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     Rocketsprink |
All I know is I left Friday early AM for racing and it was 3.26 per gal. Now it's 3.39 per gal. What a f'n load of shit. Rich get richer. Poor get poorer. | ||
| Ryker77 |
The GOVERNMENT is who profits the most. And they are the agency that sets MPG limits.... The Government state and Fed get a % of the price so the higher the price the higher the revenue. | ||
| Diablobrian |
the government gets approx 44 cents a gallon. and that hasn't changed in the last year or two the blinding speed of government won't allow it to change any faster than that, so they are not making a big impact on the per gallon price. scheduled maintenance at peak demand times in the summer taking refineries off line on an annual basis does have an impact though. Want to bet that it will happen again this year, and the next? It's funny that fuel in Las Vegas is cheaper than in LA/San Diego, even though it comes from the same refinery on the coast. Taxes were within pennies of each other last time I checked too, but the per gallon price was 10-15 cents a gallon cheaper... in Vegas! The logistics don't add up, it's gouging. If milk producers acted the way big oil does, announcing price increases to each other via "forecasts" of price increases and scheduling equipment repairs that really have minimal impact, but are publicised as a tragedy to improve the bottom line. The federal; government would be all over them for illegal business practices. However big oil has big money and therefore has Congress in it's pocket. I wonder why prices never go all the way back down after one of the frequent emergencies that cause the price hikes? Also, how can the executives be making record salaries and the companies be making record profits if we are in the middle of an oil crisis? Don't look at the man behind the curtain!  (Message edited by diablobrian on May 14, 2007) | ||
| Diablobrian |
BTW the Fuel tax is a set price per gallon that hasn't changed so the government is not getting more money like they would in a % based sales tax. I just realized what you meant Ryker77. | ||
| Midknyte |
I wonder why prices never go all the way back down after one of the frequent emergencies that cause the price hikes? cuz that's how they engineer in an overall price hike. Raise it, then let it eb back down half as much as it was raised and all the sheeple are happy to see it "come back down". I honestly don't expect to see gas prices drop back down below 2.75 & expect it to level out at 2.85 - 2.95 Congratulations. to somebody... (Message edited by midknyte on May 14, 2007) | ||
| Greenlantern |
IF we had the neuron powered flying cars that I was PROMISED by my 4th grade teacher back in 1975 would be here by the year 2000, then none of us would even be talking about this b.s..  | ||
| Bads1 |
Whats everyones gas prices right now?? This is a shot of my brothers new sign. Went independent a moth ago and they just finished up his logo and such.  | ||
| Swampy |
Yeah, what ever happened to the flying cars? Sheeple... Is that what happens when the farmer goes to the fence in the spring and the little sheep come up and go Daaaaa, Daaaaa  Kinda reminds me of the time I walked into my friends barn and he was standing in a wheel barrow going to town on a cow! I was so shocked and suprised the only thing I could think to say was "Is there anything I can do to help you?" He said, Yeah, wheel me to another one! | ||
| Diablobrian |
$3.09 here today. And Midnyte...That was intended to be a rhetorical question  | ||
| Teeps |
Paid 3.57 for premium on Sunday for Uly. Burned a gallon of it on an afternoon ride, just because I could. People scream and cry about the price of fuel now; wait til they can't get any. (Message edited by teeps on May 14, 2007) | ||
| Strokizator |
"BTW the Fuel tax is a set price per gallon that hasn't changed so the government is not getting more money like they would in a % based sales tax. I just realized what you meant Ryker77." That's true but it is also true that oil companies pay corporate income tax. So every time Exxon/Mobil shows billions in profits, the feds take up to 40%. The govt wants corps to make a lot of money so they can take a big chunk for themselves. On TV they pretend outrage but they'd rather one CEO make $40 million and pay 39% tax than for 4000 regular stiffs to make $10,000 and pay no tax. | ||
| Ryker77 |
"BTW the Fuel tax is a set price per gallon that hasn't changed so the government is not getting more money like they would in a % based sales tax. I just realized what you meant " Don't confuse Federal governments with state government tax rates. Each state has a different method and rate. Some states also charge sales tax on top of per / gallon tax. Many states also add in other tax to the fuel tax. Local option tax, service tax, privilage tax, inspection tax etc etc etc None the less the Government benifits from our use/abuse of gasoline and "could" use agency like the EPA to allow/control the fact that USA fleet MPG is near the same since 1970's. Which is why 12mpg Hummers get tax breaks. Oil companies are in the profit business. Without them - The gas prices would be the same - but in control of the government. Question of the day What are the top three countries that sell oil to the USA, make up over 80% of our total use imports? | ||
| Spiderman |
Canada, Mexico and Iraq | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
How quickly things change.......yesterday gas by me was 3.39, today 3.50. Why? a simple question. Why an .11 cent jump in one fricken day? The Shaw of Iran get a hang nail? | ||
| Rainman |
Kinda reminds me of the time I walked into my friends barn and he was standing in a wheel barrow going to town on a cow! }That must have taken him a long time to get to Lansing on a cow. Riding a horse is lot faster.  | ||
| Sparky |
Rode my bicycle to work the last 2 days. | ||
| Ryker77 |
Canada, Mexico and Iraq lol, Total petro imports : Canada, Mexico, and VENEZUELA. Iraq is slighlty more than the Virgin Islands. We get more oil from our border partners than All arab countries put together. http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_ publications/company_level_imports/current/import. html | ||
| Spiderman |
I thought it was Vene, just didn't feel like double checkin | ||
| Bads1 |
Venezuela is number 1 and Hugo is buying more and more.  | ||
| Midknyte |
I haven't bought Shell/Citgo since that debacle where the (lead?) levels were messing up peoples gas level sensors a few years ago... But then again, I never did in the first place (just considered myself lucky then) | ||
| Rd3501 |
I talked to 7 eleven last week and they told me they quit buying gas from Citgo. Just havent changed their signs yet.. Have their own company now after all the bashing from Chavez. Today el cheapo was 3.23 gallon...SLC | ||
| Cityxslicker |
I think we need another Boston Tea Party, with petrol of course... Lets admit that it is oil that we are overseas for, and just seize the damn fields, refineries, and pipelines. Let them have their civil war. Now where is my nuclear fusion DeLorean that is a flying scientific awe ? | ||
| Diablobrian |
But that's the point, the amount of oil we get from Iraq is a very small percentage of what we use, and not a viable or profitable reason for being there. The war is an excuse used by the oil companies for jacking up the prices. | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
the silence from our nation's leaders on this problem is deafening! In April oil was $7.00 a barrel cheaper than last April, but gas was .50 more a gallon on average...hmmmm...why's that? My Dodge Dakota 4x4 is going to be collecting a lot of dust this summer! | ||
| Ryker77 |
But that's the point, the amount of oil we get from Iraq is a very small percentage of what we use, and not a viable or profitable reason for being there. The war is an excuse used by the oil companies for jacking up the prices. Even though the oil doesn't flow to the US. Does NOT mean that an oil company is not selling it to other countries. That Haliburton is building drills, rigs, and pipes... The question comes into play - HOW MUCH FUEL is being used/consumed daily to have the "war" on Sadaam-wmds-bad muslims-changes daily. A up-armored Hummer must get less than 8mpg. CH53 burn 1200 gallons per hour. Jets burn 1-2k gallons per flight. Small bases run on diesel gen sets that burn over 100 gallons per day per generator. A small camp of 100 will use 1-2 gens and several light sets. | ||
| Stevem123 |
What I can't understand is why we don't just cut them all off and supply ourselves? Have you ever driven past one of the many oil fields we have right here in the go ol USA where roughly only a quarter of the well pumps are actually doing anything besides collecting rust??? Believe me that there's plenty of oil here but the damn oil companies pay less for importing it than they do to pump it themselves........ It's all about $$$$$$ | ||
| Naustin |
Personally, I hope the oil prices hit $4.00 plus per gallon. Even $5.00 per gallon would be fine by me. My house is less than a 5 minute walk from my office. I walk every day. When I need to run arrends, I ride my Buell. If I absolutly need to drive a car, I have a Ford Focus that gets 30+mpg. If I absolutly need my Pickup, which sits in the driveway most of the time, I live in a small town, and its only 2 miles to Home Depot. I could care less what gas prices are. I buy gas like once a month for my car and Truck, and while its more than it used to be for the Buell - its nothing compared to what most people pay. The higher the gas prices go, the more likely it is that we will impeech our goverment, lynch the oil company execuatives, and develope viable solar power systems for all our energy needs. Ethanol and Hydrogen are merely bridge alternatives and have just as many problems as Oil if you look at the long term big picture. | ||
| Diablobrian |
$3.19 today, down from $3.27 yesterday. maybe a response to public pressure? or just another on of our 2 steps upward, one step down maneuvers to be repeated again tomorrow? | ||
| Hughlysses |
We supposedly have the lowest gas prices nationwide right now (Charleston, SC) at somewhere around $2.95/gallon for regular. All I know is that as gas prices have been rising, diesel is holding steady at $2.70-$2.75/gallon locally and I am REALLY liking my recent Jetta TDI purchase. | ||
| Road_thing |
Here's some food for thought from today's Houston Chronicle. rt |
