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Oldog
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Maybe I should just ask Court. Help me Mr. Wizard! (flashbacks from the Rocky and Bullwinkle show)



}However... maybe a simple silly statement but... anyone who rides is a rider

I'm slow but it makes sense to me..

I will say this that when I went to Daytona
this year I was asked will you be "trailering?" My responce was "err no its bike week", ( I had considered it )
For the folks going to winter events from the north it makes good sense! for me it was a blamy 39 degrees when I departed, so the sled it was and I was glad of it.

Would it be fair to say that a rider is one who rides for the joy of riding, be it seeing new stuff, exploring off the beaten path, the escape from the every day, the sense of adventure?, the peace of not having to answer the phone or worry with _____?? for others perhaps the (sp) cameradery?


What ever the poser/rub deal is.
Those folks either become riders or provide the market with great used motorcycles, my 0.02$

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Jb2
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oldog, you are a rider! : )
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Spiderman
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When I grow up I wanna be like Ferris.
Even though he isn't grown up either, sooooo...

uhhhh

mmmmmm

Aw crap, back to the drawing board : (

I'm gonna be a PUB forever!

I believe once you start
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 02:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Would it be fair to say that a rider is one who rides for the joy of riding, be it seeing new stuff, exploring off the beaten path, the escape from the every day, the sense of adventure?, the peace of not having to answer the phone or worry with _____?? for others perhaps the (sp) cameradery?

Oldog, one wonders if what might appear to be a RUB thru the jaded eyes of a cynical "real" biker might actually meet all the parameters you list, even tho they're riding a $20K Harley and wearing a full complement of expensive Bar and Shield apparel.

is it not possible that a "RUB" or a "poser" is enjoying their motorcycle as much as the rest of us, just enjoying in a different manner?

and if that IS possible, are they not also a "rider"?

this isn't directed at you, rather at anyone who applies THEIR standards upon others as to what constitutes "real."

for anyone here, myself included, who uses THEIR riding experience as the threshold into exaltedness, there are a million riders out there who might look at your/my accomplishments on two wheels and rightly snicker like there's no tomorrow.

my point, and it's an admittedly tiny one, is that riders come in all shapes, sizes and displacements. some ride quietly, some ride loud, some ride shyly, some ride proud, some ride 1400 miles a year, and some ride 140,000 miles a year.

they are ALL riders, yes?

the next time you (the general you) see someone on a $20K Harley all decked out in Milwaukee's finest fashionwear and you start to judge their their level of "bikerness" on what you THINK you see, maybe instead appreciate the fact they're on a motorcycle at all.

we're all riders, it's all good.

FB
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Daves
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I hate picnics
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Jb2
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the next time you (the general you) see someone on a $20K Harley all decked out in Milwaukee's finest fashionwear and you start to judge their their level of "bikerness" on what you THINK you see...

One thing's for sure; owning a Harley today doesn't set you a part from anyone else, it puts you in the mainstream. Part of my personal attraction to motorcycles is the loner/rebel aspect and owning something that isn't common. Be it a small part of my motorcycle affliction it's still important and prolly the biggest reason I won't own another modern Harley. I have to agree with those who are fast on the draw here that it's easy to judge these instant bikers. Especially when I know what 100,000 mile leather looks like. I couldn't agree more that they enable those of us who do ride a lot more accessibility to parts and service but that doesn't mean I have to like them or their attitudes. Just because they ride doesn't make them righteous. Some people don't belong on a bike but are prolly less dangerous weaving home from the bar on a bike instead of in a car. I suppose if I wanted to be like everyone else I'd own a Harley.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

One thing's for sure; owning a Harley today doesn't set you a part from anyone else

One of the many reasons I traded my Roadthing for a Uly.... Plus the rear Cylinder was burning oil like Iraqi soldiers leaving Kuwait.
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Rainman
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 03:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Guy I know spent 18,000 on a softail custom and another 2,000 on the proper leather gear (chaps? what, you're not going to fall on your butt so you don't need leather? Only high-heeled women named Dominique should be wearing chaps)and rode 500 miles before selling the bike.

I'm sure that anyone who met him during his 500-mile foray into motorcycling would have considered him less than righteous. He's a good SUV driver, however.
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

One thing's for sure; owning a Harley today doesn't set you a part from anyone else, it puts you in the mainstream. Part of my personal attraction to motorcycles is the loner/rebel aspect and owning something that isn't common. Be it a small part of my motorcycle affliction it's still important and prolly the biggest reason I won't own another modern Harley. I have to agree with those who are fast on the draw here that it's easy to judge these instant bikers. Especially when I know what 100,000 mile leather looks like. I couldn't agree more that they enable those of us who do ride a lot more accessibility to parts and service but that doesn't mean I have to like them or their attitudes. Just because they ride doesn't make them righteous.

well, i guess i've been told.

you're certainly free not to like "them" or "their" attitudes, and it would appear that you've got a lot of company.

(btw, i'm still curious who "they" are. i've really got to get a rule book or something...)

i submit that "that" attitude you refer to knows no brand preference.

take a moment if you will to re-read my posts on this thread, and see if you can find where i said a Harley rider is better than you or anyone else.

if anything, i've asked you, and others on this thread who are quick to judge on what you THINK you see, to consider us an equal.

ride on, Righteous Rider. : )

Wolf, back to you.

FB
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Diablobrian
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A lot of people spend a lot of money to find out they are more in love with the
idea of riding, but don't really enjoy getting out on a bike.

It is a product of H-D's very powerful marketing juggernaut, as well as peer
pressure from the country club set to the trailer park crowd to own a "hawg".
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Jb2
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ferris, you're digging too deep and reading too much between the lines. You are correct the attitudes know no one certain brand but the people who we are referring to are, for the most part, riding Harleys. It's a fact plain and simple. No one ever said you made such a statement. I certainly didn't. Re-read my posts. There is no rule book and there is no perfect profile but they(RUBs and posers) are thick around here. Like flies on shit and they all ride Harleys. I can't change that nor would I throw you into that group. You are the kind of rider I admire and like to ride with. I still love ya no matter what you throw a leg over. ;)
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't care what you ride, If you like it then more power to ya.

The cool thing is I have been told I am having a mid life crisis from some of the guys at the Harley shop because I got rid of my Harley for a Buell.....And the none riders said the same thing when I got my first Harley.

I like the Buell, It puts a big smile on my face and if what you ride does that for then you are good to go.




unless you ride a honda......hee hee.
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 05:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

public apology to JB2 for what i said in this post.

FB

(Message edited by jerry_haughton on May 21, 2007)
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Bomber
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

is this thread STILL going on?


hmmmm -- hey Ferous -- ya wanna go fer a ride? I'll swap bikes with ya for a bit!
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yes.

yes.

sure!

: )
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Brumbear
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a question about the "rub" thing it is now in to ride a big hog with ape hangers, but alot of the 1%ers also ride aped and/or ratted bikes does that make them rubs or the other guys and how do you tell at 70 mph they all seem to have colors now days. I tell you again I don't care a rider is a rider an ahole is an ahole everyone should enjoy the machine and the wind and stop the mindless chatter you will get bugs in your teeth anyway
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Oldog
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Only high-heeled women named Dominique should be wearing chaps)

Oh really??

I wear chaps, They are all I can afford, and they protect my leg from one bloody hot pipe in summer and the wind in the winter,

any real rider knows that,

I wore them to daytona and wished that I had had them on several occaisions while standing in backed up traffic,

BTW where is the stiletto healed beauty mebe she wants to ride with a fat balding ol dog in chaps too!

one of may favorite stories for posers was the 20 something chick that borrowed some chaps and attended bike week sporting her thong, bar / shield tee shirt spike heals and chaps, when asked did she enjoy riding the answer was "no" she liked the bad boy types that attended the event.

( posing as a badd girl??)

Its supper time y'all have a good one and Ride Hard.

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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

one of may favorite stories for posers was the 20 something chick that borrowed some chaps and attended bike week sporting her thong, bar / shield tee shirt spike heals and chaps, when asked did she enjoy riding the answer was "no" she liked the bad boy types that attended the event.


Could you post some pics please?????
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Unibear12r
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wolf, check out the very end of the Lake Isabella thread in the Tale Sec. for a pic of something close. That's from the run to D.C. last year so you might see them there this year.
Anybody interested in some great ride stories and pics should go back through that thread.

Lots of pent up emotion out there!
Kinda reminds me of a bunch of guys yelling at and beating on their monitors over how to pronounce tomato, who sells the best ones and what's the proper container for them!
Not that I'm any better as I've done my fair share of the same!

Bomber, it's just not fair, you are a couple thousand miles closer than I am!

Oh well, maybe I'll sit on the GF's porch after dinner tonite with a cee-gar and a Modelo or two and mull over what it takes/is to be a biker and watch the stars come out. On second thought maybe not!!

Besides I own and ride a KLR, a Suzy DR, a XB12R, a XB12X and a S3. And I'd love to have a custom "poser" Harley, an old Indian, maybe something with a sidecar and who knows what else tomorrow. I just can't afford them!
Oh, and I need a truck to haul bikes around too.

Hell, I don't even know what kind of biker I am. I don't see much point in labeling anybody else.
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Bomber
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Uni -- big ol' fatassed grin!
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 09:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Could you post some pics please?????



Unibear, i still say the gal on your left musta been allergic to you to have puffed up like that...

Wolf, there ya go, a REAL rider, one of the original UlyBoyz all the way from SoCal to DC and back for the Ride to the Wall, and not on some PU$$Y bike, either. : )

i've GOT to get some work done today (and also need to stop pissing off my friends), so i hope y'all don't mind if i butt out for a spell.

if ya see me on the road, and start flipping me crap 'cause ya think i'm a RUB and how YOU'RE the real deal, not me, well...

...well, i'm on edge and anxious, and no telling what i'd do. if you're lucky, i'd buy you a beer and simply consider the source. : )

Wolf, this time for real: back to you.

FB
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 09:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think I have a PIC of puffy some where in my photo album...... VERY NICE...

I will take that beer anytime...
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Tommy_black_shark
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tough to judge a book by it's cover. How do you know the guy in the brand new leathers isn't a million mile rider who needed a new jacket? Most folks couldn't tell by looking that my 5 year old has traveled to 28 states by motorcycle and has over 100K miles under his young butt. I bust stones with some friends who trailer their bikes to Daytona. Best excuse yet for towing is "You don't drink like we do Tom, by the end of the week we are in no condition to ride."
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Oldog
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 05:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Most folks couldn't tell by looking that my 5 year old has traveled to 28 states by motorcycle and has over 100K miles under his young butt.


Rider!
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Unibear12r
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ferris as to any "reaction" I'd say doubtful as I think it would take more than our 15 second exposure to break out in hives like that!
We were on different missions. Theirs was to display silicone and buttless chaps as far and wide as possible and I was heading for the pastrami stand. Actually I think they were promoting some raffle for a custom bike of some kind.


Here's my favorite pic from the Lake Isabella thread. Taken at Laguna on the Row.
BEBG at the Row

I think this one's far better looking and that smile just KILLS me!
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My gf sat on my bike while it was running, she bagan to blush and said..."buy this"
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 05:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"WHY DID YOU BUY A BIKE??!!"

Um, my name is Mike, and I like to ride my motorcycle. I have a bicycle, and I like to ride that too. Just give me two wheels and I'm good to go.

Hey Ferris, I rode over that state highway 20 a couple times this weekend (we took it as a short cut to I15 on your big ride). It gets funner every time, and the faster the better, wish I'd taken a moment to photograph what's left of the Spidey sticker on that road sign...

I've got pics of Zions N.P. I may post up, still haven't made the highway 12 loop yet though... (I have Thurs and Fri off so I might give it a try later this week).

Yet another thread I've attempted to hijack tonight!

-Mike
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Rich
Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 07:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gas was pushing a quarter per gallon, so I had to do something!
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ferris... I won't call you a RUB unless you ***re*** chrome that front rotor...

: )
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Ceejay
Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I bought a bike cause I believe in em. wish I could ride more, but my weeds aren't tall enough yet.

Buggles-I was out your way last week. You ever go out Tooele way. would be boring as a loop going through skull valley but that pass is great fun. We've been doing TT's with our rented mule, er mustang for the past three years. Didn't have time to ride though, as we worked through the weekends. Next time I'm out I'll get in touch.
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