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Hexangler
Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 01:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Mike Huckabee and Barack Obama have won the Iowa caucuses - the first nominating contest of the 2008 US presidential election." BBC News.

This is going to be an interesting year for sure!

Hex

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Court
Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 06:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Turns out the phrase " a country where ANYONE can be President" . . . . is true.
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Glitch
Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 07:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Fair Tax RULES!
Congrats Mike!
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Teeps
Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Court Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008
Turns out the phrase " a country where ANYONE can be President" . . . . is true.


Court(?) for President...

Seriously; The best news I heard about the race is that Hillary lost the women vote!
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Rex
Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

court is the best one of any of those running so far.
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd vote for Court.
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Iamike
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 07:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's really nice seeing so many people getting involved in politics. Not too many years ago you could walk into a polling place and be the only person voting.
I did get sick of the constant barrage of political commercials though.
The other problem is that there are too many people on the wrong side!
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Phat_j
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 07:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i'm voting for ABH..................anybody but hillary
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Cochise
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I can see it now:

Court Canfield, what will you do about Taxes?

"Remind me to tell you sometime."
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Court
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We are in a funny time in our history and, I am convinced, on the cusp of a new era.

This is the first time I can remember, regardless of how their positions aligned with my personal ones, that we have had zero qualified candidates.

There are, in many of the current crop, some admirable traits to be certain.

What scares me is that none have ever lead anything so much as a convenience store.

The scariest thing to me about Hillary is the prospect that we have so lowered the bar that we consider "former first lady" as a qualification. If this works out for her I intend to start listing some of the really impressive sounding speeches my wife has given on my resume'.

I listened yesterday, on a call in show, where a Hillary supporter was celebrating her "strong 2nd place finish in Iowa."

The host pointed out that she finished 3rd, her 29% behind the 2nd place 30%.

"Oh no" . . came the response. . "that's a tie for 2nd and her name makes her the winner".

I think this is the way her supporters really think.

I also am having a tough time accepting Hillary explanation that Iowa is "just not open to change" as the 92% white state overwhelming gives the collective nod to a black man. Check that argument off.

What's in this for us?

Damn good entertainment, that's what.

For the coming months, we get to watch some really ill equipped mental warriors quickly skip past important issues like economy, the education system that is failing to do much to enhance out future prospects, and the wonderfully nutty bunch of folks around the world who, within the next couple years, will also have nuclear weapons and the ability to deliver them.

Times have never more demanded leadership, intellect, diplomacy and a seasoned executive. We're left to choose among junior congressmen and a former first lady.

These folks lack of acuity with regard to the issues assures that the campaign, in the coming months, will become the nastiest and most personal in my lifetime. Things like a candidates religion or the fact that a candidate, while in kindergarten uttered the words "when I grow up I want to be President" . . . I mean who didn't? . . . I thought it was aspiring to great heights and never realized it was a certain indication of an emotionally unstable person's grab for power . .. huh?

Take a look at the group. Ask which of them you want to be sitting in that school in Florida when someone whispers in their ear that Americans are jumping from the 90th floors of buildings that terrorists have destroyed. Sound like a good time for "restraint" and a "sensitive town hall type discussion". Right . . .

I'm not sure where General Joseph C. Fegan, Jr. is these days but when I served under his command in the USMC I learned what a leader was. Perhaps we need, in the future, to require at least one candidate be from Sun City.

In the period of the next 10 years America will relinquish the title "sole world super power". Times are changing. That's not a "bad thing" for us, in fact I think therein lies great opportunity. Manufacturing will be more distributed around the world, as will intellectual capital.

But . . in that time. . . . we've got a lot to learn and a real need for a leader.

I'm not a real political guy . . . . . that would be my Mom you see in the company of Presidents and Statesmen . . . but I plan on living here for a long time and have kinda become comfy. I'm not seeing that level of comfort among the current crop of candidates.

Just a thought . . . others will have other opinions.

Court
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Slaughter
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hillary isn't JUST a Former First Lady. In addition to the FFL from her marrying well, you can add Carpetbagger.
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Court
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Actually I know EXACTLY what I would do about taxes.

I'd make a poor candidate. As some may recall I was once rumored by the Topeka Capital-Journal to be a candidate for Mayor.

They called me to ask for a "quote".

I gave them one.

That pretty well made my position quite clear.

My mind has not changed.
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

it'll be interesting to see who runs as an independant or something else. at this point changing parties is an option.
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Davegess
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think it is time to fire ALL the congressmen and senators and start over.

Every national office in every state is open and we put in term limits.

Throw the bastards out...all of them.

Elect citizens to serve and eliminate professional politicians.
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 10:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Amen Davegess. Nobody is in it because they care. They are in it for the money and the glory. Why else would anyone want to be president, especially in these times of "difficulties"?
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Iamike
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 11:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Court,
Since you brought up the Obama/kindergarten thing, did you hear what he said at his winning speech? "This is just how I thought it would feel when I was thinking about it in kindergarten." Nice slam!
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd vote for Dave too.




LOL. That's funny Mike.
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

unfortunately, easier said than done dave. that is a nice pipe dream though.
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Teeps
Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I my opinion, based on life long political observation, is the voting public is shallow and fickle.
I do not think Americans are ready to elect (for president) a black man named "Obama", a white man with a name of "Giuliani", or a woman (such the likes of Hillary.)
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Bill0351
Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I keep waiting for a fiscally conservative, socially semi-libertarian, with strong streak of semi-isolationism. Ideally the candidate would have a PhD in Constitutional Law, come from a middle or working class family and have served honorably in the military (enlisted infantry if possible). It would be even better if he carried a copy of the Federalist Papers and the Constitution on his PDA, but left his bible in the privacy of his own home.

Too much to ask?

Bill
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

All else being equal, I'd MUCH rather have a President with experience dealing directly in the real world of actually producing something than a PhD lawyer.
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Court
Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

I do not think Americans are ready to elect (for president) a black man named "Obama", a white man with a name of "Giuliani", or a woman (such the likes of Hillary.)




I think you are right. A read of Scamman and Wattenberg's "The Real Majority" will explain it.

I see the Democrats taking each other out in the process and us ending up with one of the patently unqualified from among the Republican candidates.

I like that better but not much.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The end is near. Buy food, ammo, and gold.
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Teeps
Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't know if we can afford another "so called" Republican in the White House, but the alternative would likely be much worse.

I would love to see Al Gorebal-Warming run as an independent.
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Imonabuss
Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 12:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Watch the video called the Great Global Warming Swindle by Martin Durkman. Once you see this it's obvious from where Al "I invented the internet" Gore is coming!
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Doerman
Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ferris... good advice, but I'd rather do this...
Buy a Buell some fuell and have some fun
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Cochise
Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If Hillary, Obama, or Edwards is the answer, it must be a real stoopid question.
: D : p
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Trac95ker
Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You guys need to research Ron Paul. The majority of our problems are a result of not following the Constitution and the advice of the founders of this country. The govt consumes so much money through poorly run federal programs such as our foreign policy, medicaid, s.s and entitlements, that they are forced to borrow billions from China and devalue the dollar. To make up for it tax payers have to work four months out of the year to pay fed debt. Neoconservatism kills the middle and poor classes.

Ron Paul addresses all the major issues on his website. Please check it out and post your thoughts on him.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/
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Ryker77
Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ron Paul took first place from independant voters.

January 6, 2008

Tonight on local New Hampshire television and simulcast on our website at http://www.ronpaul2008.com/snippets/127/manchester -townhall/, Ron Paul will take questions from an audience of undecided voters in the Granite State.

With the New Hampshire primary just two days away, Dr. Paul will bring his message of liberty and constitutional government directly to the people-real questions, real answers, as fair and balanced as politics gets.

Sunday, January 6
5:00 - 6:00 PM ET
Manchester, New Hampshire
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Bill0351
Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 04:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake,

I don't disagree about having some experience dealing with real issues.

That is why I would like to see someone with a military leadership background. The reason I chose enlisted infantry is that commissioned officers learn to lead by being put in a position of leadership. An NCO learns leadership from the ground up. There are probably countless other careers that offer the same sort of experience. I just don't have personal experience in that area, so I didn't chose them as an example.

What I don't like are theocrats and those who seem to view the Constitution as an impediment to efficient government. To me, these sort of politicians are an insult to the founding fathers. A deep, meaningful, and scholarly understanding of the constitution should be a prerequisite to being "the leader of the free world."

What I want is a candidate who can effectively lead without trampling all over the constitution.

Bill
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