| Author | Message | ||
     Glitch |
This is an unusual paragraph. I'm curious how quickly you can find out what is so unusual about it. It looks so plain you would think nothing was wrong with it! In fact, nothing is wrong with it! It is unusual though. Study it, and think about it, but you still may not find anything odd. But if you work at it a bit, you might find out! Try to do so without any coaching. | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
Gotcha!!! No E's | ||
| Bcordb3 |
no double spacing after punctuation marks. | ||
| Bcordb3 |
and what grumpy said, no Gotcha! | ||
| Glitch |
Yer quick Grumpy! | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
I had a little luck there, I was reading just the other day about a guy who wrote a whole book like that. I've not read it though. Sorry to burst your bubble so soon;  | ||
| Pwnzor |
Not fair, I just woke up. Uhhhhh.... no e's!!! | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
Ah well, I have the advantage of being a good few hours in front of most of you. The other side of the coin though is that I miss all the evening stuff, as generally I's in my bed sleepin! | ||
| Cityxslicker |
How about there is no topic sentence. Not a single object, and it seems to prattle along for quite a bit in a circuitous syllogistic cycle spooling into a run-on that would get any teacher with a red pen way too happy to make corrections. Now where is my coffee?  | ||
| Jackbequick |
As a former cryptologist, I spotted it immediately. Statistically, about one out of eight letters in English are the letter "e". http://www.simonsingh.net/The_Black_Chamber/freque ncyanalysis.html Grumpy, From the link above: "In 1969, the French author Georges Perec managed to write a 20-page book called 'La Disparition' without using any words containing the letter E. Amazingly, the book was later translated into English by Gilbert Adair, again avoiding the use of the letter E." Adair's book was titled 'A Void'. Jack | ||
| Glitch |
Gadsby A Story of Over 50,000 Words Without Using the Letter “E” by Ernest Vincent Wright http://www.spinelessbooks.com/gadsby/ Jackbequick, cryptology has alway fascinated me. How long did you work on the 340? | ||
| Xbullet |
now i don't feel so bad about our wife vs. girlfriend computer program thread.....  | ||
| Danger_dave |
>>As a former cryptologist,<< I've read all the Superman books too! | ||
| Danger_dave |
'I once wrote a children's book, by accident' Martin. | ||
| Etennuly |
Have you tried to write a paragraph without a "P" in it? It looks like this: ARAGRAH !!!!  I'm sorry........I needed to take a "P"........I shouldn't have taken both of them! | ||
| Brumbear |
It aint got no scotch naked broads or motorcyles in it | ||
| Jayvee |
After 50K words, he couldn't think of a Title that also didn't have any E's ? | ||
| Bigdaddy |
01011 11001 10111 (no start/stop bits) is the analog crypy. Blend it up, add a 100 bits of spread to it, sinking it down to just above the noise floor, and you'll be cooking with gas. 2 X HMF=BW Great stuff Jack, G2  | ||
| Jlnance |
I always like your posts Greg. | ||
| Glitch |
After 50K words, he couldn't think of a Title that also didn't have any E's ? How many E's are in the title Gadsby? | ||
| Crusty |
"A work of writing that deliberately excludes particular letters is called a lipogram." | ||
| Bigdaddy |
I always like your posts Greg. ,,,and you should've corrected me on my error up there I'm pretty sure that Jack will see my glaring omission and do the Navy chief thing and straighten me out. G2  (Message edited by bigdaddy on December 02, 2007) | ||
| Jackbequick |
Glitch, What is a 340? I was a Navy cryptologist, did 26 years. I was basically a "collector", trained to copy Morse code. Of course, as you progress, you read more and analyze more and do other things. And there were a lot of other jobs along the way. There are literally hundreds of different jobs and skills used in accomplishing the work done by the service cryptologic agencies. Very few, if any, are actually sitting around hacking cryptograms as far as I know. :>) Here is a overview of sorts of the U.S. military cryptologic services: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Security_Serv ice Spotting the lack of e's was a fluke of sorts. Maybe it is because it is always my first approach at solving any kind of puzzle or cryptogram. I do pretty good sometimes when I watch Wheel of Fortune. :>) I have been away from it all since 1990, it took me a while to figure out what Greg (he was a service "spook" too) was talking about. Then it came to me: 01011 11001 10111 = J B Q in the Baudot code used on teletype machines. I'm still working on the "2 X HMF=BW" thing and the missing omission. Jack | ||
| Jlnance |
I think that formula has to do with spread spectrum radio communication. I'm guessing BW is bandwidth and F is frequency. I'm not sure what H & M are. | ||
| Bigdaddy |
I knew Jack would get it -- I dropped back to Baudot to make sure "2 X HMF=BW" There's my problem It should read 2 X HMF + KS=BW. Multiply the highest modulated frequency (HMF) by 2 and add the keying speed and you have the absolute minimum bandwidth. The spread multiple will increase the bandwidth, but reduce the HMF -- the more blend you get with the noise floor the less likely that your transmission will get any attention. All drilled home by The USN Chief's Club, NTTC Corry Jack, I'm not sure what that is either, but in lieu of knowing that please enlighten us on the R-390 "spinning and grinning." | ||
| Glitch |
The 340 is a cryptogram sent to the San Francisco Chronicle in 1969 by The Zodiac Killer. Many have tried, but it's never been solved.  | ||
| Jackbequick |
Geez Greg, you must have been a T Bird or Mat Crank, that is way beyond the technical needs or skills of a simple ditty bopper. I liked the R-390. It was almost as good as a well-maintained SP-600. You could get yelled at for "spinning" a R-390, it played hell with the mechanical nightmare of gears, clamps, and rods on the tuning capacitors(?) that lived inside. Glitch, Okay, now I get it. I was living in San Francisco when I went into the Navy in 1965. So I followed the Zodiac thing with some interest as it unfolded because of having lived in The City. One of the four Zodiac cryptograms was solved, here is one accounting of that: http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorio us/zodiac/8.html The other three remain unsolved. So the key or keys were changed along the line. You can regale yourself for hours with Internet links on the topic. On the actual process code breaking, I took one advanced analysis course that delved pretty deeply into that. I quickly learned that I was not "gifted" in that area. I got through the course but the actual code breaking part was a struggle. Jack | ||
| Bigdaddy |
"T Bird" I haven't heard that in a long time | ||
| Xandersam |
BTW MKT GWW NVN............. Oh, sorry: By The Way Many Kids Today Go Whole Weekends, No Vowels Needed |
