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Garyz28
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just got back from a week in Hawaii. Motorcycles are extremely popular there and apparently they have no helmet law because almost no one in Hawaii wears a helmet.

I was wondering if there are any other states where they let you decide for yourself if you want to wear one.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 10:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ohio, as long as you have your endorsement (not temps) and are over 18. I believe PA is the same.
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Scott_in_nh
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm an ATGATT rider, but live in the "Live Free or Die" State of New Hampshire that does not have a helmet law.
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Wardan123
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Florida lets you decide after 21...
http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/PrintLaws.htm l
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Danger_dave
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Compulsory in Australia and New Zealand. No exceptions.
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Buellboiler
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It is your decision in Indiana.

I would say that more than half don't.
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Nillaice
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

illinois, too.
are you trying to plan a helmet-less road trip?
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Etennuly
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 11:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Optional in Kentucky, mandatory in Tennessee. ATGATT here!
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Zenfrogmaster
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's your choice in Arizona. Here's a link for all states:

http://usff.com/hldl/frames/50state.html
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Cereal
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I took a pretty big rock to the face shield doing 80mph once. Couldn't imagine what that would have felt like on my forehead.
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Rah7777777
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 11:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

its all fair game here in Texas! pretty stupid if you ask me!
But I did talk two of my friends who just got Harleys, into wearing helmets. and they have been for a couple weeks now. kinda proud of myself!!!!
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Smitty808
Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 12:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm with ya' Cereal...I caught a Pigeon with my shoulder at a little over 100 on a 1979 CB750k. Nearly took me out of the saddle. I have worn a helmet ever since.
But I prefer to have the choice. I don't want the government mandating my safety equipment (seat belts included...even though I wear them too!).
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Garyz28
Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 01:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's been the law here in California for so long it just looks strange to see someone without a helmet. I always wore one even before it was the law. I just hate having the government tell me what to do!
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Gregtonn
Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 07:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

California is the only state that does not ban lane splitting.

I think it should be allowed in slow traffic as long as you do not travel more than 10 to 15 mph over traffic speed.
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Cochise
Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 09:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No helmet over 16 years old. I wear one.
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Jlnance
Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Google turned up this:



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Jaydub
Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

NH has no helmet required, and RI is helmet for passenger only

(Message edited by jaydub on January 27, 2008)
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Birdy
Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Once you have your endorsement in Indiana it's your choice.

But I think not wearing a helmet makes a statement

"Look I'm so Stupid Brain Damage couldn't Hurt!"}
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Firemanjim
Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And I can attest to the effects of helmet vs no helmet in accidents. I have worn one since the dark ages and a full face at that. The dirt,bugs,rain,and dust/debris I cannot imagine taking that on my face,it hurts enough on the little skin I have showing on my neck.
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Swampy
Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have to confess, last summer only hours before my wife had her stroke I went for a helmetless ride on the Sportster. The only thing I could think of when each bug hit my face was
"OUCH!, Stupid.....OUCH!, Stupid.....OUCH!, Stupid....."
I learned my lesson.
I makes no sense not to wear one.
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Kyrocket
Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What about eye protection? Ky does not have a helmet law but I believe there is something about eye protection being mandatory. I personally don't go out without a full face on, and a helmet too.
It really chaffs my @ss to see a poser running 55mph with their eyes squinted so tight and tears running down their face that there is no possible way they could see anything.
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Kyrocket
Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 02:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BTW Kentucky has a mandatory helmet bill that has been introduced.
http://www.clutchandchrome.com/News/0801/News08010 28.htm
I wear one but I don't want the gov. telling me I have too. If you know someone here in Ky let them know to write their representatives and tell them to let those who ride decide.
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Rich
Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Eye protection required here. The police in Daytona may stop, and ticket you for riding with your faceshield up, unless you wear glasses.
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Brumbear
Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

PA has no helmet laws in Jersey we have helmet laws its the rest of the traffic laws we do not have
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Lost_in_ohio
Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 06:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bad as you stated in Ohio you must be over 18 and cannot be a novice which is defined as having less than one year of road experience. 32 and new you gotta wear a helmet for 1 year.
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Alchemy
Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 06:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It is probably my contrarian nature but I find it less objectionable (easier) to consistently wear a helmet when it is not a law that I have to wear it. I know that at any time I can take it off but I know it is the best thing so I choose to wear it. Human nature I guess.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Were there not a public impact for lack of helmet use, I'd completely agree Alchemy.

Unfortunately, the public must pay for scraping brains off the asphalt and for the support of families who's breadwinner just offed himself.

Helmets are one of the balancing points between free will and the security of the nanny state.
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Polacking
Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

After a career in Law Enforcement and a couple of years racing, I can say for sure that both helmets and seat belts work. But I still feel it should be up to the individual to decide.
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2008 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We'll never have a mandatory helmet law here for everybody. Won't happen in HD's back yard.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Monday, January 28, 2008 - 01:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am about as pro-helmet (and ATGATT) as a person can get, however I am also about as
anti-helmet law as a person can get because I do not believe our government needs to be
involved in every common sense decision that we as citizens make.

We need to make not wearing a helmet socially unacceptable, not illegal. Illegality leads
to our law enforcement agencies wasting time enforcing this law instead of pursuing the
really nasty criminals out there.
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