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Oldog
Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2007 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=553_1182601126&p=1

you will want to watch it all.

Thanks to our young men and women in harms way

(Message edited by oldog on July 01, 2007)
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Wile_ecoyote
Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2007 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Olddog. Yes, remember all our brothers and sisters on the Fourth.
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Icon12r
Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2007 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For you my brothers! Thank you!
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Cixyx_pilot
Posted on Monday, July 02, 2007 - 06:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Aeholton
Posted on Monday, July 02, 2007 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

God bless them!
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Jerseyguy
Posted on Monday, July 02, 2007 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We salute you!



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Ryker77
Posted on Monday, July 02, 2007 - 09:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Independance day is the USA telling the occupying nation to get lost. So Iraq has little to nothing to do with this day. Remember those who fought for and died to create the United State of America on this day.

If you'll want to thank a troop. Become a true patriot of America. Read some articles from the founding fathers. And most important VOTE.

Semper FI
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Eboos
Posted on Tuesday, July 03, 2007 - 12:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

From the halls of Montezuma
To the shores of Tripoli,
We fight our country's battles
In the air, on land, and sea.
First to fight for right and freedom,
And to keep our honor clean...

Well, you should know the rest.
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Ryker77
Posted on Tuesday, July 03, 2007 - 09:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As an American I value the Constitution and Declaration of Independence over a song. Though it is the best sounding song ever. But I am biased.

As the enlisted Oath says to support and defend the Constitution....
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, July 03, 2007 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Independance day is the USA telling the occupying nation to get lost."
I'd state it a bit differently. I'd say that American Independence Day is in celebration of the day we decided to throw off the chains of tyranny and oppression and fight for our liberty.

"So Iraq has little to nothing to do with this day."
If America is noble, and if in Iraq we acted even in part to fight on behalf of freedom for the opressed people of Iraq, I believe that it does.

"Remember those who fought for and died to create the United State of America on this day."
While always a noble endeavor that I most strongly support, that is the intent of Memorial Day. On Independence day, let's also be sure to reflect upon and honor why our bravest and most honorable fought and sacrificed on behalf of this wonderful nation of ours. Let's take the time to read...

The Declaration of Independence of the United States of America.

"If you'll want to thank a troop. Become a true patriot of America. Read some articles from the founding fathers. And most important VOTE.

Semper FI"


A'men to that Marine! : )

constitution: The system of fundamental laws and principles that prescribes the nature, functions, and limits of a government or another institution.

Excerpted from The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language






We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.


Have a happy Independence Day all!
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Ryker77
Posted on Tuesday, July 03, 2007 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This week Americans will gather around the grill, attend parades and watch fireworks displays, all in the celebration of the signing of our Declaration of Independence. At the same time, we will have thousands of bureaucrats, troops and agents stationed in countries across the globe being paid by American tax dollars.

On the anniversary of our declaring our own independence from the British, it is certainly appropriate that we reflect on the nature and spirit of independent nationhood. While our founding fathers were individual men in a historically unique situation, they posited that the principles upon which they rested our national independence were timeless.

If we truly honor the men who brought about Independence Day, we would do well to spend at least as much time reflecting on the Declaration of Independence, and the principles upon which it is based, as we spend time at the cookouts, parades, and fireworks displays. With the trend toward globalism that has been with us for the past century, we should be specifically thoughtful about how our celebration of independence can be made consistent with the policies that have been advocated by the American government – as well as many of the nation's elite – or what we used to call the Eastern Establishment.

I believe there is no way to square our nation's traditions and reverence for independence with the globalist policies these elites are currently pursuing. The American concept of independent nationhood inscribed in our Declaration cannot be maintained if we are going to pursue a policy that undermines the independence of other nations. National independence is an idea, and the erosion of the independence of other nations only serves to erode that idea.

At the same time, if we allow the erosion of that idea, by ignoring it in certain instances, we will be contributing to its erosion in all times and nations, even our own. In this way our nation's independence is linked with the independence of all nations. The sooner we realize this truth, and enact a foreign policy that is consistent with it, the sooner we will be able to recapture the spirit of independence.

In addition, as our founding fathers understood, the idea of national independence is inseparable from that of constitutional republicanism. Only the safeguards and limitations that are enshrined in a constitutionally-limited republic can prohibit a nation from lurching toward empire. Recognizing these same protections is also the very best way to eliminate the need for civil wars and the violence of civil strife.

Moreover, this constitutional republicanism is essential to protecting the individual rights and self-determination that is at the heart of our Declaration. As we celebrate the 231ist anniversary of our nation's birth, I hope every person who reads or hears this will take the time to go back and read the Declaration of Independence. Only by recapturing the spirit of independence can we ensure our government never resembles the one from which the American States declared their separation.



Guess what republican presidental hopefull that was written by? He is getting my vote. Though most sheepish voters will choose an actor or on the other side the cronie with alot of money.
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Ryker77
Posted on Tuesday, July 03, 2007 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity}, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2007 - 01:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Domestic tranquility? You mean we should be proactive in trying to prevent another attack like that of 9/11? :/

"Posterity". It has important relevance too.
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2007 - 01:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake,

Thanks for the link, I know I should have read that several times in school but don't recall having done so.

Ryker, your view is interesting but I don't see how it pertains. Probably you and I have fundamentally different perspectives. I think fighting for the rights of others is appropriate, and always will be. I know there are many who question the reason for the troops being where they are, perhaps you are one of those. I'll be happy to accept it at face value and prefer war to be fought on other nations' soil.

Thanks to those who made the way for us, thanks to those fighting for others.

It's also interesting to note how thoroughly focused on God the writers of the Declaration were. It seems almost to be a prayer at times. The government should not dictate religion - but we will always have to report to our Creator.

-Mike
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Ryker77
Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2007 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think fighting for the rights of others is appropriate, and always will be. I know there are many who question the reason for the troops being where they are, perhaps you are one of those.

I am more in line with what the Founding Fathers thought a soverign nation should be. The "rights" of others is a question of who is "right".
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