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Xl1200r
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 07:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How long do I have to sit at rock bottom before I can start standing up?

How many times do I have to fall down and fall apart?

How many times do I have to go through this? And how often?

Why doesn't it get easier each time? Why hasn't it gotten better yet?

Can you really feel so sure of something and so strongly about it to have it amount to absolutely nothing? It's not like this is the first time I've gone through this...I'm not stupid.

I think I want a sunrise, I'm tired of the sunset.

Waiting on a line of greens and blues.
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Thumper74
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I feel ya bro. My Fiance an I lost our baby cockatoo on my birthday in October. I lost my job a couple weeks ago. I think my fiance broke up with me last night (not really sure...)... What did I do? I went for a ride.

For some, there's Therapy. For us, there's motorcycles.

Since you're in my age group, Eminem said it best...

"Rock Bottom"
That's Rock Bottom
When this life makes you mad enough to kill
When you want something bad enough to steal
When you feel you have had it up to here
Cause you mad enough to scream but you sad enough to tear

(Message edited by thumper74 on December 03, 2007)

(Message edited by thumper74 on December 03, 2007)
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Diablobrian
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 12:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I hear ya, Been there, Done that.

When you're down it seems like everyone lines up to take a cheap shot at you.

There are some things you can take out of it though, it is easy to be someone's friend when
things are going well for them and much harder when they are in a slump... So you get
to draw a bead on who the "false friends" are because they fade away and you are left with
a core group that is the real deal. This is a VALUABLE insight.





In the end though you can't let the bastards of the world beat you down. You are stronger
than that. You're used to forging your own path, you're a Buell owner.
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Thumper74
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 12:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Own the curves"

Figuratively and literally.
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Odie
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 01:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mark- when I got divorced back in '93 things started to look up for me. However, before my divorce when we were trying to make things work out it was very difficult. I never thought I could feel the way I felt. I felt like my life was over. Try saving a marriage when you're deployed around the world with very little commo. Love and emotions cause a REAL, physical pain inside sometimes. But drawing on past events in my life I KNEW things would get better. It ALWAYS gets better. It might not seem that way now or tomorrow but it ALWAYS gets better. This applies to not only relationships but work, school, and life in general. Try to think about how you are going to make tomorrow a better day. If you dwell on the bad things you can't make rational decisions. Hope I didn't sound too mushy or anything. Been thru some bad times myself........but it ALWAYS gets better.....Hope things work out for you....
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M1combat
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 03:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

One thing I've learned about life's lessons is that they are rarely painless.

One of them that I learned goes along with Brian's comments... Your friends are important. Lean on them a little. If they're any good they'll prop you up and if need be hand you a beer. They'll be around when you get clubbed in the head next time. Just be around for when they get it.

Find other things to spend time with. For me it's video games and slot car racing (1/24 scale for those that know). It'd be riding but my bike is down right now. There are plenty of things in my life right now that aren't going well at all (may move to Mexico soon... depends on the cost of sail boats...) but this is your thread : ).

Friends are the best thing.
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 05:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>>Friends and familyare the best thing.
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Rubberdown
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 06:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Keep breathing. Your sunrise is just over the horizon.
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 07:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

every time something happens that gets me to the point of wondering what i'm doing. i just think back to the guy that they interviewed in pittsburgh some 25yrs ago. had a great job,nice house and family then things went south and found himself divorced, no job and pretty much living out of his car going back to school. when asked what keeps him going he said look what i did my first 40 yrs of life, just think what i can do the next 40. hang in there, this is not the time of year to start thinking why.
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Mountainrider
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 07:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There are a lot of people distressed and disappointed with life at this time. I would love to have a better job making a decent living but it seems I am stuck in a rut. Not much of a Christmas this year.
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T9r
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 08:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If I didn't have a faith in God, the Bible and prayer I don't know where I would be.

I thought this video was extremely interesting: The paradox of choice. The more choices you have the less happy you are.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the words, guys. It's not they weren't for nothing, but I already know that things will turn up sooner than I think. It's just a tough pill to swallow sometimes.

About a year and a half ago I was hit with news that literally crippled me, and I was a mess for a pretty long time - it was one of those times when you thought you had you a good idea of the general direction your life was headed (not all the details, but the big picture), and in an instant, it was all gone.

The problem I'm having now is I've felt like I've made much better decisions regarding all this - but it turns out that my better decision led to something that means more than the power of words can describe, and now I have to learn to live without it...at least I think I do...who knows at this point...

I just wish that having gone through this before would have made it all easier somehow, but it's not. It's actually far more difficult, and taking longer to move through.

I wish I could just ride, but it's 20 degrees here and the ground is covered in ice. Anyways, riding is good therapy, but in this case it hasn't proven to work. My mind is always on this one thing and nothinig I do seems to clear it enough to forget. I get distractions fairly often and I'm still able to smile, but it's still always on the back of my mind.

I have found who my real friends are - luckily I found that a year and a half ago when I had to deal with something similar. Two of my closest freinds decided to betray me, and that wound hasn't yet healed. I'm not one to hold grudges, but this was nearly unforgivable.

I have a great set of friends though, and while they're all willing to listen, only a handful are willing to give any advice, and there's really only one who says anything that doesn't just depress me more, and actually gives me a little hope - I just hope it's not for nothing.

I keep stressing about Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve...
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New12r
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I know how ya feel!

I keep looking to my family and the friends to keep my head up!
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Nocompromise
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

One day Solomon decided to humble Benaiah Ben Yehoyada, his most trusted minister. He said to him, "Benaiah, there is a certain ring that I want you to bring to me. I wish to wear it for Sukkot which gives you six months to find it." "If it exists anywhere on earth, your majesty," replied Benaiah, "I will find it and bring it to you, but what makes the ring so special?" "It has magic powers," answered the king. "If a happy man looks at it, he becomes sad, and if a sad man looks at it, he becomes happy." Solomon knew that no such ring existed in the world, but he wished to give his minister a little taste of humility. Spring passed and then summer, and still Benaiah had no idea where he could find the ring. On the night before Sukkot, he decided to take a walk in one of the poorest quarters of Jerusalem. He passed by a merchant who had begun to set out the day's wares on a shabby carpet. "Have you by any chance heard of a magic ring that makes the happy wearer forget his joy and the broken-hearted wearer forget his sorrows?" asked Benaiah. He watched the grandfather take a plain gold ring from his carpet and engrave something on it. When Benaiah read the words on the ring, his face broke out in a wide smile. That night the entire city welcomed in the holiday of Sukkot with great festivity. "Well, my friend," said Solomon, "have you found what I sent you after?" All the ministers laughed and Solomon himself smiled. To everyone's surprise, Benaiah held up a small gold ring and declared, "Here it is, your majesty!" As soon as Solomon read the inscription, the smile vanished from his face. The jeweler had written three Hebrew letters on the gold band: _gimel, zayin, yud_, which began the words "_Gam zeh ya'avor_" -- "This too shall pass."
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Brinnutz
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Been here for 2 long years man...Hopefully you don't have to wait this long.

Wait, you guys are telling me this isn't forever? What's it like to be normal? I've forgotten...Nothing's been the same since I made the biggest mistake of my life and walked away from my dream...God, here I go, back to the pit...

Well at least you have a job...

(Message edited by brinnutz on December 04, 2007)
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Xandersam
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Screw depressed, screw normal Go for Happy and Healthy. It's just like riding: Where you focus you will go.

Just my .02
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Odie
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This advice applies to just about anything in your life......... I was in the 101st at the time and we had just returned from a long, crappy 6 months in Somalia, getting shot at everyday and night. We were all at the Officers club partying one Friday night, glad to be alive. I was in the midst of my divorce feeling crappy and all. My Battalion Commander walked up to me (he knew what I was going thru) and said- "Odie, you can't make anyone else happy unless you, yourself are happy." It took s few days for his words to sink in but they are very true indeed........
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Danny_h__jesternut
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Perseive,Perspective. Very important.
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Dynasport
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We all have bad days and I am not saying that my problems are anything to compare to yours, but today I was really down. I was feeling really backed into a corner and not sure what to do. I guess I was talking to myself in my head and I asked myself, "what am I going to do now?". The only answer I had then or now is to keep getting up in the morning, putting one foot in front of the other. That may not make sense to anyone else, but it has made a difference to me. Whatever happens, all I can do is keep getting up and doing what the day brings.

I have a strong faith as well, but that does not exempt me from problems or uncertainty about what to do next.

My advice to you is to just keep getting up in the morning and doing what needs to be done. Even when it isn't fun. Even when it doesn't seem to be helping. In the words of Jimmy V, "Don't give up...don't ever give up!"
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Mountainrider
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nice topic and great replies. I would love to have a different job. The stress is killing me but I do not know what in the world I can do. There is not many jobs here in the mountains and what jobs there are pay little to nothing. None have insurance or any kind of retirement. If I did not have to raise my two grandsons it would be different. I love them just as much as I love my own children but it is tough being older and trying to keep two young boys happy. Life gives all of us different agendas and we have to accept them and make the best of it. I would just like to be able to take a break and see some country before I get to old to enjoy it. I just do not think that is to much to ask for.
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Hexangler
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 07:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

HAWAII, Big Island, Hilo to Puna. Take backpack, rent car, relax.

(Message edited by hexangler on December 04, 2007)
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Xl1200r
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

HAWAII, Big Island, Hilo to Puna. Take backpack, rent car, relax.

I'm thinking about a trip - not sure about the by myself aspect right now, but I do have some vacation days to use, though I'll have to give up the New York to California trip.
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There exists in the world an electrical panel. On it is a red button. There also exists a crazy person sitting in a chair in front of this electrical panel.
When this crazy person pushes the red button, everything that we know and love will go away.


Never sweat the small shit.




Keep breathing. Keep working. Keep loving. Know that nothing worthwhile is ever easy.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Keep breathing. Keep working. Keep loving. Know that nothing worthwhile is ever easy.

Ha... that's almost funny. Loving is what got me into this position in the first place. If I could stop, at least for a little while, I'd be a lot better off. But, at the end of the day, I'm only reminded of the song (call me cheesy if you want) by Martina McBride, when she sings:

You can love someone with all your heart
For all the right reasons
In a moment they can choose to walk away
Love 'em anyway


I know, sounds cheesy, but whatever. A lot of folks are giving me advice regarding all this, but for the most part they all expect me to do something that my heart is telling me isn't right. I've always been one to get everyone's opinion on something only to go and do whatever it is I wanted to do anyways.

If nothing worthwhile is ever easy, then I should be gearing up for the greatest surprise of my life. I just hope if that's the case I can stay on the rollercoaster long enough without throwing up and going home.

(Message edited by xl1200r on December 05, 2007)
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Thumper74
Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No one can make decisions about your life except for you. We're trying to make one of our own feel better because chances are you aren't the first person to have a breakup.

I'm 24 and I've been seeing my high school sweetheart off and on for 8 years now. We've been consistently happy for three straight years and a few nights ago she pulled the plug. I decided that we can't keep going around like this. Sure, it sucked. We were going to get married and now I'm back to square one. I'm glad that she/we figured out the incompatibility before we got any deeper. I'm taking it easy, riding my Buell and focusing on what it takes to make ME happy. If you think the decision was made in error, talk to the person find out if it's reconcilable. If it's not, take your time, grieve and move on.
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Indy_bueller
Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you keep riding East long enough, eventually you will see the sunrise. You can't always choose the circumstances you find yourself in, but you can choose how you deal with them. Keep on rollin man, it will get better.
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Ridrx
Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Appears as though I'm going to be moving back to GF7.0 from W1.0 myself. Found out 2 days ago she's leaving at the first of the year, laid off from my union job 2wks ago and on top of the holiday's I get the distinct pleasure of spending my Dec.20th b-day alone. Not looking for sympathy or anything(my dad used to say"if you're lookin' for sympathy, you'll find it between $hit and syphillis(sp?) in the dictionary"), just wanted you to know that it is possible to move forward no matter how dark things seem(of course I ride a Firebolt so I'm USED to moving forward in the dark. LOL) just keep focused on something and let time do it's thing, it really does heal all wounds(may leave a scar but scars add character right?).

>>> "This too shall pass"

...so very true.
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Thumper74
Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Off topic... Rdrx, that's an awesome helmet!
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Xl1200r
Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm in Boston for the next two nights for work. Doesn't get much more each than that, and I think the balcony of my hotel room faces east.

The crappy part is this will always be her town to me - she's wanted to live here her whole life.

James, we have talked about it a TON. She cares about me geatly, loves me, etc... basically everything is there, but the "spark" isn't there all the time, and she needs that. It used to be, be we did a lot of fighting about a topic that is fading away at this point. But the arguments took their toll, so here I am.

She actually said "Everything You Want" by Veritcal Horizon was me in a nutshell. She's tried really hard for a long time for us, but that "something" is just missing for some reason. Everything else is there.
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Torquemonster
Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You cannot truly appreciate the good without suffering through the bad.

I have NO idea how bad your situation is but remember that it could almost always be worse.

Whenever things get bad for me, I go somewhere private and take a minute or two to reflect upon what I have and what Im thankful for in spite of all the bad shit that gets slung my way. I always come out of it with a healthier perspective.
Keep your head up, bueller. Press on and trust that everything happens for a reason.
Just make sure that you stick around to see it all unfold before you.

And as soon as you can take a ride, GO! The grin will do you some good!
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