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Mutation_racer
Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

just wondering if there's any mutants out there, like my self that can't stop spending money on there reef tank.
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm surrounded by Salt Water, fish and reef, sometimes ice bergs.

Why would I want to bring that inside?

Seriously though, I know a few people who are into that big time and the colors of the fish are amazing.
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New12r
Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Lets see some pics!! Sheese...
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Stealthxb
Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Never been into marine tanks but I have had African Cichlids for years.
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Hexangler
Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mut,

We did that for a few years, I still have a 55gal reef tank full of green algae, red slime, and one very friendly clown fish. I have a "nano" tank as well with live rock, another clown (black) and a snail. If you don't put 10 hours a week into them, they go bad fast, and there is no recovery except MONEY. Beautiful while they last though.

Hex
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Mutation_racer
Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hex you got that right. I have a 150g reef/fish, and my yellow tang love to just kill other fish
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Freezerburn
Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 12:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Never had a marine tank but used to breed african cichlids. I then moved on to Poison Arrow frogs. Way less maintenance and all of the beauty. It's also fun to watch them hunt down crickets or little fruit flies.

One day when I have more time, I will try a marine tank.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a 55 gallon tank with local domestic fish (all fresh water). It's fun to catch them, raise them for a while, then let them go back.

I currently have a small mouth bass that is trained to jump for food (seriously). 4 inches long and he hurts your finger when he gets a good run. I'll breed him into a man eater, then let him go back into the Little Miami river. Beware canoeists everywhere! : )

Freshwater local domestics make maintenance almost trivial. I just pull out 10 gallons with a siphon vacuum (off the bottom) every two weeks or so, and top it back off with water right out of the tap.

I need a new catfish, my last one got way too big in just under a year and I let him go in my local pond while it was still warm...
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Freezerburn
Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Reep- I used to raise domestics when I was in high school. Tres fun. I had a Pumpkinseed Sunfish that would eat out of my hand and would jump for worms too. He would get all excited when I would enter the room. Coolest fish I ever owned. Even cooler than my monster Frontosas.
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Hexangler
Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've always wanted a sunfish or small mouth bass, but keeping game fish in captivity is illegal here in California. And I have a fishing business...

Hex
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a 150 gallon freshwater aquarium built into the wall in my basement. I've been into the hobby since my teens but never did the salt tanks because of the cost and high level of maintenance. The fish sure are pretty.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Seems stupid Hex, what's their worry? They afraid bluegill and small mouth are going to become endangered?
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Bjbauer
Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have had reef tanks for years. Never get tired of looking at it. Started with a 55gal fish only, converted it to a reef tank. Now have a 75 with a 30 gal refugium (Ecosytem), lots of live rock, corals, fish inverts etc. Always a work in progress. Very peaceful, if a bit frustrating once in a while!
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Hexangler
Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I can only guess that it's illegal because none of the black bass family is native to our waterways (or any of yours for that mater). The fish and game want to keep control over the species as best as possible. You all have probably heard how they "managed" to poison an entire lake (Davis) to get rid of Northern Pike invasion, well they killed all the fish but the tenacious pike. Stupid as it seems, I'll still respect this law for business sake.
Hex
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Freezerburn
Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hex- you might be able to source captive bred specimens meant for pond use. If they are not able to reach a natural waterway, you might be OK. For example, we can buy Gambusia (mosquito fish) up here in Canada for use in backyard ponds.

Every state (and province) has its own regulations. Their big concern is if the fish are flushed, they may find their way into natural water ways (hopefully the sewage treatment would be better than that though).
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Danny_h__jesternut
Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 07:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I kept a 30 gal marine for many years. Damsels,(Blues & Dominos) Maroon Clown, Dwarf Angle. Once set up, cycled in, easiest tank I ever kept. I've had tanks since I was a little jester too. Since the big move no tanks(7yrs) I miss um.


OH SANTA a 55 would be nice.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What do you use to catch a black bass? Where do they hang out?

I'd like as broad a collection of local fish as possible for my tank...

Crappie don't do well, they only eat live bait. Thats a lot of work.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah - pics please.

I lived right next to a big coastal lake back in Aus. Had a saltwater tank there. I could run fresh lakewater through quite easily - had it stocked with sea horses and shrimp that I netted from out front of my house.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

OOH OOH, ME ME!

I like my fish with drawn butter and lemon juice!



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Bads1
Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is my tank. Its fresh water. 140 Gallon.














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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 08:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Those oscars a cool fish, but hard to keep happy... I'd love to go sport fishing for them someday, I bet thats a hoot!
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Slaughter
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 09:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I kinda thought this was gonna be an underwater hunting thread.

I do some hunting and photo work on scuba. Don't have the lungs and stamina to do the REAL hunting as a freediver.
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Mutation_racer
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hay guys how do i change the size of my pic's to load them on the bw. do i do it through the camera
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You could dumb the camera down to shoot lower resolution, and that would probably work, but its better to shoot them at high res then resize them.

People have recommended XAT, I never used it.

I use Adobe Photoshop Elements... $80 or so, but useful for a lot of different things. The have a nice "save for web" feature that will resize and adjust quality.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Pwnzor
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nice Oscars by the way... funny how South American and African fish fight when they're smaller but when they get that size they just don't care anymore. It's like they learned tolerance somewhere along the way.

These days my fish tanks are all up in the rafters of my garage. I have three small ponds out back which are host to some red-eared sliders, a white Koi named 'Old Whitey', two large American Bullfrogs and a myriad of plant life. It's very peaceful and less maintenance-intensive than a reef tank. When I was a younger man, I worked at 7 Seas Tropical Fish in Long Beach, CA and I used every penny I earned to feed my fish habits. My friend's dad owns Poseidon Aquatics in Gardena, the largest distributer of fresh water tropicals in Southern California. At one point I had 22 fish tanks of varying size from 5 gallon to 240 gallon in my living room.

The wife just won't have it any more.

Here's one of my frogs.

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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



Nope, I love the freshwater biggens alot better.
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Bads1
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pwnzor,
Actually the only African I have is just the one. The tank used to be all african's but he was the one I couldn't catch. At the time he was 3 inches long. Now hes about 7-8 inches.
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Hexangler
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)





Buellina, I'll see your MUSKY, and raise you one HAWG!

Anadromous baby!!!!!!

Hex
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 04:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll see that poop fish and go all in with a blue Walleye.
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Bads1
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That ain't no Musky.... not in this country anyways.lol Nice salmon,but I got a bigger one with big old hooked nose.
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"big old hooked nose"

Its called a kipe. The Walleye was from Ontario. You want Musky? How's about a 45lber?

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Pwnzor
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 09:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Hypno-Toad likes fish!


African cichlids are great fish, a lot of fun to observe, especially mating pairs.

My all-time favorite fish was a Jack Dempsey I had named "Trouble". I had him in a 40-gallon tank by himself because he just couldn't stop killing every other living thing in sight. He was on a bench with 5 other similar size holding tanks, with open tops and animals kept disappearing from the neighboring tanks.

So one night as I was going about my business, I hear this loud *splash*, and I go to investigate. WHO did I find in the wrong tank wreaking havoc, but Mr. Trouble. He had jumped into one of the other tanks and was terrorizing its population.

Apparently he had been "visiting" his neighbors each night for a little midnight snack and then jumping back to his own! So after that I put a lid on him for good.

Keeping fish of any kind can be quite an adventure.
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