... What a tough crowd...


Remember the Buell Credo, Different in every sense ?
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Glitch
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah well I was only kidding...
'Cause that's the only thing the reviewers have said negative on the new Buells...
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Cyclonemick
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 06:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry People about the negative critisism "but man that thing is ugly"
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Whodom
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 07:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Guys, you have to figure this thing is a test mule, and the cosmetics of a production bike would be vastly different (hopefully better). I bet they'd also get rid of that big honkin' cast sump before they tried to apply that plant to a serious sportbike.

At any rate, it is cool that somebody in the U.S. besides Buell is at least looking at building sportbikes.
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Wman
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 11:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Looks like the forks are kicked out kind of far for a sportbike, maybee just the camera angle.
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Rocketman
Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 12:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Why America insists on this tradition of V twin pushrod motor I don't understand. Fair play to 'em but let's face it that thing is going nowhere.

Rocket
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Crusty
Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 05:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocket, a V twin feels better than any other engine configuration. That Victory is obviously a test mule. It will be interesting if it sees the light of day. I won't badmouth it until I've ridden one. Ducatis are V twins, too; they have a reputation for going kinda fast.
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Whodom
Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 05:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocket- it's not a pushrod motor. The Victory engine has double overhead cams with 4 valves per cylinder. Great for performance, but a major reason that engine is so stinkin' tall compared to an XB.
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José_quiñones
Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 08:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Plus it's a 1507cc engine, if they knock the stroke and maybe the bore a little bit down to 1000cc the engine can be shorter.

Definetly looking forward to what Victory develops from this. It might end up looking like that Custom Victory Arlen Ness built a while ago.

edited by josé_quiñones on August 15, 2003
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Turnagain
Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Mikej
Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Let's see someone ride that cross country on a twisty road route.
CCTRR? Hmmm, food for thought.
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Glitch
Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I dunno, it kinda looks like someone's project bike. Maybe bought a couple o' totaled bikes and made something to play with out at the track. If it was more, doncha think it there'd be lots 'o rumors runnin' 'round about Buells new competition?
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Turnagain
Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Let's see someone ride that cross country on a twisty road route.
how about puttin' on front fender? LSR??

CCTRR? Hmmm, food for thought.
Googled 'Central California Traction Railroad (CCTRR)'
One too many Corona's last night -- feed me.

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M2cyclone00
Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Based on what Yamahagirl (who posted the pictures) said, it was a homebuilt. Not a Victory test mule.

Whodom, I doubt those overhead cams on the Victory do anything for performance. The piston stroke is too long to receive any benefit of a (potentially) higher reving OHC. I'd stick to pushrods & a lower engine. I'll take a Sportster or XB engine any day!
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Anonymous
Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It was built by at home by a couple of Victory employees out of a personally owned bike to run in a local club race endurance race for fun. No factory endorsed connection at all.
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



A big twin sport - touring bike - I think Kosman answered that with the Vortex - special order - lol - lol - GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Gonen60
Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 12:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That Victory looks like a Sport-Chopper..
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Ezblast
Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 12:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What you expect from Arlen Ness - lol - GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Kcfirebolt
Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Found on Motorcycle online. Answers some of the questions.

Re: New Victory Sportbike? (Score: 1)
by ZRX_bullock on Friday, August 22 @ 06:47:04 PDT
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I talked to him at the Edge track day at BIR. He’s an engineer at Polaris, as well as a CRA novice class 600 super sport (number 370) on a Honda 2fi. He said he raced in California for a number of years but he had to start out in the novice class in the CRA.
He put together this bike, as seen in the photo, to compete at a 5 hour endurance race at BIR coming up in September. Polaris was sending this frame and motor to the crusher but he talked them into letting him make it into a project bike and of course test it at track days. I got to talking to him because after one track session he came up and apologized for making a pass coming into turn 9, I thought it was a great pass but he thought it was kind of close.

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Glitch
Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Polaris was sending this frame and motor to the crusher
Do you know why?
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Rick_a
Posted on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Coulda been a prototype or a test bike
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