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Natexlh1000
Posted on Thursday, February 21, 2008 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am planning on getting myself a 2008 XB12x soon. I noticed that people are having plug fouling issues due to touching the throttle when the engine is started cold.

My 2000 X1 has never fouled a plug.
I have to use the throttle to start it every time. I crack the throttle barely open and maintain engine RPM at 1500 until warm by hand.

That having been said... Here is the question:

How different are the ECUs really?
This plug fouling crap is kinda scaring me.
Should I get a 2007 instead?
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Gschuette
Posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 01:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have an 06 that will foul the plugs if you mess with the throttle right after startup. It isn't just the 08s that do it. Just let it warm up for a minute or two at idle before riding and it is a non issue.
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Etennuly
Posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have an '06 Uly that is now at 24,500 miles. I ran the original plugs 10,000 miles and never fouled them. I put in another set of original type plugs and ran them to 20,000 and never fouled them. I put in another set of original stock plugs and have 4,500 miles on them and have not fouled them.

I had an '05 City-X with a race kit. I didn't learn how to start that bike until I had fouled three sets of plugs by trying to start it as if it were an older carburetor bike. It was me trying to start it and revving it when cold and doing cold starts to move it around without warming it up.

It seems that if there is an issue it is with operator error and sales persons with a lack of knowledge that foul them out on the sales room floor. It also seems that as of late several dealerships are sending bikes out the door with fouled plugs. The customers are finding out the next morning when it is cold out. These things should be caught in the pre-delivery, but apparently some of the sales people are letting them out running rough thinking they will clear up.
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Cataract2
Posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well, FTW in the plug millage war. My plugs which I replaced the stock ones at 10,000 miles (never fouled) with the Buell pro plugs now have 31,600 miles on them. Yeah, I should probably change them out now. Still never fouled.
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Bonjoxb12s
Posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 etennuly

I've personally seen brand new bikes ON THE SALES FLOOR have plug issues because of all the cold starts and stops.... let the bikes warm up, and don't mess with the throttle and you should be fine!
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks guys!
That's a real load off of my mind.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And the Big Rule of All Bikes applies here in full force:

Do not start the bike unless you are going to ride it for at least 30 minutes.

Most of the issues we've had here were from start, idle, kill cycles. I try not to start bikes so customers can "hear how it sounds" - that's what test rides are for!
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