| Author | Message | ||
     Jasonblue |
Just wondering if anyone took part in the televised IQ test on Fox. Have to say it was pretty interesting. I ended up with an IQ of 114, far from a genius but above average, I can live with that. One fact; men are smarter than women on average (by 2 points). | ||
| Blake |
I flipped back and forth while watching the hockey game. One thing they never mention is the margin of error of the stats. Probably well over the two points advantage scored by the men. What I'm still cracking up about is that the blonde chicks and body builders tied for low score. LOL!!! Would you rather be smart and ugly or dumb and irresistable? | ||
| Court |
>>>Would you rather be smart and ugly or dumb and irresistable? Could you repeat the question? | ||
| Road_thing |
I didn't realize I had a choice! | ||
| Bomber |
it's important to remember that IQ tests measure your ability to take IQ tests . . . .they are very biased culturally, linguisticly, and in terms of information you've been exposed to . . . they are not much good at measuring "intelligence," which has yet to be well defined, making it difficult to measure (though I'll add, before someone else does, that strides have been made in the last 20 years to create a test that more accurately measures knowledge here in the US that is less culturally biased than previously) | ||
| Spiderman |
Your IQ must not be too high if your watching Fox.  | ||
| Mikej |
A test is only as good as the people who wrote it, and only as good as they understand the objectives of the test and the participants taking it. | ||
| Uwgriz |
If I remember right from my psych class, isn't IQ a measurement of your level based on age, as in the IQ of a twelve year old who possess the intelligence expected of a 15 year old is (15/12)*100 or 125? That being said, I remember the professor saying that because of this, IQ is not really a relevant measure of the intelligence of an adult. I could be wrong as it has happened before. | ||
| Sickquad |
As seen in the above comments above on the IQ test, for every test which is given, there are 5 excuses why it is not valid. It is ok to realize you are stupid. My IQ is 139, I foget what that means though. | ||
| Uwgriz |
It is ok to realize you are stupid. I'm going to assume that was said in jest so that I don't have to pick apart that post. | ||
| Ara |
It means you're exceptionally good at taking IQ tests. There is no direct way to measure intelligence. Even developing a definition of intelligence would be a difficult challenge. One thing about IQ tests, though, is that they produce very repeatable results. | ||
| Dasxb9s |
Huh... what??? | ||
| Bomber |
Ara's correct, of course . . . .the difficulty lies in just exactly what you've repeated (much like ISO9000, but I digress, again) . . . . good research has shown that folks that do not live in the suburbs, come from families for whom English (actually, US English) is not the primary language, and ar enot well educated test more poorly than do kids from the suburbs, etc etc etc . . . . one educator used to refer to the standard 1950s and 60s IQ tests as white suburban-student detectors, with a fair amount of validity | ||
| Court |
>>>isn't IQ a measurement of your level based on age, as in the IQ Ergo...a plausible explanation why the likes of Bomber, Thing and I were required to relinquish the MENSA cards at age 40?  I'm not getting old, my denominator is just increasing! | ||
| Mikej |
Numerator = how you think you feel at the moment. Denominator = how you feel the morning after. | ||
| Bomber |
MENSA Card . . . .. oh, my, Court . . .. ya need a twenty til payday? if not, why are you buttering me up? my work history is illustrative of two things . . . stubborness is stronger than smarts, and entropy is winning mensa (smile . . .thanks, bro) | ||
| Blake |
Most tests are very much language dependent. If English isn't your first language an english IQ test will be very unfair to you. The basic munber pattern and shape pattern stuff seems to transcend the language pitfall though. Ever hear of the "Emotional IQ"? It's a much more valid predictor of success and happiness than raw intelligence. One of my favorite movies, Forrest Gump, illustrates that concept perfectly. "Ah may naught be ah smart mahyn, but ah know whaht love is." That was a few years after... "Ah think ah soiled your room mate's robe." | ||
| Jssport |
cultural biased IQ tests ??? just another tool of the man to keep the brothers down | ||
| Ara |
Well now, that opens a wonderful can of worms: Is it better to be delirously happy because you are abjectly stupid, or is it better to be miserable because you're analytical enough to know the difference? I vote the latter simply because in that scenario you'd be smart enough to do something about it and motivated to act. A little background on language specificity of tests: Years and years ago the federal government used an entrance exam called the PACE Test. It was a 6 hour battery of very, very English oriented tests - reading comprehension, etc. In a work environment that is directly dependent upon English communication, it was a very good predictor of an applicant's value as an employee. As such, it discriminated between worthy and unworthy applicants. That was exactly what it was meant to do and that was why it was abandoned. Discrimination is a bad word, so the test was deemed to be bad too. Now there is no test. Title 5 of the US Code specifically states that all employment decisions in the federal goverment will be based upon a single criterion: merit. There are only but few exceptions: Veteran's Preference and Affirmative Action. Sadly, in the absence of any means of measuring merit, the federal government is now in violation of its own precept. And you, Mr. and Mrs. Taxpayer, are paying for a substandard workforce that reads and writes on average at the junior high school level. | ||
| Mikej |
Actually the more one learns, the more they learn how little they know, and the smarter they are the more content they tend to be in life. It's all a matter of perspective. Life is life, period. | ||
| Dasxb9s |
In close to 28 years in law enforcement... thousands of defendants... tons of personal property to inventory and return to the family or attorney... I never... not even once... found to be listed on the inventory sheet... a MENSA membership card. On the other hand... haven't see any on my side with MENSA cards either. Hmmmm could that be significant???? | ||
| Cjmblast |
Life is life, period. And life is Good !!! You guys are way over analysing everything !! LOL CJM  | ||
| Uwgriz |
He who knows not he knows not, knows not. He who knows he knows not, knows a lot. | ||
| Mikej |
Deja'vu | ||
| Uwgriz |
Not really, it just seems like we've been through this before. | ||
| Sickquad |
Like I said earlier, more excuses. | ||
| Aesquire |
I got in trouble correcting errors in the ASVAB (armed services vocational aptitude battery ? been a while). "I don't care if you change my grade, I want you to fix the test so the results aren't messed up in the future" was not (I found out) the way to win the colonel's heart. (especially when I pulled the dictionary off his desk to point out the correct answer) | ||
| Fasteddieb |
Could it be that most MENSA's are smart enough to realize they don't need to be in a "smart" club? | ||
| Sportyeric |
Maxim magazine had a set of IQ articles last year and said that the fellow with the highest IQ in America (192) worked as a doorman at a tavern and was working on the "Theory of Everything" as a hobby. (fitting gravity into q ant m mechanics.) (Sorry. Still don't have a keyboard that works.) Had a pic of a big biker-type on a Harley. The one with the second highest was on welfare. Before anyone says that reading Maxim indicates the same thing as watching Fox, I'll swear I only got it for the articles. | ||
| Mikej |
Yeah, right, uh huh, sure, thanks for playing...
According to them I be a genius, at least I ain't high. I think I'll just stick to bikes and stuff, much more fun than this IQ deal. Have a very nice day. |
