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Corporatemonkey
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 06:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://jalopnik.com/340619/when-the-snow-falls-the -chrysler-snorunner-calls

How the hell could I of not know about this?

Anyone have one, or ridden one?
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 07:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

there's one on ebay right now. also lots of parts listings on ebay too. someone needs to start making these again, or at least a kit to make one out of a blast. call it the "Winter Blast". way better idea than a dirt bike.
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Jackbequick
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I saw one of those at a yard sale last summer, the guy wanted $200 for it. Looked all original and in good condition.

I passed on it because I was riding my bike, if I'd been in the car I might have bought it.

He said it was not very good for riders of the 200 pound class or so. Also that it was of little or no use on anything but hard pack or frozen crust snow that would support your walking weight.

He said his kids enjoyed it occasionally though. The best conditions for it were when a snowfall ended in very wet snow/light rain and then there was a hard freeze afterward. That would allow you to get it moving and keep it up on top of the snow. It apparently did not have enough ski and track width to get good front end flotation and track drive in anything dry and powdery.

I sort of figured that if the guy had kids, and they had not destroyed it or worn it out, that maybe it was not a "E" ticket ride. :>)

Motorized toys, you let them get in your head and they're a curse...

Jack
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Slaughter
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wow - a wider blade on your chainsaw - a rear drive belt - half a ski and a heavy mountainbike frame and you're good to go!

(kinda cool actually)
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I will see you that and raise you this. http://www.snow-hawk.com/home.aspx of course the Chrysler is WAY more affordable
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Icon12r
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Snow Hawk looks fun. I wonder how well it corners...

(Message edited by Icon12r on January 05, 2008)
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No_rice
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

one of my friends has a snowrunner sitting in the shop we build bikes in. had it for years.

those snow hawks are a blast!
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Corporatemonkey
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That snow hawk looks a little big/heavy.

I kind of like the small lightweight look of their kiddy version.
http://www.snow-hawk.com/model_home_hawk_jrx_120.a spx
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Midknyte
Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

did ya catch it? fuel-in-frame (snorunner)
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Pwnzor
Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

that thing rules!
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Scottykrein
Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://view.break.com/421680
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Percyco
Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

oh yeah !

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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was at a ski hill once and got passed by the owner's kid on one of those. Kid tried it in the moguls. All I saw was him hit a bump, him fly and the scoot fly straight from under him.
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Typeone
Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hahaa! i want one!
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's a (wait for it)............Snowped!
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Typeone
Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

been having a debate about this little snow toy today on another bike forum. a question was raised whether you would steer this thing like a motorcycle, my response was that there is no gyroscopic effect at work, so essentially, no, you would not 'countersteer' this type of machine due to the front ski track and snow as your surface. you would steer where you wanted to go, rather than 'push steer' like on the street.

i got quite a debate thrown back at me saying 'yes, you would countersteer a machine like this'. we went back and forth about it without a resolution.

i'm basing my guess on what i know from street riding, dirt riding and ski/snowboarding. i felt the front ski is guiding you rather than fighting against you as a rotating motorcycle front wheel would.

so, anyone actually RIDE one of these things that could educate me on how its similar or different to a motorcycle? i felt confident in my point about the gyro not being in the equation but without having actually ridden one, i simply dont know at this point.

care to give me fuel for my campfire?? or am i totally off?
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Having ridden the non motor version of it extensively as a kid the schwinn skibob, there is no countersteer, there is no edge carving, you cut too hard, you go down, and usually rack em over the handlebars. Which is why they get passed on to the next unsuspecting victim for the next season. ATGATT meant a cup
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 03:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ATGATT meant a cup

Did you find that out from personal experience?
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Molly_hatchet
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://2moto.com/
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Spank
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I actually have some experience with these. I have had a couple and still have one somewhere in the shed. They were built here in Hartford Wisconsin at the old Chrysler building where they built boats and various other things. They were a blast when they worked. A lot of cheap parts. For instance the track (if you want to call it that) was basically a oversized bicycle chain with rubber wedges molded to it. It would work great on packed snow or on a lake, but if you would be on too hard of a surface the rubber on the track would rip off. On the other hand if you get in deep snow thing wouldn't move.
My neighbor got a hold of a bunch of these out of some building here in town from somebody (still in their crates) and and sold them to a bunch of us in our subdivision. Didn't take long for us to start racing, now that was a blast!
So to answer your question Typeone, You really don't countersteer. Because of it being snow you more like plant it in the turn like a dirtbike or you would lean it over while you lean opposite. Your ski, because of the runners on the bottom would for the most part steer you unless it was to hard like ice pack. One nice thing with having your feet in front of you and with the pegs not to far from the ground you could maintain your balance fairly well.

Hope I answered some of your questions, sorry if I bored you.

This might help also: www.sno-runner.com

(Message edited by spank on January 08, 2008)
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Corporatemonkey
Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 03:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Molly, that 2moto track attachment looks cool. The only thing I didn't like was it was for 450+ trailbikes.

It would be cool to add one of those to a 80-100cc bike.

I know it would be slower, but it would be light enough to really throw around.
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Typeone
Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 07:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Spank, didnt bore me! thats the feedback i was looking for and how i was imagining you would ride it. countersteering didnt seem to work into the equation for me.

thanks!
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