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Dk1201
Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 08:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dan here.
Ok guys, I just bought a 99 S3t today and rode her home. The guy I bought her from and original owner purchased last year in Feb. knew little about the bike ie. recalls maintainence etc..
Example; he said the seat was hard to remove. Then I showed him the release lever underneath. He was surprised. He said it always starts and runs good. It didnt and it was down 2 quarts of oil. I got her running (dead battery) and took her home (30 miles Hwy).She bucked and coughed at first and the engine lite went on at idle a couple of times but seemed to clear up after a while.
My Question is where to go from here? whats a good source For owners manuals? Recall info? He bought it new from a Buell dealer in 2002. Maybe the recalls have been done? As I said she bucked or flat spotted a little at around 3k. It's bone stock and plenty fast. I would like to know of mods that help reliability or dependability morso than speed.
I'm checking the vault but I would like specifics as to my year also.
Thanks in advance,
Dan
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Josh_
Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

2 words: Race ECM (plus the dealer will need to zero the TPS).

Call Buell CS with your VIN# to see what recalls have been done.

josh
99 S3T
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S320002
Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dan,
#1 Change the oil! Sounds like it sat for awhile and that may be the reason for the low oil level. Buells use a dry sump oil system and the oil may have bled into the crankcase. Don't over fill the oil or it will blow out somewhere!
#2 Check the primary chain tensioner (see the Knowledge Vault) if you have decent mechanical skills you can do the upgrade yourself and it will only cost about $30 including the new tensioner, primary gasket and primary lube. I would suggest Mobil 1 gear lube but that's up to you.
The only place I know to get service manuals is at a dealer unless someone here has some they will sell you. I would suggest you get both the service and parts manuals. Many parts people will give you a blank look when you ask for Buell parts. It also helps to know that Buell specific part numbers end with a Y. If they don't have a Y at the end they are also Harley parts. One thing you should be aware of is that some procedures in the service manual and some parts in the parts manual have been superseded. Many of those changes have been posted here in the Knowledge Vault.
#3 Review the service interval checks and make sure they are up to date.
This should give you a good start.
There are many knowledgeable people here who will gladly give you help on tech questions.
One more thing. Always warm up the engine before you whack the throttle wide open. It will save head gaskets and engine rebuilds.

Have fun!

Greg
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Dk1201
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 09:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks,
Sounds like A good place to start will be the dealer. I spoke to one today cause when riding she began to go powerless occasionally not cut out just less power and sometimes bucking. He thinks I might just need a remapping program since it's stock and might never have had one. (recall?)I'm from MA. but was at MAnchester HD
Nice guy, explained a lot.
This thing has got me frustrated cause I'm usally prety good at analizing mechanical problems in the old days I guess. DDFI?????
Dan
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Ray_maines
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've got an Owners Manual for a 2000 model year bike I could drop in the mail if your interested.
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Dk1201
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 06:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You'd do that?
Dam that would help with a lot of obvious questions I keep coming up with.
I'd appreciate it!
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Oz666
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You may also DL the service manual for the 96-97 S1 here Buell manual at UKBEG. Many of the procedures apply & its good to have a different view (pictures and diagrams) to look at. If you are reasonably handy and have a fair to good selection of quality tools, with the help of the service manual and the GREAT folks here you should be able to do most if not all of your own service and repair. (Thanks to everyone who have helped ME with my S3T ). You have a great bike, do all suggested above AND - BE SURE your drive belt is not too TIGHT!!! Tire pressure makes more difference than you would think. Have fun and be safe.
Oz
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Dk1201
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks again all I've one more question. I saw here a PDF of a service bulletin for the remapping of my year's ddfi to stop studdering and to check the manifolds for leaks. Today I called the dealer to run my vin # for recalls and he got back to me to tell me my studdering problem was probably due to a fuel filter recall missed not the remap that he never heard of.
Should I believe this to be possible? Does anyone know what the filter recall was for?
Dan
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Ray_maines
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 06:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

E-mail me with your name and address and I'll drop it in the mail.
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Gomo
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Best of luck with your "new" ride, I love my '99.
You've come to the right place for info. I do not post much, but do finds tons of info from other folks questions. I do have 1 thing to add, scan ebay under buell for items. There are a lot of good deals on there along with many items being new that are listed by dealers cleaning house. Just know your prices.
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Dk1201
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 06:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Never bought from e-bay but I will consider it now since this bike has kinda depleted my funds.
I shot my load on this one.
dk
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Mower_jockey
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 09:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

dk,
I too have a 99 S3, Josh is right, get the race ecm. The bike used to stumble (that is what I would call it) while just cruising at speed (30 to 70mph) it would go away at full throttle. The race ecm cured the problem, it was like a different bike. Enjoy
Matt
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Josh_
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

DK, look at the sticker that's on the ECM and report back the #. That sounds like what the original ECM did before the "G" update. Note that only Buell Factory (Hi Randell!) guys have the ability to remap an ECM (orig or Race).

Then get the Race ECM ;)
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Dk1201
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 06:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ok , time to show my stuff!
WHERE IS the ECM ??? I looked, honestly.
dk
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Darthane
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 08:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tucked up underneath the tail section on an S3, I believe. You might have to remove the seat and plastic to get at it.

'course, I have a P3 and XB9R, so I could just be talking out of my ass, as usual, but the M2 ignition module is there and they share frames with the S3.

Bryan
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Davefl
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 08:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Ecm on the S3 is on the right side under the
tail section plastic.

David Ingle
99 S3T
99 M2
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Dk1201
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Found it,
2 stickers. ( n0306 k 99054 ) & 2nd sticker
( uso6gcobo ).
does either of these make sense?
Dan
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Josh_
Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 05:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

1st set should be part#, second should be firmware version. Looks like you have "G" which I think was the last version (the ECM was changed for 2000+). "G" fixed the driveability you are reporting on most machines so if you're still having issues I'd check the basics (plugs, wires, intake leaks, injectors fouled etc).

...but I still recommend a race ECM.

There is the rare possibility that you have a "G" sticker but a prior-to-"G" firmware version. Ya know I think Buell send dealerships an upgrade kit (for the scanalizer) to flash the ECM to "G" along with a pack of "G" stickers. At least one person reported getting a sticker w/o getting an upgrade. Lord knows if any Buell Techs now remember that summer-of-99-only procedure.
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