| Author | Message | ||
     Bads1 |
This is one huge Wild Boar. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,275524,00.html | ||
| Damnut |
read the negative comments............ very funny, almost all of the posts call the kid a fat ass.  | ||
| Bads1 |
Whats so funny about that. I see no humor in heavy or large people. Damnut are you one of those people ?? I'd have to be damn proud of my son at 11 years of age to shoot an animal with a 50 cal. handgun then get a world record to boot. Hell the kid tracked for 3 hours. To bad people like you find humor in the wrong things. (Message edited by bads1 on May 27, 2007) | ||
| Damnut |
OK there Rev Bads1. Please do us all a favor and stop jumping to conclusions. you have no clue.  What I thought was funny was all of these folks posting very hateful things to this 11 year old kid and the one thing in common is they call the kid a fat ass. I am laughing at how close-minded some people are. I see humor in that, not that the kid is fat. Hell I didn't even notice if he was fat, was he? So please don't judge me, not that I really care what you think of me.  I see know humor in heavy or large people. Now this sentence is......... this is funny. I see know humor...... LOL. I guess Hooked on Phonics didn't work for you. | ||
| Spank |
The kid must have been playing the "how many times can I shoot a pig before it dies" game | ||
| Bads1 |
There ya go Jimmy Jim Bob.... I fixed the one wrong word in my post. Next time you might want to be more clear on what you think is funny. In a manner you were laughing with them. Damnut I didn't judge you....not yet gotta pretty good idea though. You can rip on me for a word used wrong in a sentence but you must no read so good.lol I asked in exact words "are you one of those people"??You found humor in others comments of it so what did you think I could think?? Its ok the post wan't intended for you anyways. The kid did good and I like to see that a kid his age is enjoying hunting. (Message edited by bads1 on May 27, 2007) (Message edited by bads1 on May 27, 2007) | ||
| Luvthemtorts |
In one story I read the pig was shot on a hunting preserve. Now don't get me wrong I do love me some huntin' but is it really that impressive if it did come off a fenced in preserve where electronic feeders and supplements are used quite often. | ||
| Bads1 |
I understand where your coming from Luvthemtorts but if it was all that easy someone would of shot it years ago. Its a world record. It's a dream for many Pro hunters and every day hunters alike. Just think a 1000 plus pounds.... big as a horse for crying out loud. Its not like they were hunting 50 acres,were talk'n probably thousands possibly. | ||
| Luvthemtorts |
I think the article said 2500 acres. I ain't trying to belittle the young lad but I have been to a hunting preserve when I was younger and there isn't too much sport involved. The animals were raised domestically and then let loose when the hunters arrived in camp. One area was for trophy boar and the other area was for Gold Medal record book boars. The size of the animal shot depended on how much money one had to spend. Dogs or "guides" would drive the animals and since the area is fenced eventually they would come past you. If preserve hunting is someones choice I ain't gonna argue with it since I am sure they don't agree with everything I do but I think the story was a bit sensationalized by the media (which is normally the case  ). | ||
| Bads1 |
So you are saying they let a 1060 pound boar out for release to be hunted?? That thing is a freak of nature. I agree with some you are saying but this is something just not seen or heard of. | ||
| Luvthemtorts |
Here is a link to the prserve where it was shot. http://www.lostcreekplantation.com/ Notice in the picture it doesn't look quite so big. Also notice they charge by the pound. Unfortunately I guess money can by happiness and fame . | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
I am not against hunting. I asked this question in another forum and have not received an answer yet. I just want to know where the fine line between hunting and torture begins? | ||
| Nevrenuf |
christ, the pig was running away. most wild pigs out in the everglades are gonna run toward you. they ain't afraid of nothing. | ||
| Cochise |
I am not against hunting. I asked this question in another forum and have not received an answer yet. I just want to know where the fine line between hunting and torture begins? I'd have to say the line would be Bear/Rabbit Traps, I say just kill the sumBees while they're running. | ||
| Daves |
I'm not a fan of high fenced hunting. I hunt free ranging/100% wild animals. I also think that either the young man should have practiced his marksmanship more. Or waited for a better shot. It is the hunters duty to make clean kills. This sounds like it was far from it. | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
Daves, you expressed my point better than I could. | ||
| Bads1 |
Dave I agree totally but 50 cal. handgun and a 11 years old??? That's saying something. I shot my first deer at 12 with a Marlin lever action 30/30. This kid bagged his first at 5 years of age. All points I can see are valid but it still falls down to a 11 year old bagging a freak of nature 1150 pound Boar at the age of 11 with a hand gun. Did the Boar run away??? I guess it did but that doesn't mean it could of turned on him later. | ||
| Daves |
yes, it is saying that his Dad has enough money to "buy" the kid a big pig. Now, I would feel different if they had "hunted" this, as you put it, freak of nature, in the wild. To do it on a "canned" hunt just isn't the same in my eyes. Everyone is free to disagree with me. | ||
| Bads1 |
Dave but does a boar get that big?? I didn't think they could or did. So if it was bought why did this kid get a chance for the record why not someone else. I'm with you I like shooting wild birds not pen raised. But 1000 plus pound wild boar?? I don't get it. There talking some frigg'n movie called Hogzilla for petes sake. | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
Nothing exceeds like excess. I thought that was the "American Way"  | ||
| Luvthemtorts |
Bads, If you do some checking you will see that the largest pig recorded actually weighed well over 2000 pounds. Granted it was a domestic pig but from the size and picture of the animal the kid shot I would say it has at least some domestic blood in it. That thing is almost certainly not a "pure" European boar. Once again when the media gets involved things get spun in a way to make them seem sensational. | ||
| Bads1 |
Yeah I know Domestic's get or can get that bike but a wild pig....Wow,thats alot of BLT's. | ||
| Luvthemtorts |
Thats just it. If it came from a preserve it wasn't truly wild. While in holding the animals are fed enormous quantities of food and then once released there are feeders to keep the animals extremely well fed. As I said before I have been on a preserve hunt 16 years ago when I was just beginning to hunt. I somehow thought it would be just like hunting wild animals only on land that was fenced to keep poachers out. I found out I was wrong within the first 10 minutes of daylight. I was sitting there and all of a sudden I hear a motor start whizzing. The sound was coming from a electronic feeder I had not noticed in the dim light of the early morning. Within 5 minutes I had a group of hogs as well as several Fallow deer within 75 yards of my "stand". After seeing that I chose not to shoot. While waiting all morning for the guides to come pick me back up I kept hearing feeders go off quickly followed by gunshots each time. Once the guides picked me and the other hunters up they asked why I had not shot. When I told them I didn't feel it was particularly sporting they got aggravated but decided to let me try it in an area with no feeders. They drive me to another fenced area and put me in a stand to wait for my prey so I was feeling better about the whole thing. About 45 minutes later a lone pig came by but I once again decided not to shoot because it did not have the tusks I was looking for in my "trophy". As the animal walked away 4 of the guides jumped out of the woodwork and asked why I had not shot since they had chased the pig directly to me! When I told them it wasn't what I was looking for they became furious and told me that they had put that pig in the area just for me and I was obligated to shoot it or pay anyway! After they calmed down I was told I could hunt a special area that held two hogs that would easily place within the top 5 of the record book and had the tusks I was looking for however the price would be $1500.00 more than what I had planned on paying for the trip. I graciously decided to decline but in the end bowed under the pressure of my cabin mates and the following morning killed a small Mouflon sheep. To this day I am not proud of the fact that I did it and in fact never displayed the mount. I shared this story with you to hopefully give you and others a better understanding of the workings of at least one preserve. It is money driven and a bigger animal means more money in the owners pocket. | ||
| Court |
I love hunting. Took the classes, bought the shot gun, love to chase those Pheasant and Quail. Hell, I'm from Kansas . . arugably the world capital of Pheasant. I've never understood the "hunting" where you go to a big penned in preserve, they release something, you shoot it and call it "sport". Perhaps it's just me. But then again . . . I enjoy the walk and the lunchtime competative target shooting and bluerock more than the hunting. I ruined a perfectly good hunting trip once when I killed a Pheasant. I found the story interesting . . but totally missed the "sport" and "hunting" part. | ||
| Tx05xb12s |
I agree about hunting resorts. During the summer of my freshman year of college I worked on one and know the drill. For instance, when we had a group coming in for pheasant, we would take our domesticated birds out of the pens and bring them to the hunting area, spin them in a windmill motion while holding them by the legs for about 30 seconds, and then tuck them into a bush with their head under a wing. Later the guide would bring the "hunters" along and "flush" the birds from the predesignated bushes so these guys could blast away when they wobbled out of the bushes and tried to fly. I found this practice most unsportsmanlike. Needless to say, I quit after the 2nd week. I miss my days of real pheasant hunting in the vacant winter cornfields of the high plains. A bunch of guys would get together, 1/2 each at opposite ends of a tract of land and walk toward one another to flush the WILD roosters. We only peppered our buddies at the other end every once in a while. LOL! #7 shot doesn't hurt that bad from a distance. | ||
| Rainman |
I'm not much for hunting. Tried it once, on my own property, and got shot at. Either the deer were tipped to my being armed and decided on a pre-emptive strike or someone was trespassing. I like to shoot, though, especially at cans full of cheap beer. Call me Beer Hunter. | ||
| Djkaplan |
"Call me Beer Hunter." I'm drinking a beer right now and some of it went into my nose when I read this. | ||
| Bads1 |
Well Dave does this count?? I have a fenced in yard and I went hunting today in my back yard. I shot a chipmunk with my 3 foot blowgun using a inch stinger dart. I tracked it for an hour or so and found it under my deck. When I got close it snarled at me and I took one last shot to put this record 1 pound munk down. I called FOX but no interest in the story. Maybe one of the magazines hey?? Oh well its off to the taxidermist for a great mount on a log. Maybe a movie is in the making.....munkzilla. I really do have a blowgun for pesky munks though.lol | ||
| Djkaplan |
"christ, the pig was running away. most wild pigs out in the everglades are gonna run toward you. they ain't afraid of nothing." There is a huge difference between a feral pig and a wild boar. Most boars will run before they fight, but they will fight like a mofo when cornered or wounded. I especially like the way real sporting hunters bag wild boar in the Okeefenokee in South Georgia and Florida. They chase them with dogs and physically wrassle them into submission with their bare hands - no guns, no knives. Then they pen it up and purge it (feed it grain for a week before slaughter) or let it go. I would have never believed it, but I read a Sports Illustrated article about it and saw it profiled on the Outdoor Life network. The kid should try that with his dad some day. Feral pigs in Georgia are considered 'varmints' and are hunted year round. In mid-Georgia, pig hunting is important because a full grown pig will flip a car or truck over if it gets hit at speed. | ||
| Daves |
 You should have taped the hunt! I'll bet the "munks" can get out of the fence, right? |
