| Author | Message | ||
     Percyco |
This photo was on the website for Gettysburg bikeweek 2007. Anyone here ?  (Message edited by percyco on August 02, 2007) | ||
| Glitch |
I can't see, I've gone blind! | ||
| Ted |
why isnt he wearing his safety hat ? | ||
| Chasespeed |
for the same reason he is wearing shorts, sneakers, and a t-shirt... trying to fit in with the rest of the Harley crowd... Chase | ||
| Wile_ecoyote |
Dont think I would fess up if it were me! | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
Isn't that Court? | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
His bagger fell off the trailer & that was the only bike the local dealer had to rent? | ||
| U4euh |
Where can I get the levers and pegs colored blue like that? | ||
| 98s1lightning |
He stole the levers and pegs from the bus right next to him. As for the riding gear, I ride in that same set up around town all the time, who does'nt? | ||
| Nitsebes |
Just so you know, 98s1lightning your personal quote; {let the ass whiping begin!}  | ||
| Diablobrian |
I don't ride in that kind of gear....ever. If you see me wearing only jeans, jacket, gloves and full face you'll know that I am in "casual" mode. Other than that it is 2 piece textile/mesh, or 2 piece leathers for every ride. And I always wear my Sidi vertigo boots when I ride. Local short rides are where you are most vulnerable/comfortable and most likely to be in a multi-vehicle accident. Because you are comfortable and your guard is down and the car drivers are also close to home...you do the math. I was hit by a car <3 miles from home and my gear and soft tissue were all that held me together. ATGATT is the ONLY reason I'm alive today. So yeah, I'm serious about wearing my gear for every ride and I encourage others to do the same. The gear only feels hot when you're sitting still. Especially with mesh with and evaporative vest under it. That combo can give you the chills on a hot day (if the humidity isn't sky high keeping the water from doing it's thing) You choose not to wear gear, I understand that on certain levels. It makes my stomach churn to see what some people consider appropriate riding attire because I am very aware of the consequences and vulnerability that we as riders live with. Remember the old phrase "familiarity breeds contempt?" it is very easy to get too familiar with your bike, your neighborhood, and your local roads. When that happens intense pain is not far away. Trust me you don't want to be taking methadone daily just to be able to function on a semi-normal level because of nerve damage. OK, I'll get off my soap box before I ramble any further. | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
No grief from me on that score, I was less than than 3 miles from home when I totalled the M2 but mr Shoei & the cows enabled me to hobble away; I can't say I believe in any particular god (except maybe Virgil Exner) but "In ATGATT I trust" | ||
| Budc |
Hey, I thought it was the bikes that were supposed to be naked!!! LOL I have ridden my XB12S just once without a helmet and it just didn't feel right. I'm even riding my Road King with a helmet now-something I have not done much of over the last few years. It's not about the "Right to Decide" its about deciding what's right to do! BudC | ||
| 98s1lightning |
Well I believe that we should let the rider decide. Its very oblivious That the guy in ? is just on a short cruising strip @ a bike week/day/night so a crash would be un-likley. And for the record, I have had MANY crashes both my fault and not and yet to this day has the gear or lack of made much of a difference. Please keep the soap box under the sink, those are MY experiences and thats it. | ||
| 98s1lightning |
Besides, pain is just fear leaving the body and if your bleeding then you have too thin of a skin. | ||
| Bueaddicted |
Pardon the question, but what's "ATGATT"? Second, I always wear gear, but I do acknowledge that it feels great in the summer to ride in shorts and t-shirt. When I was a "squid", many moons ago, I had my share of accidents, and I always walked away from them. What saved me was I always had a full-face helmet, but my skin never fared too well. It always bled like an old-tea bag! I have been thinking of buying proper boots, but I can't stand all the logos on the racing boots, and secondly they do look funny when you walk around. Any ideas of safe boots, like the "Vertigos", but without all the logos? Thanks, Paul | ||
| Glitch |
Pardon the question, but what's "ATGATT"? All The Gear All The Time | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
All The Gear All The Time s'an acronym. geddit? | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
Well I believe that we should let the rider decide. I totally agree with you, but it doesn't make such behaviour any less stupid does it? He slips & falls over on the right side those headers will fry his leg to the bone before he can get the get the bike off, sorry I think it's just dumb. | ||
| Diablobrian |
As much as it may surprise people I am very anti-helmet law. I do not believe that common sense should have to be legislated to us. That doesn't change the fact that I still won't ride my bike anywhere without my helmet...and gear. I understand that your experiences are different than mine. Anecdotal evidence is a waste of time. Take a look at the stats for motorcycles versus cars. IIRC 5x more likely to be in an accident, and 3x more likely to be the victim in a multi-vehicle accident. That may not be precise, but it is fairly close. If you trust your local ambulance/fire department's response times and your local hospitals enough to make your health and well being solely their responsibility it's a choice, but I don't think that there are many places where I'd like to take that gamble. on edit: added the word solely in the above paragraph. As far as it being less likely to be in an accident at an event like that...In large groups guys are far more likely to show off and do something foolish than when out riding by themselves. We can't help it. When alcohol is added to the mix it gets worse. You should check into emergency room stats during one of the H-D chrome 'fests. It isn't pretty with new records for motorcycle related injuries being set nearly annually. I know motorcycling is dangerous. I just don't think that justifies completely divesting myself of responsibility for my own safety when there are things I can do to mitigate the danger. My friends in San Diego laid the label "Gear Nazi" on me a couple of years before my big accident because I was always after them to wear their gear. Funny thing though, I no longer have to get after them and they are all ATGATT riders now. I wonder why? A brush with mortality can do a lot to change your perspective, even if it's not your own. I hope that you guys that don't or won't wear your gear never have the chance to get that close. I'm trying to share my experience to save you the pain I will live with every day for the rest of my life (unless stem cell research comes through with some nerve regeneration magic). Of course if you are content with the "that kind of thing only happens to other people" attitude, then I can't help you. I would not want to force you to wear gear any more than I believe in mandatory helmet laws. I do however want to encourage people to learn from my experiences and save themselves decades of pain...or you can hope that it never happens to you. After all, I'm sure that the drivers in your neighborhood are always 100% aware of motorcycles on the road, you've never had a close call, and you've got skills Rossi only dreams of. Right? (Message edited by diablobrian on August 04, 2007) | ||
| M2statz |
On a recent Saturday morning (0400) a 20 yr old male with a 18 yr old passenger on a rice grinder and BAC of .2 and .18 respectively wearing shorts, tee-shirts and flip-flops hit a gaurd rail in town at 85mph. The 20 yr old driver lost his arm, some grey matter and his life, the passenger will not walk again let alone feed himself. It is the first time in my healthcare career that I had a hard time removing situations like this from my every day life but what a tragic waste of young lives. I usually ride in helmet textile jacket gloves jeans and steel tip leather boots. I just ordered some Joe Rocket Alter Ego pants. Happy Buelling! Michael | ||
| 98s1lightning |
Well you just cant fix STUPID. | ||
| Prof_stack |
"Let the rider decide." Yeah, but if too many riders decide to be stupid, what does that do to the insurance premiums for other Buellers in that company or state? Speaking of insurance, Geico just sent me the bill for the next 12 months of coverage. Despite my accident 5 weeks ago (other driver's fault) the premium went down $8. Nice. Do they discount for the XB being in the shop for 2 months before it gets fixed?  | ||
| Jackbequick |
Grumpy, "..(except maybe Virgil Exner)..." Is that Senior? Or Junior? I like Senior, I have a place in my heart for someone that played a part in the design of the Studebaker Champion and the first generation Chrylser 300C. Jack | ||
| Iamike |
Brian- I agree wholeheartedly. On the Friday before I left on my 2-week trip coming home from work I was riding down a seldom used street 1 mi. from home. There were 3-4 cars lined up parked on my side. Just as I got to the last one she pulled a U-turn right into me. I never saw any indication that anyone was in the car. All I saw was a fender coming right at me and in my mirror I figured I would be in the air any moment. She must have seen me at the last moment because she didn't hit me but it had to have been real close. I stopped to chew her out but she was already freaking out that she did that. 1mi. from home, on the way home from work, looking forward to big trip. Maybe I should have been more focused? | ||
| Prof_stack |
Iamike: check out http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/BBS/viewtopic.php?t =24144&highlight=hurt+report Most accidents seem to occur close to home. | ||
| Prof_stack |
This photo was on the website for Gettysburg bikeweek 2007. Anyone here? When I see that guy next to the bus it reminds me of a bratwurst ready to go on the grill.  | ||
| 04buell |
Right after I got my 12SS I did a stoppie but forgot to stop. If I had not had on a full faced helmet and leathers, I would have been badly injured, but thanks to the protection, I suffered only a separated shoulder. I had a Harley before and rarely wore protection but Mr. 04Buell insisted I do so after I got the Buell. Boy am I glad I listened to him then and I never ride without it now! I COULD have learned the hard way.....I am glad I did not have to! Mrs. 04buell!!! | ||
| Asym50 |
I know motorcycling is dangerous. I just don't think that justifies completely divesting myself of responsibility for my own safety when there are things I can do to mitigate the danger. Not to mention the uninsured, unequipped rider who ends up in the ER just keeps burdening the limited resources of the health care system. Texas has a clause for motorcyclists that choose not to wear a helmet; I think an additional 10k insurance coverage. Hah, that 10k will be gone by the time you hit the ER doors and the general population bears the burden of "personal choice" | ||
| Buellshyter |
Blaming this behavior or that behavior for rising health costs is a slippery slope. I'm sure we could find plenty of people out there who would suggest we all pay more for registration or healthcare insurance because we ride a motorcycle. In fact, I bet in some places and circumstances it is already occurring. I heard the other day on the radio employers in a mid-western state are going to charge any employee a weekly fee for being overweight. If we travel down this road where does it end? People living longer means they are going to burden the system at some point. I say, let nature take it's course and weed some people out early-on. |
