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     Birdy |
Sounds like the wrong person was being booked here. http://www.jacksonville.com/apnews/stories/021508/ D8UR50DG2.shtml | ||
| Spdkls |
typical cops. arresting the easy targets instead of getting the dangerous ones. that guy was probably either drunk in public or loitering and someone called the cops. | ||
| Glitch |
typical cops. Newburgh – A Newburgh City Police officer is recuperating at home after being stabbed in the thigh early Saturday morning. Police Lt. Charles Broe said it is believed the melee was the result of ongoing gang warfare between the Barrio Benkard Kings and La’Eme gang. Officer Richard Hammer was stabbed in the thigh with a serrated pocketknife that was recovered when policed arrested a suspect. Suspects also kicked and struck the officer from behind. Hammer is recuperating at home after having his wound closed with surgical staples. Hammer had observed 12 to 15 people ganging up on another man on Mill Street at 1:45 a.m. He tried to intercede and break up the fight as the gang beat and kicked the victim in the head and torso. The victim was ultimately taken to Westchester Medical Center with multiple stab wounds and a bleeding lung. Police officers who responded for backup were able to catch the two leaders of the fight. Charged with gang assault on a police officer and assault in the first degree was Edison Godinez, 17, of Newburgh. Emanuel Flores, 20, also of Newburgh, was charged with criminal possession of a controlled substance in the third and fifth degrees. Police seized 1.8 grams of cocaine. Lt. Broe said on behalf of Police Chief Eric Paolilli, the department is extremely proud of Officer Hammer in protecting the victim from further injuries and for bravery while he was being attacked. Broe said Godinez admitted to stabbing the victim and the officer because he did not want to be arrested. I hate it that officers tend to be called typical because of the performace of few. You only here of our men in blue when the news isn't reflecting the performance of the majority of officers. Officer Hammer. | ||
| Lost_in_ohio |
Evidently the cops didn't by his paralyzed story. I wonder what the rest of the story is. | ||
| Hammer71 |
typical cops. arresting the easy targets instead of getting the dangerous ones. Never mind. Thanks Glitch | ||
| Spdkls |
i'ved lived in many cities in this country from small to large. i do understand how tough it is to be a cop. i wouldn't do it. why do you think i'm in the military. i know who our enemy's are, somewhat. i do know that traffic tickets is the bread and butter of city/state police, ie...easy targets. down here in panama city, they pretty much line up down hwy 98 and just wait. on the beach especially during the months between march and september is where they make their money arresting d&d's and underage anything. ask the girls gone wild guys. i've seen excessive force used for the right and the wrong reason. not going into details cause their are too many. lost in ohio "Evidently the cops didn't by his paralyzed story. I wonder what the rest of the story is." i'm just saying, the news usually doesn't cover every beating the cops give to overnight prisoners. also, the chief or sheriff usually will back up his guys when this happens. but when they turn on their guys like this then something went wrong and it probably shouldn't of happened. } | ||
| Birdy |
I want to say if you think I hate the cops you're wrong. I always hear the stories "Yea the cops are out to get me" Well I have never run into the "Bad Cops" and bet that 99.99% are just doing a hard dangerous and mostly thankless job. It's that .01% we remember not the cop doing his job to help you and me. After all think about it..do you need a bullet proof vest to go to work? Every time I got a ticket I'd earned it! AND I got off more than once with a warning. Now most lawyers I got very little use for! | ||
| Slaughter |
We also have a huge bunch of "typical sportbike riders" on Badweb. Fill in your own stereotypes for what is "typical." | ||
| Spdkls |
let's see "typical" in my eyes from what i see. must redline every gear to get to speed(show boat) doesn't always wave back always trying to "one up" the competition in everything if you pass them, they instantly pass you back but a lot faster in a nutshell, they kind of act like ricers(for all you car guys) Well I have never run into the "Bad Cops" live around a military base, and yes i know the military doesn't help with they way we act sometimes. i've experienced myself and seen cops behave differently, good and bad, to military. but i agree just like you said, thats just a small part of the police in the U.S. (Message edited by spdkls on February 17, 2008) | ||
| Nevrenuf |
i was over at gastonia yesterday and on the parts counter there was a note taped down from either a local or state leo(don't remember which one) but he said that anyone going over to the gap, if they are caught doing 50 or over in the 30 zone they will go to jail and their bike will be impounded. and all he was doing was giving a fair warning. i hope paint don't have no problems over there when he takes a run over that friday of MBV. my last ticket i got, i deserved it and there were quite a few times before that i should have gotten a ticket and didn't. the one's i get pissed off about are the one's that ride by a problem and because it's that time of day,(getting ready to clock out) they won't turn around and stop the idiot that almost created an accident. doesn't happen to often but it does happen. (Message edited by nevrenuf on February 17, 2008) | ||
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| Brumbear |
hope spdkls does't need a cop anytime soon JACKASS | ||
| Spdkls |
hope spdkls does't need a cop anytime soon JACKASS you must be a cop. i need cops everyday. they are the reason we don't have martial law, and be glad about that. also, read the whole post. this ain't cliff notes. its people like you that don't make arguments fun.  | ||
| Brumbear |
not a cop but have needed one from time to time is all | ||
| M2nc |
I have run across few bad cops. Looking back over the years I can think of three times in my life I have run across what I think of as a bad officer. Considering how many times I have been around LEO over the years to say these three cases are in the minority is an understatement. I have friends and neighbors that are LEO. Ulywife is working in her third police department. I have ridden along with several times LEO friends in cars like State Trooper Mustangs (Now that was fun!) Two of my friends were US Marines before becoming LEO. I have to say that considering what LEO have to deal with day in and day out, I'm totally impressed how professional the overwhelming majority of LEO are. My 2 cents. | ||
| Bigblock |
I'm not dissing anyone here, and I have a few good friends and riding duddies who are LEO's. Hammer is a stand up guy, and a hell of a lot of fun to ride with. However, one of the best kept statistical secrets, anyone in construction, tree work or fishermen all have more dangerous jobs than LEO's. In spite of all that, I still don't envy the LEO his job, and have in fact done all three of the above, and would not consider going into law enforcement ever. But, the LEO damn well should be professional, it's his job, that's what he is paid to do. There is simply no excuse for unprofessional behaviour, especially in law enforcement. And anyone using the "dangerous job" excuse should get out of Law Enforcement and go work at taco bell! (well, I suppose I would admit Hammer's job is dangerous, but he ain't making no excuses!) My penny-and-a-half...  | ||
| Jk3campbell |
First, I am a LEO and will be the first to admit there are bad ones out there. Sometimes its the good one having a bad day and sometimes its the kid who got bullied and became a badge heavy cop. The officer in the article is ridiculous. She deserves to be put away and the three supervisors if it comes out that they saw or knew about it they should be fired also. LEO are held to a higher standard than other jobs and rightly so. Having a bad day is no excuse. Society has given us the authority to enforce the law and uphold the constitution and it is our duty to do so fairly and objectively and professionally. For every bad cop you hear about there are many more who take great pride in there job and get painted with the same brush as these morons. Not to go on and on, but as far as departments using tickets for revenue. This is also a pet peeve of mine. Luckily, I work at a department where we do not get any money from tickets unless they are drug charges and then it is only a small amount. There are departments out there that still have citation quotas(for revenue reasons) and I think that is wrong but they wouldn't be writing you a ticket if you didn't break some law. Sorry for the rant. | ||
| Phatkidwit1eye |
There are a lot of times that I really want to label all cops as pricks. I will say, all of my run-ins with the police have been less than positive. However, in their defense, it's we, the people, who vote in the laws or at least vote in the people who make the laws. The laws that the police are required to enforce. Around here, they banned smoking in all public places. Guess how that is enforced? You got it, by calling the police. I can almost guarantee that most officers would rather be out stopping crime instead of writing smoking tickets. If you want less police involvement, start standing up to the people who put the laws in the books. | ||
| Jackbequick |
Controlling emotion is the key to professionalism in many occupations. If a cops yells back, initiating or returning verbal insults, or strikes out in retaliation or for revenge against a person that is under their control, they have lost it and are treading on dangerous ground. When I went through basic security training (at a somewhat "advanced" age) our mentors were a Marine Corps Gunnery Sergeant and a few NCO's who set masterful examples as they taught us the techniques and the practice of physical interactions with possible criminals. One of the key things, as the Gunny repeatedly told us, was that when you give them your anger, you are giving them control of your mind and surrendering control of the situation. The Gunny was an amazing guy. He he could deflect a hand to hand attack, apply a control hold, get you on the ground, and make you lose interest in being a bad person very calmly and quickly. It was simply amazing to watch. He could put big, strong people on the ground, keeping them under complete control while having their full attention, with only one hand on them. There was a time when I was certain that I could control a big, mean, drug crazed, perp with assertive commands and the holds and moves I then knew well, and maybe some intelligent use of a side-handled baton. And do all that with a clear awareness of what was going on. I never had to apply the practice on the job though. But I'm always grateful for the guys that will do the dangerous work when it is necessary and hope they are well trained and ready for it. And it seems fair to grant them the occasional error in judgment and application of force. I'm also glad when they take actions against their own as was done here. It is a good example for all involved. As a community, LEO's know who the good and bad cops are. But the realities of working in a bureaucracy make it very hard for the right thing to happen all of the time. I've worked for "bad cop" types and it is very difficult to change things from the bottom up in a firmly entrenched bureaucracy. So I give my thanks to The Hammer and all those in those kinds of jobs. And I try to be a little understanding too. Jack |
