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Spiderman
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

OK guys and ladies,
I have my cases split and parts on the way. Here is what I am doin so far.
All new bearings an bushings,
X1 cams,
Cut down cam cover,
Polishing the primary chain, (so it doesn't wear down the shoe as much)
Polishing both cam and primary covers,
Getting both cylinders in black,
Any suggestions from anyone as what to besides I have listed? I have a few days before the pars are in.
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Peter
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 02:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Get a template for a Baker 6 speed, and do the case clearancing while it's apart.
Give the cases some extra clearance for bigger cams.
Fit an oil scraper/windage plate.
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Philip
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 03:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

if you are buying new cams step up to the se 536 set or if you plan to do headwork go all the way to 585's. also, have the crank balanced. just my opinion.
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Road_thing
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 06:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Polishing the primary chain

That's a new one on me--how do you polish a chain??

r-t
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Kevyn
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 08:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Better check in with Nallin/Wilson speed things. No question, withoutadoubtpositively you will get the best information available on how to proceed.
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Mikej
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 08:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Balance and blueprint everything to tight spec.
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Spiderman
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

RT,
You polish the bottom of the chain, not a high gloss but a decent shine. It gets rid of all the burrs and ruff edges so it rides along the shoe smoother.
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Mikej
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I now have this image of a shoe shine rag glued to the tensioner pad on Spidey's bike. ;)
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Spiderman
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LOL No I have a polishing attachment for my drill and my buddy Rage has a stand at his house. NO half assing on this project. ;)
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Bluzm2
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Spidy,
Are you sure about the polishing deal?
Any type of polishing requires an abrasive compound of some sort.
I always thought abrasives and any type of chain didn't play well together.
How do you insure that all of the polishing counpound is cleaned from the pins rollers and side plates when you are done?

Not throwing bricks here just curious.
The chain tensioners and a new gasket are so cheap is it worth the hassle?

I put about 8K on my new style tensioner and checked it when I had the primary open for other reasons.
It had worn down to the point where the rollers were just starting to touch the slide, just the plates had cut in.

Any other opinions?

Brad
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Jim_witt
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Some Bonneville folks micropolish the chain and other goodies too.

-JW:>;)
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Spiderman
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah what Jim said ;)
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Polishing your chain"... Oh, you're being literally serious. LOL!! I was thinking that was a euphimism for something else. LOL
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Jim_witt
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Polishing your chain

-JW
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Spiderman
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I figured Blake would have something more insiteful to add to this thread.
Are you gonna break out some math on how I should or shouldn't polish my chain ;)
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Phillyblast
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Spidey, find a hobby fer chissakes!! If you go blind from all that chain polishing you won't be able to ride
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Sarodude
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Will polishing the chain stretch it or deform it in any way? How about surface abrasions?

I've only heard of one guy going blind after polishing his chain. Something was shot into his eye. Probably would've been fine if he'd worn eye protection.

Although I personally have no experience polishing chains, I would suggest a light touch and plenty of lubrication or polishing compound. Start off slow. You can always speed things up gradually as you go along.

As with anything, clean things up properly after you're done. If not, you may experience all sorts of anomalies like sticking chains. Besides, sometimes the chain smells a bit and that's no fun, either.

One more thing... Make sure you don't polish the chain for too long at a sitting. You'd be surprised how much it can wear on your hands and joints - though it does build some peculiar musculature.

Do us all a favor and post some pics before, during, and after.

-Saro

edited by sarodude on June 12, 2003
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Spiderman
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't worry it is only gonna be a light polish nothing too shiny.
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Joplin
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 06:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Saro,,,lolol,,,kinda like someone "jerking your chain",,,I think,,and does that polishing cause you to grow wire bristles on your palm? hmmm,,,,jm
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Road_thing
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So, seriously, how long does it take to polish a chain? I think new tensioners cost, like, fifteen bucks or so. I'm not willing to stand in front of a grinder for more than about ten minutes for that kind of money!

On the other hand, if you've got nothing better to do with your time, why not?

r-t
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Spiderman
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It will only take a few min. You are put in on the same kinda polisher that you would polish your swing arm with. Use a ruff or emry compound and just smooth it out. Like I said nothing super high gloss shiny.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 09:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Spidy,
I agree with Kevyn. If you want a performance package that works optimally as a system, check the dyno chart pages and choose the torque curve you like the best. I'm really impressed with the performance of the SE436 cams that Aaron is getting. I like the lower lift and stock base circle part for longevity/durability.
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Edmanning
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

just out of curiousity wont the tensioner polish the down side of the chain, considering their not being replaced.
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M2me
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Spidey,

Are you serious about this primary chain polishing business or are you just yanking our chains? I agree with Brad. It might end up doing more harm than good. You might end up getting a little more life out of the tensioner but less out of the chain. Doesn't make sense to me.
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Jim_witt
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 10:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ask Pammy about micropolishing.

-JW:>;)
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Dynarider
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Since you are doing the chain polish, how about also using slick 50, a turbolator, Nology wires, a fitch fuel catalyst, & oh yea one of thos electric turbo thingys Blake loves so well.:D
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Spiderman
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey it is a little trick I learned.
Listen to Jim ;)
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