| Author | Message | ||
     Rocketman |
I'm not a big fan of polished stuff either, which is why I like my swing arm with a dull hew to it. It's also the reason I went nickel rather than chrome with the frame. Nickel mimics old school British handcrafted frames. Chrome is old school chopper. Nickel for go, chrome for show. Another aspect of nickel plate, and I knew this 8 years ago when I had the frame plated, is it ages with a slightly yellow tan. Looks well seasoned! Patrick, I had a lot of trouble with the back light, which is why I understand about printing the PCB on both sides. I had an LED go down because of a dry joint. Worse still, the LED's are linked in four banks of 5, with them laid on the PCB as two rows of 10. So when one LED went down it took the other four with it. The effect is a quarter of the light wouldn't work. I trusted a friend of mine, who said he had several LED's at his disposal, to repair it. I instructed him not to swap any of the LED's, but said he had to as the legs on two or three of them had become too short to solder back on to the PCB, so he changed five LED's in one bank, and guess what, they glowed at a different brilliance. I ended up replacing all twenty LED's with Super Brights. It's still holding up but I suspect there will be a time in the not to distant future when I will have to have a new PCB made. One that is printed on both sides that is. But yes, LED is the future. Much brighter than bulbs, and last almost forever, sort of, lol. Rocket | ||
| Rocketman |
Bill, there are two bikes that come to mind where under seat radiators were used. The Benelli Tornado, which was a bit of a sales flop but apparently a great bike, and I know of no problems relating to the cooling system. Worked well by all accounts, even with its under seat fan. The other bike is the Britten. I believe the Britten results are legendary, so I imagine the under seat radiator worked well for them too.  Rocket | ||
| Molly_hatchet |
i dont know much about british history as far as bikes go but there does seem to be a bit of something anyone with a good eye and a will to listen can garner from you....ur clever and have pride in ur country and its motorcycling heritage..and u love a good argument...jog on rocket, let all the sod arse wankers go have tea with their mums...have a pint and a nibble on me  . | ||
| Rocketman |
Thanks Molly, but I have to tell you, I still pop round to me Mum's for a bit of tea now and then, lol. Anyway, there are few, if any, sad arse whatevers on the BadWeB thankfully. I fear there maybe one in the making in this thread though, which is sad as you say. At the end of the day we are only arguing about bikes. I know how easy it is to engage in personal insult when arguing the toss, and the odd result can be rather amusing for all concerned, but to go out of your way constantly just to insult is not very entertaining reading quite frankly. Some here would do well to listen. Thanks again. Rocket | ||
| Court |
>>>>Some here would do well to listen. Gads. . . we agree twice in one day! . . . what's the world coming to. I **do** love that picture of the Britten. | ||
| Wile_ecoyote |
"I do love that picture of the Britten" +1 Such a damn shame he died, what he could have done with a little more time. I saw one in Daytona and had to be escorted away. They thought I was trying to do some type of industrial espionage. Simply amazing. | ||
| Scott_in_nh |
Scott, that you make a point of slating my S1W only serves to make you look argumentative. Now we are getting somewhere! You are still missing my point, but you're getting closer! Replace Scott with Rocket and S1W with 1125R. How would you feel if I went on about how ugly your bike is in every thread I could squeeze it into? That is how the people who honestly like the 1125R or even bought one and it is their baby feel. It doesn't matter if I like your bike or not - YOU like it, no LOVE it. That is what makes your bike cool! Just because I don't like the outcome doesn't mean it isn't cool. The people who like your bike have posted that they do, should I start to attack them too? Of course not and you shouldn't be attacking people who like the 1125R. This thread took some nice turns where topics other that the 1125 looks, performance or engineering were discussed or argued. It's already better again talking about your bike, the Tornado and the Britten. It's just one little bike, I don't think you have anything left to say about it that you haven't already said. For the record I like polished bits, but have no problem with those, including you, who don't. See how that works? Oh, and I will be adding Oberon foot pegs to my S3 they are gorgeous! | ||
| Ducxl |
How would you feel if I went on about how ugly your bike is in every thread I could squeeze it into? That is how the people who honestly like the 1125R or even bought one and it is their baby feel. Thanks for pointing that out Scott. Words of wisdom. | ||
| Molly_hatchet |
 let the games begin...i didnt even know about this thing until today...whatcha think about this thing rocket...interesting to say the least ... http://www.fourtitude.com/news/publish/Industry_Tuner_News/article_3660.shtml | ||
| Rocketman |
Well then Scott, it turns out you're the one missing the point. I spent a week debating the merits of how for example the shape of a Coke bottle is recognised the world over as a design icon. It's simply a beautiful shape that most everyone agrees upon. Then we jumped from Coke bottles to motorcycles. I put up the MV F4 as one that no one could argue against its beauty. Oh well, silly me. The American contingency were bound to throw up a few non likers, but excluding those with poor taste, there are three bikes that spring instantly to mind that ARE recognised the world over as great looking motorcycles. MV F4, Brutale and 916. Sorry if there's a few individuals around here who'd deny that. Their problem, not mine. Now we can get back to the 1125. It's not anywhere near the same league as a Coke bottle when it comes to style. I argue the 1125 looks because I have wanted to discuss its design in detail to determine why, IN MY OPINION, Buell made it so ugly when, IN MY OPINION, I see little stopping Buell designing it much more attractive given Buell started from a clean sheet of paper. So let's toss in my S1W into the equation. First off, to do so we need to look at the S1W as Buell made it. Thus we are talking about one of the best looking production Streetfighters on the planet. Who can deny it? We could debate that the Monster, Brutale, Tuono, whatever, are better looking, but truth is, they all look bloody good. So I'd say the S1W is, if nothing else, up there with the best, if not the best. What's more telling though is how we can all recognise how these beautifully styled motorcycles relate to the Coke bottle theory I suggested. If that's the case, given that my input to my S1W has remained faithful to Buells design, how is it possible that my S1W is ugly? To say mine is ugly is to say that all S1W's are. Unless of course, you wish to argue that I spoilt the looks of mine by lavishing it with exotic components. From such, I'd deduct from that argument there is reason enough to offer a comparison based on the knowledge gained, where the 1125 sits in the equation. Is there anyone here who really honestly believes the 1125 is more attractive than the S1W? I doubt it. I'd go one further and be presumptuous enough to say I bet Erik Buell likes the look of the S1W more than he does the 1125. So what of the 1125? Is it a Coke bottle design? I don't think so, and I don't believe anyone else does either. Certainly not anyone beyond the Buell crowd. What the 1125 is, where design is concerned, is a compromise surrounding individual designs that are forced together by three major things. Working and staying close to the XB platform design whilst introducing a new liquid cooled engine, and how to incorporate the cooling necessities involved whilst remaining faithful to Buells 'Trilogy' of design. Missed the point? Not I sir. I know talent when I see it. Rocket | ||
| Rocketman |
KTM are showing one of those next week at the Autosport show here in the UK. It will be the first outing over here. What do I think? Great, but it's a gimmick when you own a TVR  and I can't afford a gimmick. I'm not going to the show, but I would like to have a serious look at the XBow. Gimmick, yes. Interesting, yes. That KTM are building it, bloody marvelous. Rocket | ||
| Dbird29 |
You are really a load of crap aren't you? Do you really believe the spew coming from you mouth?  | ||
| Ducxl |
Huh?  The XB AND 1125R are lightyears ahead of the S1W.I was looking at the S1W when i bought the new (at the time) X1.Technology always moves forward.Most think the X1 was ugly.I don't.That's fine.My XB is way better than my X1,or even had i chosen the S1W,the XB still outshines the old S1W. The 1125r is an XB but with a 996 like engine.Sounds good to me My beef has always been about quality control. Scott is a gentleman,please do not troll him for miserableness.He's a better man | ||
| Scott_in_nh |
I like coke bottles too   If you like coke bottles then you must agree that S2/S3's have the most coke bottle shape of all Buells right?   | ||
| Cityxslicker |
coke bottle? I always thought it was the shape of a womans profile for the perfect left right symmetry. There used to be a series of posters out like that... of course it was 20 years ago, they need to update the series and put a 1125R up in silohette | ||
| Scott_in_nh |
Rocket I was expecting some additional comments on Brooklands. Did you have a "talk" with security because you were out on what's left of the track? On the hillclimb? Or were they just closed? Have you been inside any of the museums there?  | ||
| Scott_in_nh |
Polished but bitchin'   (Message edited by scott_in_nh on January 05, 2008) | ||
| Rocketman |
Do you really believe the spew coming from you mouth? 268 posts in this thread, you account for 7 of them. What have you actually contributed to this thread besides spew? Not a single word relating to many things discussed. So you're not here to join in, right? This isn't the only thread you've challenged me in either. If I irritate you so much, why follow me around? Are you really that sad? Rocket | ||
| Dbird29 |
A shrine to the Martyr Rocket! Do you really consider all your posts contributions? It is like Scott in NH says "How would you feel if I went on about how ugly your bike is in every thread I could squeeze it into? That is how the people who honestly like the 1125R or even bought one and it is their baby feel. " It is sad you would be counting posts. I'm just emulating the Rocket. Maybe someday I can be the Martyr. | ||
| Dbird29 |
You also need to HTFU. | ||
| Slaughter |
Like the Saturday Night Live sketch in which the young couple of apartment dwellers meet in the laundry and the young lady is impressed by the young man's explanation/justification of his serial killer status by the line: "out of the thousands and thousands of people I've met, I've actually ONLY killed 28." | ||
| Slaughter |
...and Brooklands is positively COVERED in an amazing history. | ||
| Dbird29 |
 Good one Slaughter | ||
| Ducxl |
Hey that's MY Racing red XB above BTW.Sportin' it in New Hampshire Headlight doesn't seem too bad either  (Message edited by ducxl on January 05, 2008) | ||
| Rocketman |
Scott, I was just passing whilst test riding an XR1000, and noticed the place. I turned round and rode in to what might not have been the main entrance. I saw a few planes sat around. Can't honestly remember noticing any of the old track, but the security guard grabbed my attention. He was on foot and on me pretty sharpish. I was told to leave as the area I was in was not open to the public. I politely excused my presence and rode off. The pic of BABS had me look up what I'd read some years ago. Thanks for making me look. Incredible how they dug her out of the sand and restored her. The shinny racer has got to be a Napier Railton. Probably the very one that held Brookland lap record. I know where there is a Napier Railton engine and gearbox, and the man that owns it was talking of building a racing car around it. The red open top car looks like an Austin Seven circa 1935. What are the others? Rocket | ||
| Rocketman |
Duc, that the S1W is a great looking motorcycle has nothing to do with how technology might have advanced the XB or 1125 models. What looks better. A Type 35 Bugatti or a current model Chevy Malibu? Rocket | ||
| Ducxl |
Bugatti...But now i'm so dumb I miss the point | ||
| Rocketman |
Bugatti...But now i'm so dumb I miss the point sic{The Malibu is lightyears ahead of the Bugatti.} Just playing with your S1W - XB, 1125 analogy is all. Rocket | ||
| Scott_in_nh |
The brown car at top is the 68 Dodge Charger I had in High School and college. It was styled for the guy who really wanted a vette but had to have a mid size family car. The red car was my dad's 308 GTB. Can you believe he would get a few drinks in his dinner guests and send them out for a back road ride in it with a 20 year old (me!)? Both, along with my S3, are excellent examples of coke bottle styling. A car club had a meet at Brooklands the day that I was there, that is why there are cars on the track and in the parking lot. You are correct about the Napier, stunning car. In the picture in front of it, you can see that it is off the ground! I do not know anything about homemade or cottage made British sports cars, so I cannot tell you about any of them I photoghraphed other that that little boy was so happy to be in his fathers or grandfathers car! My favorite picture from that day. The car next to it is small, so you can imagine how really tiny it is. Must be a blast to drive! I can tell you a little about Triumphs though, this one is the 1st car I ever turned wrenches on with my father around 1968. I don't recall where my dog was taking me that day....  Sorry I don't have pictures of the bikes they had there, but you should try going back the next time you have a chance, it is a stunning piece of British motor racing and aviation history! The way the poor track is crumbling, I couldn't help but pick up a small piece and brink it back to NH. The day before that visit I was at the Imperial War Museum in Duxford. Some of the things I saw there made the hair on my neck stand up, others practically brought me to tears. Both places actually deserve their own threads to do them justice, but if anybody is interested they are both worth doing a google search. Ducx1's XB seem to show up in a lot of my better pictures! Why is that?  (Message edited by scott_in_nh on January 05, 2008) | ||
| Court |
TR3? |
